ever had a creeper installed on a tractor?

looking for 80 hp. tractor with creeper. We"ll use it as a row crop for larger tasks, but in the event that my 656 hydro has problems, I want to still be able to transplant, and will baby that hydro, thus leaving more tasks that need to be accomplished(digging potatoes, field cultivating, etc). There aren"t a lot of options out there for creeper gears(.5 mph or less) standard on tractors, but I"ve been told that you can retrofit a creeper into many tractors. Anyone have experience having this done? On what tractors? How has it worked?

thanks.

Belarus comes standard with creeper gears.

Prob not the brand you want to hear about but you can prob buy them for less than the price of installing creeper gears on an other brand tractor.

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My Long 910 (Zetor built) has 16 forward gears and it really creeps in the lowest couple gears.
Lots of the European built tractors have creeper gears.

Back in the late 70's, The Ford Tractor dealership in Erskine, Mn installed a auxillary creeper gearbox on a 5600 that was used for nursery work. The price was awsome, but the tractor's owner was well pleased with his machine... Not an 80 horse machine; but the creeper speed of that tractor could be measured with a yardstick; so he had more than enough power for what he used it for..


I would agree with the thought of saving your 656 for the creeper work and getting another suitable rowcrop tractor for the more "common" chores..

I do not remember the model but I used to use a 100HP Deutz tractor that had a creeper range in it. I believe it was a separate lever that split the ratio after the transmission giving all fwd/rev gears creep speeds. It may have been a Deutz 10006?

Good luck,

CT

A Net search showed up some hits.

This post sounds like Ford might have what you need, this about a 120 h.p tractor.

"dont know how slow you are needing to go but i do know that the New Holland T6000 series, in low gear at 2200 rpm you run 1.3 miles an hour. they do offer a creeper gear with a 32f and 32 reverse trans"

Another post indicates that CaseIH already have very slow gearing. Kubota M series has or can have it (whatever that is).

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This is my homebuilt hydraulic creeper setup on a Farmall 400. It has a flow control to regulate speed. It will air shift for engage and disengage. Power goes into bull pinion gear.

Don"t know if you"re looking for only an older tractor, but the newer John Deere"s with the IVT trans will crawl right along. I think you want about a 6230 Premium or 6330 Premium with IVT, they"re right about 80 horse. The IVT"s are pretty nice on loaders too, they kinda drive like an automatic transmission in your car.

M series KUBOTA will be very cheap to do. Kit comes to dealer for easy instlation. You might go back to a 20 year old something like 8950 DT or 8580 and find one alread set up. Most of the ones sold in Florida had the creep caset already installed.

greenbeanman in Kansas, dont you have a Ford 1720? I remember you or someone else posting a picture of one? planting, or something, with a thing on the hood for making straight rows. They had a creeper gear option. I dont have it on mine, does yours? Might have the wrong fella though.

That is impressive.

John deere 5000 series had an optional creeper gear, the 5400,5410, or 5425 would meet your demands. Many of these tractors were used by modern golf courses to pull large Vertidrain aerators at speeds at or below 1mph. You may be able to find one used at JD turf locations.

You are right on the money. Ford 1720. The photo shows a magnetic CB antenna that I plopped on the hood to use as a guide toward a stake.

Without digging out my manual I tend to remember that wide open in low gear low range gives .7 mph which means 1 foot of forward travel per second.

Lots of Japanese tractors have creeper gears. I have a Kubota L2202 (gray market) tractor, 22 HP, 16 speeds, from a crawl that would put a trencher to shame, to about 10 MPH.

I try not to forget who has Fords on here lol! I see you took your loader off, I know its a QT, but I never took mine off, is it pretty easy? Heres mine running my wood splitter. It has the SSS tranny. Seems yours is newer with the NH badge on the nose, and you have a black front grill and side pannels, were mine are grey, mine is a 1994, only needed a glow plug, battery and a front axel seal since I got it in 98. I Love it. I do have cracks around the bottom of the muffler were the pipe goes into the muffler that I have welded up, so may get a new one. Yep I did forget that, you had a cb antenna on the hood. I remember something unusal on it,LOL J

Mine was the year the model carried the Ford name, a 1996.

I did have to put a water pump on mine year before last. The YT Mag folks fixed me right up and at great savings I might add. I think I placed the order around 4 p.m. and the water pump arrived two days later.

I have replaced several of the loader hoses. My tractor sets out in the weather so I expect mostly sun deterioration.

The load is easy on and easy off. Drop the two bolts just in front of and below the operator platform and then use the joy stick to lift the back of the unit a little. Slowly back away and continue to swing the frame down as it slides away. When out from under it the frame should be upright.

Back up just enough that you can easily get to the quick couple hose releases and shut the tractor off. Move the joy stick all around to release pressure in any cylinder, uncouple, and away you go. Make sure your couplers and hoses are color coded or otherwise marked to facilitate correct placement.

To re-attach. Drive close and shut off the tractor and couple up the hydraulics.

Once coupled up drive forward near the tangs on the frame and begin tilting it. It comes down on the front guides. When the bolt holders get close to the front tires you will need to drive forward to slide the frame up and back. Also watch that it doesn't catch the muffler. Once back in position you just put the two bolts back in to secure it. I add a touch of grease to the bolts or I'd use some anti-seize compound otherwise.

On and off probably takes about 5 minutes. Lot easier to change fluids with it off so you should give it a try.

Also make sure the front of the frame hooks the pins for them correctly.

Oliver had them, removed a hydropower and installed one on a 1650 once. Fit in the same case.

I was incorrect. The aforementioned speed is .8 mph in low gear low range, not .7 mph.