Volunteer FD truck bid

Rick Kr

Well-known Member
I know a lot of you on here are on a VFD so I am hoping you can help me a little on a sealed bid price.

Our local dept. has a 1987 GMC 3500 4x4 mini-pumper, 450gpm pump (Heil), 250g tank. American Eagle body. 8k front winch. 21,00 miles. Runs and drives good. 6.2L diesel, 4 spd. manual. Crawled all over it, everything looks good body wise, other than the standard holes drilled here and there for lights.

Can't be put back in service.

Plan to take the mini-pumper off and put a flat bed on it for a farm truck. Like a dummy, I didn't take my camera to take a picure or two.
I know some hate the 6.2L, but at 21K miles, it should have some life left in it, plus I have a spare 454/TH400 drivetrain just in case.

Sealed bid. Any idea on a price?

Thanks in advance.
Rick
 
I'd bid 3351 and see what happens. Its probably worth quite a bit more, but.... you have to do some work to get it into what you want it. Our FD has bought a lot of used trucks over the years, F700s to F900s to turn into tanker trucks. Most have 7.3 Internationals with less than 150,000 miles, and we have never paid over 3500 for any of them out of a regional cartage company. All are 5-6 years old. Thats when the company sells them, at their 5 year mark regardless of miles. Another local company then takes 8000 dollars and puts lights, tanker packages, and a paint job on them.
 
Why can't it be put back in service?

Another rural fire department might easily pay 6K for it and use it like it is after putting a few lights back on.

I would suspect your value is less considering it needs a bed.
 
Basically worth whatever that cab and chassis will bring in your area and mabey a bit less because a person would have to go through the work of cutting off and disposing of the fire body... Only good thing here is that it's not a midship.
I really can't see it bringing much over 3K

Rod
 
The mileage is not a good indicator of wear. That truck likely spent a lot of time idleing. It is not likely to be as pristine as you expect. I would be very careful, and bid low.
 
It probably did spend a fair amount of time idleing but I'd still expect it to be a pretty good truck. Spending it's life in a heated garage does tend to keep the deterioration to a minimum.
My bigger worry would be the clutch... to be quite honest. It'll damn well amaze ya at how fast some people can rip a clutch to shreds.

Rod
 
If it's been used as a pumper that engine has had a real workout! A smaller pumper with a smaller engine has to work pretty hard to provide enough volume to put out a fire. At least it's not a gas engine.
 
I wouldn't worry much about the engine. A Hale AP450 won't stress an engine much; even the humble 6.2.
That's probably not taking much more than 50 hp to drive that pump in most situations. We've got a somewhat similar pressure/volume pump that runs on an 18 hp Honda v-twin. If the AP450 was running at full flow and pressure it might take over 100 hp but that's still nothing for a 6.2.


Rod
 
Thanks for all your input.

It has 1900 hours on the hour meter, some people like to multiply that by 40mph. So you could say it has 78,000 miles. But idling is far easier than driving.

As for the 21K miles I bet they had the pedal to the floor driving it to the next fire.

I believe the reason it can't be put back in service, was they got some FEMA money to replace it, and FEMA says the old truck can't go back to service. Don't quote me on that though.

I got a week before I have to have the bid in, so I'll put a pic up if I get it.

Rick
 

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