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Tony Vidlak Sr.

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I just got home from work. Sat down to watch the news and I can't beleive my ears. Gas prices could be at $5.00 a gallon by summer.The reason Fear!!!!!primarily the unrest in Libya and the Middle East. Fear! Where is the United States headed. Now I'm afraid.
 
Relax. That's the news media's job. Get you to panic so you'll tune in to the next newscast.
Some analysts I heard today said they think Ghadafi will be gone by the end of the weekend. Oil hit $100 for a few minutes today,but there wasn't enough panic to hold it there.
The same fund managers who are driving it up sold off and took profits in the grain markets yesterday and drove them limit down. They've come back some today. If traders can take one market down that quick,the same traders can take the oil market down too as soon as they're ready.
It's just a wait and see game. As soon as this is all digested and they see how much oil is on hand right now,they'll settle down. There's no shortage.

You can come in off the ledge now.
 
I paid $4.16 per gallon for kerosene this past Saturday in Bristol, IN.

I was out of town a couple of weeks ago when that blizzard hit the midwest and picked up a two gallon jug from Menards for a heater with me to be safe, $14.95 for two gallons. But, was a blizzard and I kept my mouth shut.

Mark
 
Theres a shortage when you have 200 bucks in your wallet and 200 gallons of oil cost 600 bucks.We are on the ledge now.
 
Those fricken Arabs want freedom....Can you blame them. But.....oops....Not religious freedom for Christians. Freedom is only for nnalert but not Christians? Huh?
Lots of Christians were persecuted in the Egypt uprising I read.
They got to keep that oil flowing for the USA.
 
Yea,I'm reminded of that every time the fuel man drives in,but I'm not up for a panic just because the talking heads on the local news are using the same EXPERTS who were SURE we'd see $200 a barrel oil in 2008. Didn't take long to come down to $39 did it?
The traders who are driving it up have money in a whole lot more than oil and they know the world economy is too weak to take much of this. They lost their backsides in the last crash and aren't about to do THAT again. They know too,that commodities don't have to go UP to make money trading them. Those guys are the EXPERTS that I want to listen to,and I don't see any of them getting too worked up.
When I see Gary Wilhelmi break a sweat,I'll start to worry.
 
I'm no expert on this, but you'd think the price of gas/diesel would be somewhat proportional to the price of oil. Oil hit $100/barrel 2 or 3 years ago (I think it was November) and I'm thinking gas never went over $3. What's different now?
 
Freedom that we planted the seed for,rememeber? Seems our chickens have come home to roost. Our seeds have taken root. However you want to put it.
It's called the laws of unintended consequences.
 
Oh Shoot,oil topped at $147 in October 2008. Gas was well up in the mid $4s and diesel was pushing 5.
Best way to figure it,gas goes up or down about 3 cents for every one dollar change on the price of oil.
 
Sorry Tony I don't agree with you. My opinion prices are going up becauae of GREED and we to gas buying public are accepting it. Are we afraid or are we unwilling to throw the bums out?
This country needs to establish some controls on the cost of energy--call it whatever you wish but establish a ruling board that sets the prices for every form of energy. It cannot be controlled by the administration or the industry representatives.
 
I agree completely with you. I was just reporting to the forum what was being said on the news.Fear is the reason B.S.its greed like you say.
 
Yea but we didn't have the inflation factor back then. I betting we can say good by to the 2.xx and hello to 3.xx going forward.

And I would not be suprised if it was 4.xx by the end of the year. (not spikes, on a regular bases)
 
Oil hit $147 in May 2008....Gas was right at $4.00 and I paid as much as $4.60 for diesel....By Nov of 2008 oil had fallen to $34 and gas was $1.35.
 
It went up to $3.12 a gallon here yesterday and they say it will continue to rise until things settle down overseas.

I think it is just another tactic to raise the price again. The US need to tell the environmentalist to get over it, we are drilling and that's that. Don't like you can leave our exits are not blocked. Time to stop playing games in this country.
 
