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Bill from Scotland

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I need to remove the oil pan on my Massey 97 MM 705 to replace a bent rod. I know its a heavy pan so I have made up a frame (attached to a trolley jack) to support the pan when I finally get it off. My problem is I now have all the bolts out but the pan it stuck solid with the gasket seal. Seems real difficult to get any leverage on the pan to break the seal. Has anyone any ideas of how to get it free without damage?
Thanks
Bill
 
Bill,

Don"t know the specifics of your Massey pan, but I have had similar problems on other engines.

I used a screwdriver once, then had to hammer a pan flange straight again.

Now I have a thin but strong putty knife. Metal all the way through so you can hammer on the end.
I keep working my way around slowly, breaking the seal loose. Eventually you get enough gap to put a screwdriver in. I don"t pry with the screwdriver, just use it to hold a little pressure on the pan. Then keep working the putty knife the rest of the way around.

Being a bigger pan on your Massey you probably can use a little more muscle on it.

Rick
 
Replace 2 or 3 or 4 of the capscrews with ones 2" long or so. This will let the pan drop as you get it loose, but keep it from falling with damage to you or the pan.
 
Ok so I cannot answer your question, but I just backtracked your ip and I see you are in the UK. I had no idea that Massey 97s were sent anywhere other than the US. Was it originally sold in the UK or was it shipped there by a individual? Congrats on owning a cool antique tractor. Hope you get the pan off.

Aaron
 
A putty knife like gasket scraper is what you want.You may have to tap it with a hammer if its stuck real bad.Just try and break it loose some where and then work on the other side.Or wherever it takes to get it coming off evenly.
 
Bill,

I use a homemade version of this tool:
http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Gasket-Seal-Separator-Remover/dp/B0031RBGZ2
This has worked well for removing oil pans that have been there for 50 or 60 years and dont" want to come free. An old screwdriver will bend the flange and a putty knife is too thin and weak to get through the gasket or give leverage to pop it off the block. This tool cuts as it is driven in. Remember once the pan is off and cleaned up to make sure the bolt holes are not distorted. Use a couple of hammers to get them back flat with the rest of the flage so you don"t have leaks.
Josh
 
Hi
The MF 97 was never a model sent to the UK, I imported it along with a 95 Super and a MM705 a few years ago, bought them from a guy in North Dakota. The ones I have are the only versions I know to be in Scotland and are always something different when visiting local shows. These tractors have real presence when parked up along with some of our much smaller UK models.
Bill
 
Thanks for all the advice guys. I made up a tool, piece of steel 1 inch wide and filed it to a chisel edgethen bent it between the side rail and the edge of the pan. I then gave it a couple of hits with the hammer and guess what the pan is now free. I hope to get it completely off sometime over the next couple of days to change the rod.
Thanks for now.
Bill
 
I really like the look of the big wheatfield(?) tractors. Around here (Eastern US) a MF65 is about too big in a 2wd tractor. The only big tractors I see have been trucked in from out West.

Aaron
 
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