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I posted yesterday, I'm working on our 51' Willys truck...My local auto parts stores were not able to help me find parts for my starter. I have the super hurricane 6cyl motor...my starter has a broken plastic brush arm & no identification on the case other than "9 x 21". Can anyone tell me specifically what starter fits those old trucks? Anyone have a starter they want to sell me? Thanks.
 
As close as I can tell Willys between 1942-59 used Auto-lite starters. Yesterday someone told you it was a Delco. Maybe so. You don't have any numbers that make sense to me for either makes. So either find a mom and pop auto elec shop or go to
junk yard.
 
Something tells me it's Autolite. The first jeep was a Ford design but the war department folks took that design and gave it to Willys because Willys had excess manufacturing capacity at the time (1940-41). Henry was PO'd but Ford got to build a few jeeps. The Willys designated name was the MB and Ford's was GPW all parts were interchangeable but the Ford built parts had the Ford script 'F' stamped on them in some hidden spot. Jim
 
Google Peter DeBella Jeep parts. He's got all the info. known toman on Jeeps and also has lots of parts.
 
You would be better to see a starter shop. If your where i think you are i can suggest a good one. You may buy one on ebay or a jeep site.
 
Wrong.

Bantam Car company designed the Jeep and won an army contract to produce it (1,500 units), it then lost the next purchase contract to Willys (16,000 units) who "incorporated" most of the Bantam design but used its own 4 cylinder engine. Ford also submitted a design and won a contract for 1,500 of its "Pygmy" scout car (designated the GP by the army) that also used most of Bantam's design and a Ford engine. Ford's contract for that design was renewed but only an additional 2,956 were delivered.

When the army started to gear up for WW2 Willys and later Ford built nearly all the Jeeps (Bantam only built 2675 Jeeps) using the design that was finalized by Willys. During World War II, Willys produced 363,000 Jeeps and Ford some 280,000.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willys_MB

http://www.m38a1.ca/history.html
 
I am a few hours away from you, but up here in Fairmont WV we have an excellent auto electric shop. It is called ProLine and is located adjacent to I-79, more specifically

152 Middletown Road
Fairmont, WV 26554-8104
(304) 366-2572

perhaps if you contact them and send them a pic/broken part they can match it up for you.

HTH

Aaron
 
There used to be a guy over in Minnesota, when we used to order parts for our 63 willy"s jeep,called Willy"s of Minneapolis or something like that.If he is still in business he should know.HTH.
LOU
 
I've got a 51 pickup, and a "Super Hurricane"
6 cyl. from a cab forward FC-170. Just had the
starter rebuilt by an auto electric shop, G.A.S.
(Generator-Alternater-Starter) of Altura Minn,
up on the ridge at ALTURA, Minnesota, west of
Rollingstone, northwest of Winona. His phone is
(507)459-1150. And he's done half a dozen
starters for Wisconsin 2 cyl engines for me this
year. He's got lots of parts sources, can fix
most anything, and glass bead blasts the cases
and paints them..stuff looks like new ! !
 
You posted a picture in the other thread and it's CLEARLY a relatively modern Delco starter as opposed to the old Autolite that truck would have had when new.

<img src = "http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc34/1951cub/willysstarter022.jpg">

Has someone transplanted a Chevy engine into it (a COMMON thing to do)?

(NOPE, guess not, after looking at your album... someone must have come up with a MUCH newer starter that would work with the 'ol "flatty"!)

<img src = "http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc34/1951cub/DSC02438.jpg">

If won't be 'til later or in the AM, but I'll post some numbers for that insulated brushholder.

Heck, email me an address and I'll send you one for FREE, I've got dozens of 'em!

BTW, I've got the younger brother to that rig in my shop, a 1953.

[email protected]
 
Take a look at the repost of his photo and tell me if you STILL think it's an Autolite starter!
 
I'm 99% sure that is an autolite/prestolite starter. Autolite had some that the brushes went in like the delcos. It also has a pin in it for the end plate which most delcos like that don't have. You can just use a delco 10mt brushholder , it looks like somebody already put delco brushes in it. hth jstpa
 
JST, do you have ANY idea what an early 50's Prestolite starter actually looks like?????
 
Bob, I make my living rebuilding starters and alternators. An early 50s delco starter still has the brushes mounted to the comm. end housing. When was the last time you saw a 10mt field housing that thick.Or the pin to index the commend housing in the field case. I'll give you , that someone put delco brushes in it. I have also used the delco brushholders in these type of starters. I'm not trying to start a peeing match, but I know what kind of starter that is. hth , jstpa p.s. If we could see the body of the armature it would help prove it.
 
Thanks for setting me straight. I restored a 41 GPW script jeep, meaning the name Ford was stamped in the tailgate. The material I read said the military outlawed stamping the name in the tailgate in 42. It's been a while since I did this jeep, but what I read was three companies sent in their design on what they thought the jeep should be. They were Ford, Willys and I don't remember the other one. Ford had the best design and the government took the Ford design and gave it to Willys to produce. Ford built something like 250,000 and Willys built millions. Now I question the authenticity of the book I read because I do remember something about a Bantam Jeep. Jim
 
Take the starter to a repair shop and have it fixed.Some one who knows what they are doing will grab the right part without looking in books.
 
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