$2.999 here as of yesterday and will probably be more in a day or too. The problem is not all this unrest but the greed of the oil company. They have for the past 10 plus years had record profits so face it they are screwing us left right and side ways and unless the gov. steps in and say hey this if not right we will keep getting screwed and there is no real reason other then greed
 
Get used to it, as long as jug ears is President.
No drilling, no coal, no nuke plants. Just put a
sail on your tractor. China is locking up all the
oil while we sit on a sinking ship with Captain O
 
If you want to know where your money is going, look at the balance sheets at the end of FY10/11. Heard a rumour these uprisings were orchestrated by BP. !!
 
Saudis are talking about raising production so the market will stabilize. Wait till the revolt hits there.
 
How much higher can diesel go before truck drivers can't make a living and park their trucks?? THEN this country will be in a pickle and MAYBE the ones in control of fuel prices will wake up. Remember that fuel is distributed by trucks also.
 
Right here is stinking Washington state, I paid 3.45 a gallon just this morning. Quick Fact: Washington state has the highest gas tax in the country.
 
3.30+ here in NY. God i hope the day never comes when truckers have to park because they cant afford to drive. That will be the day we are screw#d
 
(quoted from post at 19:33:31 02/23/11) $2.999 here as of yesterday and will probably be more in a day or too. The problem is not all this unrest but the greed of the oil company. They have for the past 10 plus years had record profits so face it they are screwing us left right and side ways and unless the gov. steps in and say hey this if not right we will keep getting screwed and there is no real reason other then greed
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My friend, the GOV is the problem. As long as they continue to print "unbacked" money, and the value of our US dollar continues to lose value you can expect the cost of a barrel of oil, as well as a gallon of gasoline to go sky high! We still enjoy some of the best gas prices in the world, but YOUR government wants to be more diverse, and like Europe,...which is a land in real turmoil, and failure of early stages of the New World Order.
 
Everything else is going up too if you are paying for it in US Dollars as the Dollar is loosing value.On the other hand If you are buying with Gold and Silver the price of gas has gone down in the last 12 months.
 
Its called forced dependency, it will never end as long as the we continue to allow ourselves to be at the mercy of every nut case dictator in the unstable regions of the world. The sad fact is the USA could easily and quickly increase production of oil and gas enough to completely eliminate the middle eastern and south american percentage of our imports, in 5 years the country could be self sufficient if the Political will to do so was there. There are two major lies which are repeated over and over by the Government and the news media, 1st, that it takes years to increase production and 2nd, that we don"t have the resources.
 
The only thing that matters in the end is what we have to pay for fuel.100 gallons is the minimum order for delivery here.That means you need 340 bucks on hand.We have one dealer who will deliver small amounts on his regular delivery day here.I see many people filling 5 gallon cans with off road diesel ,I know they dont have a diesel tractor.
 
I keep 5 gallons of kerosene on hand for lamps, furnace fuel in case I run out plus I have a kerosene heater that would keep the cellar from freezing up.Used to keep a 50 gallon drum before the price went nuts.Last fall kerosene was 2.89 now 3.89.Those with outside tanks have to use kerosene or a blended fuel to avoid jelling in the cold.The way things are going you may want to find a new barrel and start building a reserve.Dealers are not supposed to fill 50 gallon barrels here but you can always bring home 5 gallons at a time.I have a general store close by that sells kerosene.There are 2 other stores that sell kerosene in town.
 
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"

Not saying that the current situation isn't alarming, it is, but it's those futures traders that drive up oil prices unnecessarily. Unaturally.

Where's the law of supply and demand? Supply hasn't gone down. Demand (real demand - as in we need a lot more oil for some reason) hasn't gone up, so why the higher prices? Futures traders.

There is no oil supply crisis. Let me repeat that: There is no oil supply crisis. But Big Oil would like you to think there is.

Heard on the radio that Lybia accounts for 2% of the world's oil supply. Just 2%. Not enough to change anything.

Oil companies feed the fires of fear, and futures traders eat it up. It's total crap.

