Garden seed any body buy yet??

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Last year I had problems find a number of types of seed that I wanted. This year I noticed that te local Dollar General has seed on sale right now for 3 for a $1. I also noticed they have a number of them I could not find last year so I have been buy them. Any body else buy yet?? I know next month I;ll be buying clover and rape seed if I can find it that is. In my area finding sweet clover seed can be hard to do. Shoot one place doesn't even know what sweet clover is
 
I'll be ordering my garden seed before the end of this month. I'm running a little late this year. I usualy have them ordered by now. As far as sweet clover, you don' see much planted in the St. Louis area any more. Mostly alfalfa, Some red clover and sudan grass.
 
Ya sweet clover seems to be a thing of the past. The biggest reason I want it is for a deer food plot. I have an idiot neighbor who dumps a 50lbs bag of horse feed to his horses one or twice a week and the deer have been eating probably 50% of it and that in turn has made it hard on us to hint deer. I have a power line cut out that I want to plant the sweet clover and rape on so as to maybe bring the deer into out stands.
 
It is said to bring in the deer. I just want it for a deer food plot since I have a problem with a neighbor see my post below to the other guy. I found a place in Lebanon which is 25 mile from me with seed so rape is no problem it is the sweet clover that seems to be a problem. Thanks
 
what is Milo? When I lived in MO, the landlord had plots planted with corn, milo, wheat, and some other stuff. Never saw rape til I got here. What are you calling sweet clover? Farmers plant red clover here just to low under.

Dave
 
Rape is more commonly called canola in the States nowadays. Extremely common in the northern plains in the past 20 years or so.
 
I have kind of given up on ordering garden seed. I get a lot more seed for less money buying in bulk at the local hardware and they usually have the varieties I would buy anyway. About the only seed I order is "show-off" cabbage. It's the best cabbage for kraut I have ever grown. Very consistent big solid heads. I think I have enough left over from last year to get me by.
 
I don't order any or so far I haven't but that could change if I do not find what I am looking for this year. I have always gotten seed local figuring it is probably more of less for this area any how
 
Sweet clover is a tall clover some times as tall as 6 foot. Has a good size stem on it and has white or yellow flowers that are about an inch long or longer. My goats love the stuff and I know deer love most clovers so I figure if I can get a god stand of sweet clover growing being a tall clover the deer might use it to hide i and eat and that way I can also find them since I have stands in the area I want to plant it in
 
I sent in an order to Vermont Bean Seed co. a week or so ago. One reason I chose that company is I'd like to try growing garbanzo beans (chick peas) and that catalogue offers them. I counted 12 pages of bean seed varieties! I like garbanzos in salads and have never seen them grown. It's fun to try new things, also ordered colored broom corn for decoration.
 
Last year I looked all over the place for Wax bean seed and could not find any any place but today when I was in Dollar General I found some and got 2 packs. I needed them last years for canning 3 bean salad
 
How about RUPP, or Johnnys seeds, I always get catalogs from them it seems. Never ordered from them, somehow got my name, lol
 
About the last time I was satisfied with a mail-order nursery was when Gurneys was still in Yankton, South Dakota.
About the only thing a nursery will send you through the mail now is dead sticks and a lot of their customer service is from India.
I try to get about everything local now.
 
i have a stack of different catalogs that showed up in the past month or so. been making lists and such. one catalog has mushroom plugs that you put in stumps and fallen hardwood logs. shitake, lions maine and a couple others. 25 dollars for 100 plugs. been kicking around trying some.
 
I usually find the seeds I'm looking for at Race Bros, or Ag Center in Carthage. This year I want to plant all heiloom seeds. Idea is to sell at local farmers market. Almost time to get ground worked up for potato planting in March. I Can't wait. Mark
 
I've had GREAT luck with Johnny's. Got the majority of my seed from them last year. Over $500 from them alone.
The couple times I've had to call customer service, I gotten knowledgeable, courteous help.
Shipping is reasonable and only takes about 4 days- even clear out here to the west coast.

Highly recommend them.

