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buickanddeere
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Once you use a hydraulic powered post hole digger on a loader bucket. You will wonder why you bothered with a three point hitch unit. If in gravel, rocks, dry hard clay etc.
If in sandy soil or other easy digging soil. 3 pt hitch will do fine.
If in sandy soil or other easy digging soil. 3 pt hitch will do fine.
It'll probably be fine, so long as you "baby" it, and don't have many rocks. If you have rocky soil, don't even bother- you'll be "fixin" all the time. Don't run it at anywhere near "combat" speed- it will dig fine at a lower speed, and bad things don't happen as fast. It will be a little more of a hassle with a Jubilee, because you will have to take tractor out of gear for every hole. But a zillion holes have been dug by those old Fords!
Dan in North Houston
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Bought one last year and it's done fine. We have clay with some sand, so it's not too hard digging. Since I only need one occasionally, it seems fine for what I need.
buickanddeere
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When was the last time the cheapest cost the least?
Tom in TN
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George,
I have a TSC post hole digger that my son bought for me three or four years ago. I use it on my Ford 2000. It only has a six inch auger on it. When I use it, I dig the hole and expand the diameter of the hole with a hand post-haul digger.
It works well in the spring when the ground is still slightly damp, but it doesn't work at all well in the summer when the ground is hard and dry. My Ford 2000 does not have down pressure on the three point hitch so that's the real problem with hard dirt. If I had someone working with me to assist with down pressure, I'm sure that it would work better, but I don't.
I'm glad to have it, but can only use it in the spring and early summer.
Tom in TN
I have a TSC post hole digger that my son bought for me three or four years ago. I use it on my Ford 2000. It only has a six inch auger on it. When I use it, I dig the hole and expand the diameter of the hole with a hand post-haul digger.
It works well in the spring when the ground is still slightly damp, but it doesn't work at all well in the summer when the ground is hard and dry. My Ford 2000 does not have down pressure on the three point hitch so that's the real problem with hard dirt. If I had someone working with me to assist with down pressure, I'm sure that it would work better, but I don't.
I'm glad to have it, but can only use it in the spring and early summer.
Tom in TN
Look at the point on thatTSC digger and then look at the point on a Bush Hog digger. Compare the price to replace the point on each one. The B H has forged replaceable cutting tips and a forged statring tip. Probably the TSC one has a one piece welded steel tip which costs more to replace and is not as strong.
KEH
Anonymous-0
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3 words, Roy, Big Pipe Wrench! If all you have got to play with is an old dorf, a gear driven 3 pointer will still drill a lotta holes! It takes experience working with lousy equipment, to really appreciate modern convenient equipment! That being said, I add this caveat: That experience is best acquired in one's youth, when healing is faster!
This tip wouldn't work for doing a whole fence in the summer, but in a pinch, dig as far as it will go in the topsoil (will usually go 6 inches or so, in our clay, no matter how dry)- then pour a bucket of water in the hole, and let it sit over night- it'll drill another few inches from being moistened. Repeat every day until you have it as deep as you need.
i bought a new 9" auger from TSC couple years ago and it has a forged tip and replaceable cutting edges on the flighting...i'd looked at bush hog and a few others...only real difference i saw was the price...i've dug a few thousand holes with it so far and touched up the cutting edges twice after drilling in a stretch of gravel.
neighbor has the complete TSC digger...he aint tore his up in 11 years and i swear he could break a anvil without trying.
neighbor has the complete TSC digger...he aint tore his up in 11 years and i swear he could break a anvil without trying.
Anonymous-0
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I have an auger from TSC, haven't used it but once in last 3 or so years, sits in the barn but I do have it in case its needed. I like mine and I beleive the quality of it is real good, it was new when I bought it from a guy that had a 9N that it was too heavy for, he never used it at all. Paid him $300 for it and it came with a 6" bit.
i dont know what brand tsc sells, but i bought one from farm and fleet may be the same, for about that price, i use it on a jubilee and have drilled over 17oo holes with it, works fine no problems other than i welded a couple of teeth on the ends of the flutes when i got tired of it just polishing the ground when i was in hard clay
IOWA NORTHEAST
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Tom, If you take a chunk of steel, and bolt it to your auger about eight inches up, it will tear the soil to any width hole you need. Do not do this near the bottom, because your auger will drift out of the hole in looser soils.
We use a eight inch bit in a hand held, and we have hard clay soil in some spots. Any auger will dig if you sharpen the bit / cutting edge. I show some guys, the hand held will dig through a 7 x 9 oak RR tie if you give it lots of time.
If their is ANY flat surface on the bottom of your cutting edge, it will not dig. Always sharpen from the top side, and if it is dry, make it real sharp.
If you can take a butcher knife and cut the soil, a heavy post hole digger should never stop unless their is rocks, or frozen soil.
I have fixed alot of post hole diggers for farmers because they did not dig in hard dry soil. Many have sat for years in the corner of the machine shed, and can be purchased real cheap if you want to be dishonest.