On the other hand, here in Western PA, when oil prices go up, local leasers start drilling new wells, and the local economy booms. Not economically feasable until oil gets well over $100 per barrel.
 
Here in east Texas farm fuel just went to 3.00 gal. When you just have SS for income and have to pay 2.99 for propane and 3.00 for diesel it sure don"t leave much to buy groceries. I"m selling my crawler and my Ford powerstroke and buying an older gas something just to save a little. At 70 years old,I never dreamed these golden years would trurn into "lead" years. I quit trucking when diesel got to 1.50 and sure don"t understand how truckers can operate at these prices plus all the other expence of operations. I too, remember gas at .09 and the gas wars of the late 40"s and 50"s. Sure miss those days. Just a thought.... The world operates on trucking, everything is on a truck at some point in time, if truckers would just stick together for as littl as 2 days and not move, I promise things would change very quick. But that"s just a dream that will never happen.
Rant over!!!
God bless you all,I love this board.

Fred
 

[b:caecc15ce9]The world operates on trucking, everything is on a truck at some point in time, if truckers would just stick together for as littl as 2 days and not move, I promise things would change very quick [/b:caecc15ce9]
Didn't they do that in the early 70's
 
Actually 2% can change things and of course its just not Libya the market is worried about.How economics works if there is a demand for 10 Widgets and there are constantly 11 available then
prices will be cheap but if only 9 are available then prices will go up until one of the widget buyers gets priced out of the market.Same with oil and everything else.We need to drill more and increase supply or consume less either one would drive prices down.
If the President were to come out and announce that the Gov't was opening up any and all Federal lands in the US to oil and gas drilling that would also drop the price but as it is now much land has been taken out of any drilling the last couple years.And that puts upward pressure on the price of oil.Those that think there is an over abundance of oil worldwide are kidding themselves China will buy all the oil available below certain prices so its not going very low anyway.Regardless of what anyone thinks is the cause everyone better be getting ready for $5/gal
gasoline in the not too distant future
 
Yea we did go on strike twice back in the 70's and where did it get us , no place . The only thing to come out of them was the loss of the independent and the swing to the big companys . The deregulation only brought on more regulation and more gov. involvement . And what is left of the independent truckers would not make for a good circle jerk . Then there is the fact that you could not and never get even two to agree on one thing and stick to it . Just like farmers as they really hold all the aces in the deck because everybody has to eat and when setting at the table what is on that table that people consume that did not come from a farm ?????? Just a glass of water . There are three things that will get everyone attention Shut off the beer supply and the gas and the food.
 
This is exactly what the libs and the piece of cr@p in the whi#ehouse want. their mantra is never let a good crisis go to waste. the unrest in mideast, the chaos in Wis. are all a golden opportunity for a new world order and an end to capitalism. The word of the day is "caliphate". Look it up. The muzzy's will soon rule the world and the socialist nnalert/unions/communists are all in support of each other. They are already talking about a UN controlled mideast. All while DC lets WIs. fall into chaos and the mamby nnalert hide out in ILL. they should be brought back to Wis. and arrested. It cracks me up, the nnalert don't want the nnalert to "cause the fed gov't to shut down" but do the exact same thing by union unrest. I don't know about you but I can't protest anything. I have to go to work every day to support the bloated gov't!!
 
my mistake, I was thinking it topped out just over $100. I do remember some of the news teasers...

"Will oil hit $100/barrel for the first time?" Tune in at 6pm to find out.