Ben
 
According to my CASE Combine manual there are 4 variaties of Rape 1 Rape- Anual, 157,000 seeds. per pound. 2 Rape- Bird, 192,500 seeds per pound 3 Rape- Turnip 243,000 seeds per pound. and 4 Rape- Winter, 104,500 seeds per pound. All weigh 50# per BU.
It goes on to say that Rape is best adapted to a moist cool climate,and grown largley for pasturing hogs, cattle, and sheep. It belongs to the turnip family and is sown early in the spring or late summer at a rate of 3 pounds per acre, usually with oats or barley. There is some danger of bloating when stock is turned in it when it is damp. White hogs sometimes blister from running in wet Rape. Rape can be straight combined as soon asthe leaves drop off the stalks. Even though the stalks remain green, the seeds are easily threshed from the pods. Since the stems are pithy and rather large, care should be taken while cutting not to take too much of the stalk into the combine. The ground up stalks result in high moisture content and difficult separation. See more details in the Combine forum titled strange crops -- a page or 3 back now.
 
Rich, I've been around horses a good portion of my life, seems odd for someone to dump expensive feed (anything in bags specific for horses), waste, spoilage, pilferage, + attracting rodents like rats, flies like some of these feeds and lay their eggs, then they get worms, makes no sense to me at least, we always measure out what they get in feed, aside from their hay, even if turned out, the feed bowl/bucket gets taken away after, hung upside down, and cleaned as needed. Makes no sense why anyone would do that, maybe it's just whole oats or something similar, not pellets or sweet feed etc., we'd have rats around here if you did that. You never see any rats ever, not even indigenous ones, but start dumping that grain and they will show up sooner or later, used to get em at the manure pile, picking through it, feed was always secured and area kept clean in the barn, just grain in the manure was enough to sustain em.

I really enjoy planting forage crops for the deer, and I know in some locations what a nuisance they can be, we have to fence in our gardens, nothing else they really bother, 'cept saplings. I have always hunted them to provide some extra food, it's nice to know and watch them eat what you have planted. Some like to plant things that help antler growth, spring to early summer, but I do find an inexpensive forage crop to plant is oats, late summer, around here they have tons of cover nearby, so they bed close, and just hammer them oats (well the tender oat grass) seemingly the base of the plant, maybe it is sweeter, then later in the season, they graze the tops off, right up to December, depending on when the oats freeze out, but even then they will keep after em awhile even under the snow. High protein forage if I am correct and cheap to plant. I assume this is a good way to "finish em, the meat has been excellent, even the the oldest doe I got, teeth were worn down to nothin she was so old. Filled all my tags, from a stand overlooking a field planted in oats, that was harvested, regrowth + plus what I re-planted, this 7 acres just draws em in, seen more bucks and more traffic then ever, in total there was about 40 acres in oats, lots of forage for em.

Whitetail Institute has some great products, but darned expensive seed, I have planted their imperial whitetail clover and what a nice stand it became, til the darned geese came in one spring an decimated it. Keep the PH right, fertile, mow it periodically, will last 5 years no problem. Their "no plow" seed is probably the best bang for the buck, thing is though you want to plant it so that it is still tender, its only good for 6-8 months, be perfect if you could get it to take early mid summer, by the time fall hits, it'll stand out while everything else is dying out. I plow and disc anyway, germinates quickly and seems to have aggressive growth.
 
This neighbor has pretty no clue as to what he is doing. Has a big feed trough and he dumps the feed in and walks away. He might come back in 2 or 3 days or a week never know. What ever he feeds is a brown powder don't know what it is don't care other then it makes it harder to hunt deer.
Now as for how one should feed horse well I pretty well know one to since I own and have owned horses for years and my horse get ALL the hay they want and a cup of a special mix once a day at about the same time of day. Yep I love to deer hunt and love to watch them at the time you can not hunt. I try to always plant food plots for them but with this neighbor I have to change how I do thing. Oh and he never ever has any hay out for them no matter what the weather is doing
 
I suppose each to his own when it comes to the horse, I try to get the best hay I can, can be up to 4000 bales bought some years, they'll get feed 2x a day, most of em get about a quart measure worth, seems to keep em fit, younger ones and depending on how much they work, little more on the feed, good hay seems to work best, when possible I like to get 400-500 bales of 2nd cut, always lots of hay for em, they sure like 2nd or any other later cuttings though, nice to have this time of year too. Ya gotta hay em,if'n theres no grass :) surprised they don't get ornery on him Lol !
 
He pretty much feed them and leaves them to there own. Bet he doesn't spend an hour a week with them and that is being a estimate and that is probably on the high side. Even last week when we had 4 inches of snow he didn't have so much as a flack of hay for them
 

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