OT- Don't understand - venting !

Here is the deal....second wife and i after seven years are calling it quits. I'm not bashing her, lets just say we are like oil and water. I sold all my tractors and trailers ( NOT PAID FOR BY THAT MARRAIGE )to support her and her two teens and shall we say to help support this divorce. I took only my tools, my pick up, my cloths, she keeps house and everything else. I'm also paying her health insurance plus i'm taking care of all debt except mortgage. Now i'm on fixed income, she makes almost four times what i make and the court ordered me to pay her another 500 a month to help her, that makes 53% of my income going for her. Now divorce isn't final so who knows where this will go. I'm not trying to take anything from her or hurt her in anyway, that's not the way i am but i'm starting to run out of blood from all the sucking her and the courts are doing. Now just for the record, i'm may be an old dog, a little stupid, but i'm not all stupid and if you keep messing with me i'm going to bite you. I just try to do right by people and that's all i want in return. Just needed to vent cause for the life of me i just don't understand sometimes.
 
second go for both me andd the wife.Told her that before she said yes she better mean it for life because the only way she'd get out was in a box. 13 years in a couple weeks so I guess she took me serious.


Dave
 
El Toro, i have a question, where do you find a "GOOD LAWYER" ? I've been looking for years and i haven't even heard of a good lawyer let alone find one. LOL By the way, just kidding, i know what your saying, thank you and i was told the lawyer i have is a "GOOD ONE".
 
Sounds like your getting the shaft when she hasnt been getting the shaft from you.

Get a good lawyer...............Best advice I can give you.
 
Forget the "good lawyer," get one meaner than hers and one who is not intimidated by either her lawyer or the judge.
 
Sounds like you're better off in jail for non payment of alimony. Store all your stuff with a buddy, call the judge and tell him you're ready for your new apartment in the crowbar hotel until they change the terms of your divorce. You can bet they will make some major changes. Worked for different friends of mine, especially if they think you really mean it.
 
You're the male, Mike. That's why you loose. :>(

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I went thru that once. Never again, I don't care if we throw rocks at each other every day.

I WILL NOT go thru that divorce thing ever, ever again. No matter what.

Allan
 
All I have to say is should you decide to be foolish a third time get a prenuptual agreement BEFORE you ask her to marry you.

Like my sister said TRUST NO ONE
 
This is my take from my personal experience. Look out for yourself because nobody else is going to do it for you. Do not agree to terms that you don't feel are fair. Do not be intimidated by her or her lawyer. Stand your ground because if you don't, you will have nothing in the end. Just an observation, but if she makes 4 times what you do, it seems to me you should be the one getting paid alimony!!
 
Didn't need to convince me a second marrage wasn't a good idea after the first time my assets were cut in half. Would have been even more leary if there were potential step children. Sometimes men aren't listening to the thinking head. Been with this one for twenty+ years, never married, share expenses, and each have our own money and assets. No fights over money issues, don't have any problems with associated inlaws nor are required to attend her family related events. Has worked great for us.
 
hey mike, listen to the song by stompin' tom called luke's guitar. its kinda fittin and worth a laugh. i say keep the tractors!
 
sounds like me, and its not funny, this state is well known to favor the woman in court, and my first wife got a heck of a deal,i nearly came out like that old jerry reed song, after the divorce was finalized with her half amounting to 90% of the assets, i had the mater re tried by a different court after a year, and got shed of her, i did not recover any of my lost property or money but i did get any additional support on my part cut off, as her lawyer and her were cuddled up by then, [ imagine that lol] id advise talking to a attourney and seeing what he had to say about another hearing on the mater in your state, a "mean" attourney isnt nessessary just a good one, as what a attourney thinks in court doesnt mean spit, its the judge who makes those discisions, not the attourney
do insist on a different judge in the case
 
I helped establish a small support group that helps folks get on with their lives when all the world is on their shoulders. We try to give everyone some hope with out the very expensive opinion of a attorney. We strictly deal with Iowa, and certianly do not have all the answers, just a helpful insight of what has went down in our worlds when divorcing.