And there was the clip where they ran about "the first guy to pay $100/barrel"
 
Just look on Craig's list as there are lots of good trucks priced so low wright now that you can buy a nice older semi tractor for less then a junk pick up . Plus the fact that there are no where near the owner operators left like back in the 70's Where i live we were knowen as the owner operator capitol of the world and that was in Ripley's book . Back then we had the coal haulers the steel haulers the refer haulers and freight hauler and steel haulers . Everywhere ya looked there were trucks trucks and more trucks . Ya did not have a problem finding a job either working for someone or a nother company . People were even calling you at home to see if you wanted to change and come to work for them . Just about every town had a truck dealer in it that was of any size over 15000 . If you wanted to buy a new tractor today all you had to do was decide what color and drive line and make and go sign the papers leave there and decide what make trailer ya wanted and drive no more then fifty miles and pick one out . By that time your new tractor was ready to roll with a new fifth wheel on it and plate waiting for you with atleast a half tank of fuel and you could drive up to get your new trailer and like with me have a new wet line and half fenders installed where ya bought the new trailer from and be ready for work the next morning . . The work was there and so much of it that that new truck was not fast enough and that new trailer was not big enough to haul it all . There was no problem finding a load it was just a phone call away and a couple mile dead head . Then came Dec of 1979 when it all came to and end .and i do mean end . Fuel prices went way up the mills shut down EPA shut down the strip mines then NEW big trucking companys came into play as cut rates and cut deals on everything , tires fuel trucks trailers the little guy was done for . Just look at how the system works, Don;t matter if your a farmer or a owner operator . Lets say you farm 150 acres your going to plant say 50 acres of corn , ya need 35 acres min. to feed your live stock on and avg. year ya need 19 bags of seed corn to plant it and ten ton of fertilizer but yoiur neighbor is a big boy and he is going t need say ten times as much as you do you have to pay X amount per bag and per ton but he buys more and his cost per acer is a whole bunch less . he gets a deal on everything he buys 20000 gallon of fuel and you buy 2000. I'll bet he is buying fuel for a lot less . A lot of difference same with trucking you go buy ONE truck set up the way you want it , the trucking company goes to the mfg. not the dealer and buys 500 all the same with no frills they pay half of what you did . they set up deals with fuel suppliers and buy fuel for a whole bunch less all across the country while you buy station to station . stop and think just how much CASH you would have to carry to just be out on the road for one week . As CASH price fuel is one price and credit fuel is HIGHER . And 300 gallon will not run you a full week of running .
 
thats been said for years during times with low crop prices,"if everyone just sits on their grain the price will go up" well you hit the nail on the head one farmer will say thats a good idea and then take the back route to the elevator so his neighbor doesnt see him. If 100 farmers were all sitting on their grain assuming that the others werent selling, 25 of them would sell as soon as the price rose a dime. Its also extremely hard to stop your job and take that chance, the USA isnt egypt or libya where we can decide hey lets go overthrow the govt because the only other thing we had to do today was sit in a robe and dodge bullets. Desperate measures come along alot easier when you literally have nothing to lose and probably for them nothing to gain.
 
Nothing to worry about. I was reading just yesterday, About how TimmyGeighter (TreasSec) was talking about how because the economy is stronger now, $4.00Gal gas will be no problem.
I was reading just this morning, About a RedChinese oil facility being attacked in Libya. I'm sure they won't get upset or anything about that. The Germans have warships headed on down to Libya. The europeans are affected alot more by the Libyian problem than we are. Theres a gas pipeline that runs under the Med. Seems the supply through that line is being interrupted.
Cr@p is hitting the fan now. But we don't have anything to worry about, Because we are well on the way to economic recovery..... Right.
Jack
 
Since when does ''big oil'' want people to believe their is an oil shortage? Large and small oil companies spend the vast majority of their advertising dollars to convince the American public to pressure the federal government into allowing them to drill and produce known reserves within the USA.
 
I think this country has an enormus amount of oil still in the ground. There may be a day that we drill for our own oil because foreign supply will be decreased or gone.
If you had 5 acres of large timber and needed firewood, would you cut yours when you have a source of firewood from someone else. Save yours for an emergency or for inavability.
Politicians make millions from oil and that's just part of the system.
I think about oil supply like---Why is the vast majority of oil in other countries?--It's not, we just don't use much of ours.
 
Got this in an email today
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About 6 months ago, the writer was watching a news program on oil and one of the Forbes Bros. was the guest. The host said to Forbes, "I am going to ask you a direct question and I would like a direct answer; how much oil does the U.S. have in the ground?" Forbes did not miss a beat, he said, "more than all the Middle East put together." Please read below.

