Newbys and books

DeltaRed

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I know i.m an @$$hole when it comes to books.I appologise if I offend anyone.That is not my intention.But when a "newby" asks "how do I start my tractor;How/where do I check the oil?",etc.,I cringe.We all were "newbys" at one time.But I still say that the best,cheapest,and most important 'accessory'you can buy for your 'new'tractor is a book!They containlots of important information nassesary to the safe operation,proper maintaintenance and adjustment of your tractor.Even an experieced,multiple tractor owner like Me needs a book sometimes.I buy em-and read em!sorry for the rant.have a great day!
 
thats why their are asking, their computer can't pull out the dip stick and check oil, or text the engine to see if it running o-k. lol
 
Well do not feel bad. To me to get your drives license a person should be able to (male or female) check there oil tranny fluid if an auto, Radiator fluid , brake fluid and lights or no license. But now days it seem few people even know there cars have any fluids other then that liquid gold and that is way to high and could be lower if it was not for the greed of the gas company and there 10 years of record profits
 
I agree %100. I buy the book before I buy the equipment if possible. Gives some know-how when you're shopping/investigating. I realize this isn't always an option, say if you stumble across a good deal at an auction, but the manual should be on order as soon as you get home.

Ben
 
It may be that some of those newbys don't know what kind of books or manuals exist. Then there are some who would rather asked than spend the money for a manual or the time to look it up.
 
"When all else fails, read the directions!"
I suspect that most people who ask those kind of questions probably haven't been in this forum much, or they would know what kind of answer to expect when they ask questions regarding information usually found in the operator's manual. It baffles me that anyone would buy a tractor and not buy at least an operator's manual, but I suppose that many times, they don't know how to obtain the manual.
 
I had guy at my land that couldn't figure out how to hook up his brand new 2" gas water pump. He brought everything he needed except the manual. He said he wasn't very mechanical. I had to tell him how to hook everything up and he was upset because the pump didn't say on it which was suction and which was discharge. The supplied hose clamps wouldn't fit over the suction hose so he asked why it had to be so thick. The pump is almost identical to mine and he's used it before. I told him how to hook it up and then said to put some water in it and try it out. He said he already tried it out to make sure it would start. I told him he might have burned the seal in the pump. Then he said he knew it's supposed to have water in it but only ran it for 2 minutes. I felt like saying step away from the pump, far away. I would have never imagined a pump would be so complex. The guy is in his 50's and used to be a sales manager making 70K.
 
There are big red books with titles such as “Webster’s Dictionary”. One of them might help with the assembly of your rants. One of the bookless newbies could probably advise you on the use of spelling and grammar tools, but they might just rant about you asking.


i.m = I’m
appologise = apologize
newby = newbie
nassesary = necessary
maintaintenance = maintenance
experieced = experienced
 
Not everybody has spell check on their computer and I for one know that since getting out of school things seem harder to remember the spelling. And you knew what he was saying. Rick
 
I've gotta agree with you Red. I don't mind giving torque specs or point settings to a jobber who is just fixing a customer's tractor - a guy can't own EVERY book out there. But when you buy a tractor the first tool you need for it is a manual - both an operator's manual and a repair manual.
For me it goes back to the days when I was still messing with Volkswagons. A fellow named John Muir wrote a manual for it - "How to keep your VW alive - a guide for the complete idiot."
One of the things he said was to take the manual and read it - cover to cover - like a novel. That advice has stuck with me ever since and served me well. So I too admonish others to get the darned manual already and read it.
As for your spelling and punctuation, yeah I see a lot of bad writing on here. But as long as I can understand you I'm not bothered by it. What does bother me is some fellow who thinks he has something to say but is too cowardly to use his own handle. Given the choice I'll take bad writing over cowardice any day.
 
What is sad is that Onstar in Chevy vehicles can do that! Tell you when your oil is low, tires are low, engine and transmission need checked, etc.
 
It's all part of the"dumbing down of America"-and of to many engineers needing something to do.
 
I'm a Farmer,welder,parttime mechanic-not a typist.I never took any typing classes or learned to type till my son gave me this computer a year ago.I graduated high school over 30 yaers ago.I type like a chicken-peck peck-only lots faster than a year ago.sorry if my poor typing skills and bad grammar offend you.Steve
 
I am lucky that I am a fairly good speller.
Having said that, I had a man working for me years ago who was one of the best mechanics I ever saw.
I used to smile (not smurk) when he would send me a list of parts he needed for a job.
A couple of words: peddle for pedal and mudd for mud as in flaps.
I also had a brother with dyslexia who just barely made it thru 8th grade but helped me figure things out when I would get stuck on a project. He had a way of seeing directly into the matter. Another great mechanic.
You will never see me berate anyone for their spelling!!
 
(quoted from post at 06:22:18 04/10/11) then again some folks just love to be spelling nazi's and grammer police . Makes em feel good .

How many of the spelling nerds can read this???? Bet not many....

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One of my Dad's favorite sayings was "You can't build yourself up by tearing someone else down." I've always tried to live by that- so I never comment on spelling shortcomings. I'm a much better speller than mechanic, and the last thing I want to do is offend someone and lose his knowledge from the board.

But I guess it wouldn't break my heart if the spelling critics found someplace else to focus their attentions. . .
 
Do you use the one finger typing method or are you up to the two finger level. I am still on one finger method. But when I really get going I can hit two fingers.

When I was doing start ups on new gensets. I would always check the trash cans around the job site. Found most of the manuals in the trash.
 
I was not slamming on your spelling, I was just pointing out the irony of your rant on newbies who ask questions about things out of their comfort zone. Nobody does everything perfectly. Your rant was about people who ask about things when they could buy the book first. Maybe they don't know how to find the right book before they ask. To quote you "I'm a Farmer,welder,parttime mechanic-not a typist.I never took any typing classes or learned to type till my son gave me this computer a year ago." all I did was suggest a manual for things you don't know.
 
Having the common sense to get the blamed thing OFF the road and into a SAFE spot should come first! I don't want my daughter changing a tire EVER! With the "SICKO,S" out there today , it ain't a smart move.
 

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