A good attorney is not worth a nickle unless YOU furnish him with details --not just a complaint--every freaking thing that you can think of in as much detail as possible must be written down, and typed in a very readable format.

Save yourself alot of money by placing this list on a spread sheet -- then your attorney can sort it down with what he wants to use. He needs facts sorted from opinions. You can also sort them after he reads them in the order he wants to use them----again this saves you money.

Be sure you write down every question you want to ask, as this avoids expensive clock time, while you sit and try to remember your questions.

Now you have lots of time on your hands, so why not spend alot of time visiting with others in your state that have wore your shoes? There is great comfort knowing some facts from the others. Peace of mind is out of the question for a while, but this extra information can be a comfort, and alow you to get a little more sleep.

I have always said that both parties should come up with a list for a fair settlement --your pile, my pile--then have the judge flip a coin to see who gets each pile. Seems it could be much more fair that way.

You well know that many judges still favor the ladies-- you can't change that, so get over it, and move on to damage control.

It is very difficult to deal with a person who you would have given your last drop of blood for, and now is spiting in your face--that is a tough one. And men need to know that the galls will tug on your heart strings to get the better deal. Don't blame them, just try to understand it.

Having a attorney that you feel is the best, and knowing the law, and facts, probably is the best comfort you can have at this point.

Judges are human, and I feel if they think you are trying to be fair, and reasonable, along with a friendly smile, WELL, this goes along way with combating a nice attractive lady as your court date comes around. Try to remain cool, and never loose your temper. Make your first round as good as you can---after the judge makes his order, it is expensive, and hard to reverse his decision in most cases.

When picking a attorney, remember the judge has a opinion of him also from past cases--if he is a jerk, and unreasonable who do you think he will favor? He needs to be on his toes, and polite so the judge does not try to defend your wife from your bad butt attorney.

And last but not least, when you know a fact that will help you win, shut yer mouth (VERY HARD TO DO AT TIMES) regardless how much fun it would be to tell her your plan of attact---keep it a surprise so she can not prepare for the questions.

If you feel there is any chance of problems, avoid contact with her, and if so, make sure there are nuteral witnesses. Yea, you know of some folks that got the shaft from getting to close to the bees nest before.

I suppose speaking a lie has worked in a court room, but once the judge knows you lied, then every word you have said, or will say, is a big question mark in the judges eyes.

Results may vary, and I wish you luck, and a chance for you to get some rest.
 
My late brother went through this 3 times. The fourth wife died and he died when married to the fifth wife. One big difference he never had anything of value. When he got paid on Friday he was broke on Monday. One thing he did have was his health insurance. Even his dental was covered. If he needed a crown they paid for it. He never own any property. He worked for a major super market for over 35 years and spent 4 years before that in the Air Force. Hal
 
Thats too bad.Best thing to do is fight as hard as you can,with as good of a lawyer as you can.

You are still going to loose,but at least you can say you fought as hard and with as good of a lawyer as you could and maybe you will be satisfied.You wont like it if you give in and give up.Men dont work that way.

Sounds like she is just going to get everything she can from you so you have to get just like her.Watch the movie War of the Roses a couple of times and you will understand it then.Thats about the best thing I can tell you is watch the War of the Roses and take it almost that far.Just dont tear up any property or get physically violent.Thats too far,plus dont talk to her because they might try and trap you.Whatever you say to her watch out because they could be recording it or something or especially if somebody else is a witness,watch what you say.They would love to throw you in jail for threatening her or get a restraining order on you because it will look good for them in court,if they can ruin your reputation.You will hear a bunch of stuff that will make you mad,just dont get mad around her.
 
I second the prenup. I've never been there, I'll be married to the same gal for 45 years next month, but if anything happened to her, I'd have a he11 of a prenup agreement in place IF I decided to marry again.
 

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