The U. S. Geological Service issued a report in April 2008 that only scientists and oil men knew was coming, but man was it big. It was a revised report (hadn't been updated since 1995) on how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota, western South Dakota, and extreme eastern Montana ..... check THIS out:

The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay , and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable... at $107 a barrel, we're looking at a resource base worth more than $5...3 trillion.

"When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea.." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.

"This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years," reportsThe Pittsburgh Post Gazette. It's a formation known as the Williston Basin , but is more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.' It stretches from Northern Montana , through North Dakota and into Canada . For years, U. S. oil exploration has been considered a dead end. Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago. However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive reserves..... and we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is light, sweet oil, those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL!




That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight. And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this next one should - because it's from 2006!


U.. S. Oil Discovery- Largest Reserve in the World


Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006


Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this motherload of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?


They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.. Here are the official estimates:

- 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia


- 18-times as much oil as Iraq
- 21-times as much oil as Kuwait


- 22-times as much oil as Iran


- 500-times as much oil as Yemen


- and it's all right here in the Western United States .


HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil! Again, we are letting a small group of people dictate our lives and our economy.....WHY?

James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East -more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped. That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today, reports The Denver Post.
Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price - even with this find? Think again! It's all about the competitive marketplace, - it has to. Think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists?


Got your attention yet? Now, while you're thinking about it, do this:


Pass this along. If you don't take a little time to do this, then you should stifle yourself the next time you complain about gas prices - by doing NOTHING, you forfeit your right to complain.


Now I just wonder what would happen in this country if every one of you sent this to every one in your address book.

By the way...this is all true. Check it out at the link below!!!
GOOGLE it, or follow this link. It will blow your mind.

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
 
Have a friend send this to me. When everyone gets tired of pointing their fingers at the sky, and complaining Maybe ,Just maybe things will change(that was the promise of OB remember?)well it changed now if your not willing to take some action .JUST SUCK IT UP and pay the pipers,(whom ever they are).I don't ever expect prices to get reasonable again $1.48 gal. Have fun guys Polk this link for your amazement
Regards
LOU.
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Folks, it is like this:

Government takes the people's money, they take control of the people.

external_link did say that he wouldn't be surprised to see gasoline go to 7-12 dollars a gallon back when he first got elected, so it is no surprise.

But,....no,..the American Idol generation voted him in for his charisma, and other nonsense of false promises.

China has made a deal with Russia that makes Russia the sole provider of oil to China, and it will not be US dollars in exchange either. Even though the US dollar is the so called world reserve currency. China has also said the the US dollar should no longer be the reserve currency,..and when that happens, welcome to the 3rd world USA!

Pray for America that a divine intervention happens to stop NWO movement.
 
Gas increased 10 cents mid day to 3.36.Friend just called and said oil is 130.00 per barrel.I paid 3.16. last week when I bought grain.I can see the gas price at the general store across the road.My truck wont go out until March 9.
 
I notice that area farmers will stick it to you when you need some hay .I remember one who wouldnt sell in the fall because he figured on getting a better price come spring.
 
Don't see it written in the US constitution to have the right to drive a 12-15mpg pickup as a car. And be able to purchase fuel for 2 or 3 bucks a gallon.
Purchase an economy weenier wagon that gets 30mpg. And use a trailer if you need to haul something. A trailer holds more and is easier to load than the back of a pickup.
That is how farming is done in Europe. In fact they just hauler trailers and wagons with tractors and forget about owning light trucks.
I don't see even 2% of the trucks and SUV's driven here being used as trucks and SUV's. They are just status vehicles for show.
Want to save the nation fuel consumption by million barrels a day or the 21 or so million burned per day?
Just close done the drive throughs where the fat butt drivers sit idling their vehicles. And make them waddle into Micky D's for a burger and fries.
Have drivers use electric block heaters instead of idling the vehicle to warmup on frosty mornings.
Then again this is all mute point. The US can liquefy coal for at least a century and forget about importing oil.
 