One young man did not sharpen it, he rode it with a jacket on, while dad drove the tractor. Yea, you guessed it, he still has his left arm, but it is for looks only, and usualy it is under a long armed shirt.
If anyone ever gets caught with a dull blade, and only a few holes left, and you must apply down pressure........Stick a long crow bar, or shaft in the top, and lean on it way back away from the machine.
We use a eight inch bit in a hand held, and we have hard clay soil in some spots. Any auger will dig if you sharpen the bit / cutting edge. I show some guys, the hand held will dig through a 7 x 9 oak RR tie if you give it lots of time.
If their is ANY flat surface on the bottom of your cutting edge, it will not dig. Always sharpen from the top side, and if it is dry, make it real sharp.
If you can take a butcher knife and cut the soil, a heavy post hole digger should never stop unless their is rocks, or frozen soil.
I have fixed alot of post hole diggers for farmers because they did not dig in hard dry soil. Many have sat for years in the corner of the machine shed, and can be purchased real cheap if you want to be dishonest.
One young man did not sharpen it, he rode it with a jacket on, while dad drove the tractor. Yea, you guessed it, he still has his left arm, but it is for looks only, and usualy it is under a long armed shirt.
If anyone ever gets caught with a dull blade, and only a few holes left, and you must apply down pressure........Stick a long crow bar, or shaft in the top, and lean on it way back away from the machine.
jay-eye-see
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Last fall I had 20 some holes to dig in clay with no rocks and had no interest in doing it by hand OR spending a whole lot of money. I bought this old Ford off craigslist for $250, then ran to the nearest Ford/New Holland dealer for $55 dollars worth of new cutters that they had to order. Then I mounted the whole mess on the back of a VAC Case with no down pressure and no live PTO and dug my holes in an afternoon. Maybe some folks would not care to be anywhere near it while in operation (B&D?) however it worked for me.
It did so well with the engine at idle that I had to let it in slow so as not to let it screw itself into the ground.
It did so well with the engine at idle that I had to let it in slow so as not to let it screw itself into the ground.
buickanddeere
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If that makes me a criminal or nasty person because I like the idea of people going home intact to their families. So be it.
A length of 4" plastic drain tile on the pto is cheap and goes a long way to prevent tearing a bystander into bloody scraps.
A post hole auger one of those inheritly hazardous machines.
A hydraulic unit on a loader bucket takes the human out of the equation.
page 125
http://www.farmfleet.com/2011.pdf
A length of 4" plastic drain tile on the pto is cheap and goes a long way to prevent tearing a bystander into bloody scraps.
A post hole auger one of those inheritly hazardous machines.
A hydraulic unit on a loader bucket takes the human out of the equation.
page 125
http://www.farmfleet.com/2011.pdf
Brad Buchnan
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Fabricated this little guy in the shop out of 3' x 1/4 square. Not osha approved but works kinda slick.
Brad
Brad
Brad Buchanan
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Lots of money!!!
They will certify a bowl of corn flakes if properly funded!
They will certify a bowl of corn flakes if properly funded!
Twelve inch. Twisted the output shaft on the last one. Broken gear in the first one. George - these were NOT TSC diggers, but comparable quality, made for smaller tractors. I used them on a 630 JD, barely above an idle.
You may have real good service with one on your Jubilee.
I'm eyeing the gearbox on an old IH hay conditioner for a replacement.
Paul
You may have real good service with one on your Jubilee.
I'm eyeing the gearbox on an old IH hay conditioner for a replacement.
Paul
Brad Buchnan
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Thanks, Paul. I actually got the gearbox from surplus center. It is actually quite a bit heavier than I needed..input rated 70hp. But for just under $200.00 I used it for this application.
Strangely enough I find myself using the boom by itself on a regular basis.
Brad
Strangely enough I find myself using the boom by itself on a regular basis.
Brad
Tx Jim
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Paul
If you had the correct grade shear bolt why did it not shear before drive line or output shaft became twisted?
Anonymous-0
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I'm not familiar with the TSC stuff... but i've used the older Daunser's. I've also used the hydraulics drives on a skid steer. I'll never use a PTO drive ever again...
My FEL is also converted to skid steer universal attachment system... so I can use it on the tractor as well. Makes life so much easier when you can apply a bit of pressure and hold the darn thing plumb...
I guess if you had no other option then the TSC thing would work but I'd think it far less than ideal. Personally I'd rent a skid steer and auger if I needed to dig a bunch of holes. As it is I rent the auger when I need it.
Rod
My FEL is also converted to skid steer universal attachment system... so I can use it on the tractor as well. Makes life so much easier when you can apply a bit of pressure and hold the darn thing plumb...
I guess if you had no other option then the TSC thing would work but I'd think it far less than ideal. Personally I'd rent a skid steer and auger if I needed to dig a bunch of holes. As it is I rent the auger when I need it.
Rod
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