whats a fair price for hauling?

Anonymous-0 · Jan 1, 2011

A friend asked me if I would haul about a ton of steam engine flues home for him. The trip is about 200mi. one way. There is a 4000# tractor I am interested in 40 miles further down the road that I would pass up but if I got some help with fuel I could kill two birds with one stone. I would take a trailer either way. I would not make this trip if it were not for getting his flues and I feel that the use of my Dodge dsl and trailer is worth something. I was thinking it would be fair if he would pay a percentage of the fuel. What would be fair? I thought at least 50%. I would appreciate any sincere replies, if you have a smart alleck comment keep it to your self please.

El Toro · Jan 1, 2011

That should be a fair price paying 50%. Hal

david - or · Jan 1, 2011

If I were your friend I'd offer to pay all of the fuel for the round trip. I think this is fair because you still bear the cost of wear and tear on the truck and trailer, plus the time and trouble of loading and unloading his stuff.
This is still a bargain compared to commercial haulers.

snoop-nc · Jan 1, 2011

...Fill up on YOUR dime...fill up again on return and then split the bill.

50% sure seems MORE than fair especially if he is going with you to assist with loading of tractor and his stuff also.

Please drive carefully!!

Rick

onefarmer · Jan 1, 2011

50-50 sounds fair to me, including the extra 40 miles. His half of the extra 40 can be for the wear and tear of the rig and it isn't that much more anyway.

Massey 23 · Jan 1, 2011

Have you considered your time and equipment cost? Does not sound fair to me.

LAA · Jan 1, 2011

If someone was going to drive 200 miles one way and haul something back 200 miles for me I would gladly pay 100% of the fuel and whatever he hauled at the same time for himself would be his business.

Gun guru · Jan 1, 2011

$1 per loaded mile and have him pay a fuel charge like maybe $30 or something.

Welding man · Jan 1, 2011

Let him buy all the fuel,you are furnishing everything else including your time.If he had it shipped on a freight truck it would probably cost $300.00. I get stuff on freight trucks all the time,about $100.00 is the min. charge now.

evilboweivel · Jan 1, 2011

In the past I have been on both sides.
100% of all costs; fuel, food, tolls, motel rooms when needed is paid by non hauler.
This is what has worked for me

NOW if a really good friend you probably would not be asking here and would just do it.
Letting him pay what he thought was fair works then.

Ron

Ray · Jan 1, 2011

Your taking a big chance for 1/2 a tank of fuel.Most insurance won't cover you hauling someone else's stuff.If something happens your on the hook.A friend is being sued for 200000 over a tractor that fell off a truck and did some damage.He was hauling for a friend.

Lumpie · Jan 1, 2011

Hire a truck to do, you're looking at $1000. What if you lose a tire, DOT boys get you, liability insurance, whatever? I wouldn't pull out the drive for less than $500, and that's doing him a favor.

trucker 40 · Jan 1, 2011

So you are going 240 miles one way.It takes fuel both ways so about 500 miles.How many miles per gallon do you get?However many miles per gallon for 500 miles.Lets just say 15 miles per gallon.or about 35 gallons.That would be around 100 dollars worth of fuel.Then it costs for your time and wear and tear on your truck.Its going to take you 8 hours probably if not more to drive it.However long to load it,boom it down,and whatever.Say you have a tire blow out,you want to make enough to pay for some of that if it happens.Id say 300 dollars,but thats me and I dont know the guy.Maybe since 80 miles is for you,you could knock some off,but still Id say about 250.Id ask him 250 dollars and see if that worked for him.
That comes out to about 100 dollars for fuel and 15 dollars an hour for you and a truck.You arent getting rich,thats for sure.Its also 50 cents a mile if thats the way you want to look at it.

Old Roy · Jan 1, 2011

since yore going for yourself as well I'd charge him half the fuel and toss a quarter fer lunch.

brian(MN) · Jan 1, 2011

Sounds lke a win-win situation for both of you. Your friend gets his pipes hauled and you get your tractor hauled. If I were your friend I would offer to pay all the fuel costs, even for the extra miles you have to go for the tractor, and buy lunch. You get a companion for the day who will help load ect. Discuss how it should be paid before you hook up your trailer. If he balks ate paying the entire fuel bill, remind him you are not asking for anything for the "wear and tear" on your pick=up and trailer. The main load you will be hauling will be your tractor, and if he will pay for the fuel, you got it made.
Brian(MN)

Grabatire · Jan 1, 2011

I too have been on both sides, and when it's my turn to help out, I offer to do so with all of my out of pocket expenses like fuel, meals, (rooms if necessary) etc. being covered. At times the person I'm hauling for, travels with me. At other times not.

The longest trip so far has been a bit over 1200 miles one-way with no back haul. In that situation I was offered an additional twenty five cents per mile to cover vehicle wear and tear. I'm not a commercial hauler so close to break-even is fine with me.

Of course it's often a "you scratch my back I'll scratch your back" situation, which in the course of a lifetime, usually works out even.

GordoSD · Jan 1, 2011

He should buy all the fuel and your lunch, and beer when you get home.

Gordo

NW Ohio Tim · Jan 1, 2011

I'd be happy on either side of the deal if it was 50% of fuel. Your getting company and help as a bonus. If you were hauling for me, I'd pick up the meals too, but I wouldn't expect it if I was doing the driving.

Sounds like a win win to me.

kyhayman · Jan 1, 2011

I'd print this out and give to him, let him pay you what he thinks is fair. To me, I'd either do it for nothing or 1.80 a loaded mile. Thats my rock bottom truck and trailer price when I'm delivering hay. It would take me around 40 gallons of fuel, 400 miles is 10 percent of an oil change, then there's repairs, tires, and you time.

BDT in Minnesota · Jan 1, 2011

If the two of you go together and get the tractor and the pipes; you can split the fuel 50-50... you get help loading the tractor that way, and your fuel expense is half paid by him.... Most importantly: you would be hauling your own tractor.. It would be hard to call this a commercial haul... (are you licensed for commercial hauling?)

S2710 · Jan 1, 2011

That don't sound like a friend to me.

Don OH · Jan 1, 2011

how much do you value your friendship ? if he was a close friend and is there for you i would ask a dime, if i was alittle cash strapped i would tell himhe would need to buy fuel. if i was going to buy a tractor that way anyhow, i would take what he offered. but i have a feeling onlyyou know what kind of friend he is or you are to him, do what your heart tells you. you will be better off. have a good trip. don

RandyB(MI) · Jan 1, 2011

Some questions to ask yourself. Is he going to go with you for help? Is he the type friend that would come over and help you put brakes or exhaust or do other repairs/maintenance on your truck/trailer???? Something tells me you are on your own on all counts here. Also tells me his time , to him , is worth more doing something else while you do the haul. Charge him FULL fuel cost no matter what. As far as labor time , if you want to do it for free , go ahead , that part is completely negoshable. Then there is the cost for equipment use. You have the investment , HE DON'T! You pay the insurance , plates , maintenance , repairs and depreciation. Try hiring someone with a backhoe or dozer to do a small job for you sometime. Get the picture? My opinion...you got to get $1.00 a driven mile just to cover your fuel and equipment expences. After that it's up to you. Any less than that and he is asking you to pay out of your pocket. What you pick up along the way is really none of his bussiness , freind or otherwise.

RandyB(MI) · Jan 1, 2011

( that should have been $1.00 loaded mile)

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