600 series ford

Roy Johnson · Jan 22, 2011

I am thinking of buying a tractor a 600 ford series to be exact. I am very novice at this sort of thing so I thought I would ask someone who might know . We asked the seller if it had pto drive . He said to his knowledge it had a cover back there but wasn't sure . So here is my question , If it has some sort of cover on it does that mean it is present or even if it doesn't have actual live pto can it be installed? Thanks

MNGB · Jan 22, 2011

Hi Roy, welcome to the forum, if you ask this question in the Ford section it would be seen by a lot more Ford guys. If the is a cover (looks like a can) in the lower middle of the rear end it will screw off exposing the PTO there'll be a squared ares to put a wrench on the cover. The 600 sreies Ford are good little tractors depending on if its the straight 600 or 601 series HP is 30 to 34, they'll have live hydraulics but may or may not have live PTO depends again what model it is.
GB in MN

Anonymous-0 · Jan 22, 2011

If it has a cover it will have PTO as said above If it is a 4 spd (most commomn)it has std PTO if it is a 5 spd it has live PTO. Good tractors I have had one for 30 yrs.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 22, 2011

The 600 models were as follows

Model 620: Four-speed transmission, no PTO or three-point hitch
Model 630: Four-speed transmission without PTO
Model 640: Four-speed transmission with PTO and with three-point hitch
Model 650: Five-speed transmission, non-live PTO with three-point hitch
Model 660: Five-speed transmission, live PTO and three-point hitch

I have seen the plenty of 650/651s which do not have a live pto. To the original poster the cover for the pto on these tractors threads on. Just have the fellow take it off and you can see what kind of shape the shaft is in. We bought a 1964 4000 new and always kept the cover on when not using the pto until the day we sold the tractor. Most of the covers were likely lost many years ago.

JDemaris · Jan 22, 2011

Hopefully you know what you need the tractor for. A 600 with a four-speed - with a PTO - is kind of useless for certain types of work. That because it's way too fast in 1st gear and reverse. Don't plan on ever using a rear tiller or snow-blower.

It can also be miserable on a brush-hog if you have to do a lot of stopping, going, three-point turns, etc.

IanC · Jan 22, 2011

Look at the front end of the clutch rod and see it there are two holes. If there are it's likely a "live" PTO, I'd still push the clutch by hand and see if I could feel both stages.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 22, 2011

We have a 640 and it does have a PTO but unless you have the bolt-on adapter it is worthless. A small PTO output shaft is under the cap/cover. You remove the cap/cover and install this bolt on adapter which extends the PTO and provides the normal sized shaft.

Fordfarmer · Jan 22, 2011

They switched to the standard 1 3/8" in mid production, so you'd have to check which it has. Many have also been changed to 1 3/8" over the years. (not a hard or terribly expensive job)

Anonymous-0 · Jan 22, 2011

Thanks, didn't know these details. Only knew what ours came with and what had to be done to use it.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 22, 2011

My 600 has 2 holes in the clutch rod and does not have a 2 stage clutch, it does have the 1 3/8 pto shaft with the cover.

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