I would think big brother corporate/government would want to use up all the overseas oil first before pumping oil in North Dakota & Montana.......then the US would be the last supply......how high can you charge if you have the last barrels left? Paul
 
Fred.I'm 75 years old,and I truly do understand the delima that you are into ,along with a whole lot of other folks,(including us)and like you We live on a budget (limited income)where constant rising cost has us re-shuffling the balance ledger most every week.Wanted to purchase some acreage but if I did, he bank would control most every asset we have. Our home is debt free, All our vehicles are paid for but prices of Home fuel oil. Wood cost,gas to run the equipment, including a vehicle to go to grocery store, Dr. appointment etc. License Plate fees, repair parts when necessary, electric rates going up almost monthly, Insurance -Home-Auto,makes for a tougher time as when We were younger. My son can now feel the pinch we are slowly getting dragged into ,by high prices.Right now ,down below us is a newly(4 years) built house the owners can't get rid of and the lake shore taxes is eating away at what they thought would be a wind fall what with the housing market booming.Lots of speculators in the housing market ,and the WANT FOR A Bigger impressive home,caught em with their pants down so to speak,when the bottom fell out of the housing market ,the lending thieves pillaged . I truly don't feel any sympathy for their plight. You and I are caught in the middle of class living conditions war fare. Just keep trying and have faith. God bless .
Regards LOU.
 
(quoted from post at 15:21:25 02/24/11) Don't see it written in the US constitution to have the right to drive a 12-15mpg pickup as a car. And be able to purchase fuel for 2 or 3 bucks a gallon.
Purchase an economy weenier wagon that gets 30mpg. And use a trailer if you need to haul something. A trailer holds more and is easier to load than the back of a pickup.
That is how farming is done in Europe. In fact they just hauler trailers and wagons with tractors and forget about owning light trucks.
I don't see even 2% of the trucks and SUV's driven here being used as trucks and SUV's. They are just status vehicles for show.
Want to save the nation fuel consumption by million barrels a day or the 21 or so million burned per day?
Just close done the drive throughs where the fat butt drivers sit idling their vehicles. And make them waddle into Micky D's for a burger and fries.
Have drivers use electric block heaters instead of idling the vehicle to warmup on frosty mornings.
Then again this is all mute point. The US can liquefy coal for at least a century and forget about importing oil.
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Don't be foolish! Our constitution also doesn't say one can't have a SUV or a truck that gets only 12 miles per gallon. If you haven't noticed,...Europe (also known as Eurabia!) just SUCKS! The documents are about freedom, not restrictions,...read it some time!!!! :twisted: :x
 
(quoted from post at 21:25:06 02/24/11) You completely missed the point.Either on purpose
or because of limited awareness.
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Sorry I said you are foolish. It's just that I have studied the Constitution from top to bottom, and I just get a bit bothered when one makes an incorrect or false reference to it.

I guess I have that "limited awareness" since I don't get your point. Your post says what it says doesn't it? Take care.

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That's right. Many folk think as US citizens they are entitled to and it is their right. To drive a SUV or pickup. And be able to afford the fuel on a manual labour's wages.
 
There's too much money in big oil for them to let the environmentalists be much more than a bug splattered on the windshield in the grand scheme.

Look at the coal industry. It's not nearly as lucrative as big oil yet they STRIP MINE thousands of acres of land, totally destroying the local environment in the process. The environmentalists wail and gnash their teeth, yet the miners keep mining.

Sorry, but that isn't the reason why we're apparently not drilling.

There are two possibilities:

1. It's too expensive to drill.
2. There is no oil.

But, who says we're NOT drilling in the Rocky Mountains? Has anybody researched it? Just because it doesn't make the headlines on Fox news doesn't mean it isn't happening.
 
