Clutch??

Anonymous-0 · Mar 30, 2011

Hey folks,
Gonna have my tractor split to replace the rear main seal. Clutch works fine but it's one of them sensious situations (since you was in there). New clutch kit costs a fortune but a disc is reasonable. Guy doing the job says that I still have plenty of adjustment on the existing clutch. Does it make sense to replace just the disc or just put it back together and go?

Thanks, Dave

Anonymous-0 · Mar 30, 2011

well since the rear main seal was leaking I would replace the disc,throw out bearing and clean, check out the flywheel, press. plate, pilot bearing.

Sid · Mar 30, 2011

Money is too tight(for me) to do it just because it is a good time to do it. In my opinion if the disc is bad clutch isn't too far behind. If disc is good I would put it back together.

MarkB_MI · Mar 30, 2011

I guess I don't understand what you would gain by replacing the disk if there's plenty of wear left. A proper clutch job means replacing the pressure plate and resurfacing the flywheel. If you don't do the whole job you probably won't be extending the life of your clutch that much.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 30, 2011

(quoted from post at 02:20:44 03/30/11) Money is too tight(for me) .

Someone cut your tree down too huh????? I just came back from having two new rear tires put on so all I have is a hole where the stump used to be......The main just started leaking a few weeks ago (all seems tied in with the oil level thing from the leaking hydraulic pump) Will just play it by ear then, dealer has the parts on hand 6 miles away so no biggy then.

Thanks, Dave

rustred · Mar 30, 2011

this is something that wont be known till it is taken apart an given a visual inspection. cant predict whats in there or the wear if it has not given you any problems.may get off lucky and may not.

greygoat · Mar 30, 2011

If you don"t have the time,(or money)to do it
right---when will you have the time to do it
over? When the tractor is split, is the time
to do it!

jdtractor · Mar 30, 2011

i would find the extra money and replace it all ,it mite seem ok to want to wait but you cant get all the oil cleaned out etc. and it mite be more $$$$$$$ next time aruond. ive seen it happen before in my brothers repair shop, hes done several pieces of equipment, industrial, farm, and trks big or small. just a thought

RodinNS · Mar 30, 2011

You know.... we have an expression around here... about tripping over dollars to save dimes.
I hope that"s not what you"re getting into...

I guess if the PP was simply wet with oil and it did not otherwise look poor... that means that it"s wear surface is flat as glass and the fingers are in good shape... then I"d probably just clean it up with brake cleaner and install a new disc. If it does show wear I"d change it. Aftermarket if necessary.
I"d also change the transmission input shaft seals...
I think mention was made about the rear main when you did the engine work a year ago...

None of those seals are big dollar items relative to nominal labor rates involved... so think about the dollars and dimes.

Rod

LOU from WI · Mar 30, 2011

Dave, Just my (old wives tale opinion)But RUSTED NUTS IS RIGHT ON WITH HIS ANALYSIS and so is a couple of others. If the pressure plate,isn't warped. scored, and age distorted, it would be a good bet to just do the clutch plate, throwout bearing, pilot shaft bearing, Did you find the jerk that pulled your money tree out by the roots? Just do what is necessary and affordable at this time to get the tractor working .It's also a good bet that if the parts are badly worn. try and come up with the funds to completely go through the clutch system including front Trans seal. It's always easy to spend other peoples money, but a man has to do what a man has to do. Best of luck Regards LOU.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 30, 2011

(quoted from post at 07:21:18 03/30/11) I think mention was made about the rear main when you did the engine work a year ago...

Rod

I mentioned it.....but he didn't do it. We had a nice heart to heart about it.
There won't be any labor charge to speak of this time and a sat down with him while we ordered the parts.
He didn't intentionally do anything wrong, it's a mentality of fixing what's broke when it's broke. He couldn't see splitting the tractor when the seal wasn't leaking. He'll make it all right now though. We'll play the clutch by ear but the trans input seal will be changed also.

Thanks, Dave

RodinNS · Mar 30, 2011

Good that he"s looking after the labor. Education, as they say, has a cost. Some go to school. Some learn in the school of hard knocks...
Hopefully being burned once is enough for him. Was for me...

Rod

Owen Aaland · Mar 31, 2011

How much of the clutch you should replace depends on what type of clutch you have. If it has a woven type lining that is oil contaminated you will need to replace at least the disk. When that type of lining gets oil soaked it is not possible to get it all out and reusing it will most likely lead to a jumpy clutch. If it has a ceramic/metallic type lining or pads it should be possible to flush the oil out of it and be reusable. The pressure plate when used with a woven lining should be reusable unless there is obvious damage. A pressure plate used with a ceramic/metallic lining most likely will be worn enough that the flywheel and cast plate will need to be resurfaced.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 31, 2011

Just came from the local dealer and getting new rear tires. Got the tires yesterday but one was flat this morning and had to get it fixed. They had no complete kit on hand. Parts guy took me to the shop boss who said if everything is working fine now and I hear no noise that would give away a throwout bearing along with the fact that I still have almost the complete adjustment room to just replace the disc if it was thin or soaked but said that they could get hard over time and suggested replacing it anyway. Back to the parts counter and a disc was on hand for a real acceptable price. Told me to take it and either bring it back or pay for it when the tractor is finished. I's a happy camper now.....If I could just figure out how to keep from getting poop on my new tires :roll:

Dave

bc · Mar 31, 2011

Hello Owen. Guess I haven't changed a clutch for a bunch of years. When did they go to a ceramic/metallic clutch? Would that be about the same time they did the brakes because of the asbestos?

The last clutch I've dealt with was woven pad and I'd think any old tractor would have those unless there was a recent replacement.

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