(quoted from post at 07:05:57 02/25/11) That's right. Many folk think as US citizens they are entitled to and it is their right. To drive a SUV or pickup. And be able to afford the fuel on a manual labour's wages.
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Entitled? Wrong word, we aren't entitled to drive anything. We are however given the rights of Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness aren't we? I think that is where driving what one wants to drive comes into play.
 
(quoted from post at 07:26:56 02/25/11) There's too much money in big oil for them to let the environmentalists be much more than a bug splattered on the windshield in the grand scheme.

Look at the coal industry. It's not nearly as lucrative as big oil yet they STRIP MINE thousands of acres of land, totally destroying the local environment in the process. The environmentalists wail and gnash their teeth, yet the miners keep mining.

Sorry, but that isn't the reason why we're apparently not drilling.

There are two possibilities:

1. It's too expensive to drill.
2. There is no oil.

But, who says we're NOT drilling in the Rocky Mountains? Has anybody researched it? Just because it doesn't make the headlines on Fox news doesn't mean it isn't happening.
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No oil? What was all that stuff that spilled in the Gulf? (Amazing how nature cleaned it up huh?)

We have much oil on U.S. soil. Too expensive? Do you understand how much more wealthy this country would be if we did so? Look at all the jobs that it would create.

Face it, our government by bringing in NAFTA, and endorsing a false global warming conspiracy has killed jobs left and right in this country. As a country we can sustain self sufficiency again if given a chance. We are being brought down to 3rd world nation status as we breath right now.
 
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(quoted from post at 07:26:56 02/25/11) There's too much money in big oil for them to let the environmentalists be much more than a bug splattered on the windshield in the grand scheme.

Look at the coal industry. It's not nearly as lucrative as big oil yet they STRIP MINE thousands of acres of land, totally destroying the local environment in the process. The environmentalists wail and gnash their teeth, yet the miners keep mining.

Sorry, but that isn't the reason why we're apparently not drilling.

There are two possibilities:

1. It's too expensive to drill.
2. There is no oil.

But, who says we're NOT drilling in the Rocky Mountains? Has anybody researched it? Just because it doesn't make the headlines on Fox news doesn't mean it isn't happening.
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No oil? What was all that stuff that spilled in the Gulf? (Amazing how nature cleaned it up huh?)

We have much oil on U.S. soil. Too expensive? Do you understand how much more wealthy this country would be if we did so? Look at all the jobs that it would create.

Face it, our government by bringing in NAFTA, and endorsing a false global warming conspiracy has killed jobs left and right in this country. As a country we can sustain self sufficiency again if given a chance. We are being brought down to 3rd world nation status as we breath right now.
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Hmmmmmmmm......... a solid government owned oil company would create thousands of jobs and give us the oil we need for some sort of self sustainability. However, I would only support something like this if we are careful about where we drill, how much land is taken, and of course the technology used to accomplish this. No BP or any other outside company. I'm talking a government run operation.
 
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No oil? What was all that stuff that spilled in the Gulf? (Amazing how nature cleaned it up huh?)
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No oil on American soil. If these trillions of barrels of oil were under the Rocky Mountains as is claimed, not even Jesus Christ himself would stop big oil from drilling there.

We have much oil on U.S. soil. Too expensive? Do you understand how much more wealthy this country would be if we did so? Look at all the jobs that it would create.
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Oil companies are only concerned with making THEMSELVES wealthy. They could care less about our country.

The status quo is working well for them. Demand is up. Prices are way up. Profits are beyond the human mind's ability to understand.

If we were to find out that the earth's really full of dinosaur squeezin's, not hot lava like the scientists say, and that we really have an unlimited supply of oil, what would that do to the market?
 
Oh, c'mon! What is the main objective to running an oil company? Making money right? Why do we do we blame them when our very own government makes more money off of us than the oil companies? Private industry is about making money,...government should be about protecting us, not destroying us. But they are doing just that,..destroying us by taxing, and regulating us for every single thing we do. They have sworn to stay in keeping with what the Constitution and they should know exactly what the Declaration of Independence says. Are they really doing this? (gun control, restrictions of freedom of speach, and mandatory "health-care?) Government is the ones who regulate the oil companies by taxation, end result is higher prices. Let's not forget that the oil companies pay "fees" for frivolous non-sense, like pro-global warming lies horse-crap. Global warming is nothing more than a taxation. We need to drill the hell out of our wasteland at Alaska's ANWAR because it is the frozen equivalent to land on the moon.
 
"pursuit of happiness" doesn't imply any guarantees the way i read it. BUT! For once I agree 100% with B&D below , that probably 90% of pick-up trucks on the road have their beds used less than 5% of the miles they are driven. LOSE the testerone people and buy a trailer and hitch it to something that gets some mileage when you need to haul. I havn't had a pick-up in 25 yrs and never miss it. I have ONE vehicle and it hauls all the grand kids and us through any kind of snow or weather and hauls my 20' implement trailer when I need to haul tractors or parts. Smaller 2 wheel 8' X 10' trailer to haul small stuff. Oh ,this vehicle will also haul 12' lumber inside with the doors all closed up. Gets 17 mpg on freeway. What is it? Suburban! Gas hog you say? Remember , I said it is my ONLY vehicle and look at all it does! and every week it does it. It's what you get out of that 17 mpg that counts and this ONE vehicle does it all. thanks ,B&D , you are one of the few men out there that actually "gets it"!!
 
(quoted from post at 18:36:08 02/25/11) "pursuit of happiness" doesn't imply any guarantees the way i read it. BUT! For once I agree 100% with B&D below , that probably 90% of pick-up trucks on the road have their beds used less than 5% of the miles they are driven. LOSE the testerone people and buy a trailer and hitch it to something that gets some mileage when you need to haul. I havn't had a pick-up in 25 yrs and never miss it. I have ONE vehicle and it hauls all the grand kids and us through any kind of snow or weather and hauls my 20' implement trailer when I need to haul tractors or parts. Smaller 2 wheel 8' X 10' trailer to haul small stuff. Oh ,this vehicle will also haul 12' lumber inside with the doors all closed up. Gets 17 mpg on freeway. What is it? Suburban! Gas hog you say? Remember , I said it is my ONLY vehicle and look at all it does! and every week it does it. It's what you get out of that 17 mpg that counts and this ONE vehicle does it all. thanks ,B&D , you are one of the few men out there that actually "gets it"!!
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It's not our fault that gas prices are high. We are American and we do as we please because in general, WE CAN as per the US Constitution. We are not one of the oldest countries out there, but our form of government is. That has happened for a reason,...because it is the best.

Drive what you want is what I say. Don't hate the guy who lives in an apartment and owns a F350,...he is FREE and he is allowed to do so. Be American, and be proud is all I am saying. Don't try and be a European,..they have a great history of being defeated.

Pursuit of Happiness means you are free to do so,...it does not mean it is a given. Be free, and not a hamster who gets fed and lives under control of what is usually a child like mind.
 
Yesterday I drove by a gas station (Chevron) and regular unleaded was 3.53 a gallon. Wonder if it went up this morning?
 
When gas gets to $5 people will change their ways and stop driving a F350 to town to drop their kids off at school, buy a sack of groceries, or buy a nut and bolt.

To our friends in other countries, what are you paying?
 
(quoted from post at 18:23:15 02/26/11) When gas gets to $5 people will change their ways and stop driving a F350 to town to drop their kids off at school, buy a sack of groceries, or buy a nut and bolt.

To our friends in other countries, what are you paying?
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$4.57 Canadian per US gallon which is $4.71 US per US gallon for 87 octane road gas.
 
(quoted from post at 15:23:15 02/26/11) When gas gets to $5 people will change their ways and stop driving a F350 to town to drop their kids off at school, buy a sack of groceries, or buy a nut and bolt.

To our friends in other countries, what are you paying?
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One thing I noticed is on Saturday, around 11 am, one major road was nearly empty, hardly any cars or trucks at all! Usually, this road is full of activity with cars and trucks everywhere.
 
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