OT Hazing

What is hazing? It is on the news about a football team & coaches etc.

Physical or mental abuse designed to be a rite of admission to a club, team, fraternity/sorority, or unit. It is basically unacceptable dangerous and against policy. It has caused deaths, and mental distress. Beatings, Wearing inappropriate clothes, being subjected to crewl acts and other bizarre behaviors. (I was mild in my description) Jim

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazing">Hazing</a>, based on the definition by [b:654c4848f0]Janicholson[/b:654c4848f0], is what I endured during my <s>failed</s> first marriage.

I think it's part of the institution of marriage, it can be felt on my second.

ThankS, Jim. No wonder the news didn"t discribe what it was.

Its not necessarily just the "over the top" stuff- can be benign, like feeding blindfolded "greenhorn" FFA members cold spaghetti but telling them its worms, putting someone in a barrel and rolling down a small hill, zapping cattle prods around in the air and then sticking the kid with it and imitating the sound with your mouth but not actually giving a shock, etc. I think my FFA initiation in 1963 was the last one- at least, I don't recall getting to return the favor the next year.

(quoted from post at 18:22:59 08/27/10) Physical or mental abuse designed to be a rite of admission to a club, team, fraternity/sorority, or unit. It is basically unacceptable dangerous and against policy. It has caused deaths, and mental distress. Beatings, Wearing inappropriate clothes, being subjected to crewl acts and other bizarre behaviors. (I was mild in my description) Jim

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But hazing is the basis for training in the U.S. military.

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(quoted from post at 18:22:59 08/27/10) Physical or mental abuse designed to be a rite of admission to a club, team, fraternity/sorority, or unit. It is basically unacceptable dangerous and against policy. It has caused deaths, and mental distress. Beatings, Wearing inappropriate clothes, being subjected to crewl acts and other bizarre behaviors. (I was mild in my description) Jim

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But hazing is the basis for training in the U.S. military.

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Part of the military bit is simply physical, ie they're just getting you into shape but you are right, they try to break you down mentally too. The idea is to get every one thinking on the same page, I guess it's a bit of a necessary evil.

That being said I think those who sign up for an armed service know that's part of the process. I don't think you need to be hazed to join a club or play a sport or anything for that matter.

Our FFA initiation was much the same......in 1958. Last thing they did was to blindfold us, load us up in a school bus and drive us around for the better part of an hour. We were put off the bus about 10:00 P.M. and told we could remove our blindfolds and find our way back to the AG building on campus. We were all country boys; it was a blacktop road with no streetlights, there were no radio station or cell phone towers, no traffic.......nothing to tell where we were. The town where the school was had about 3,000 residents, a couple of traffic lights and most folks were in bed by 10:00. We huddled together and tried to decide which way to go; we finally walked about 100 yds to the nearest house and knocked on the door 'til the resident got up and came to the door in his underwear. The bravest amongst us told him we were lost and asked if he knew where Ripley, TN was........that we were trying to find the High School. He looked at us like we were total fools and said that the school was about a half mile 'that way'. If today's 13/14 year olds were treated like that, there'd be a lawsuit; we thought it was great fun and couldn't wait for our turn.

Rent Animal House or REvenge of the Nerds II and you'll get to see some tamed down hazing.

Yes, like some freshmen members of the Carmel. In.High School baskeball this past year had foreign objects stuck up their butts on more than one occasion by by 4 senior team members.One occasion happened on the team bus as the team returned from an away game. There is a good chance the 4 will receive prison sentences.

Yeah Kopeck,
The military basic train is all about getting control over the guys so that they can handle and train them. One thing that I learned was to try to stay in the middle of the group so that you wouldn't be noticed but for me going to basic with two of the blackest eyes a person could have didn't help any. As in hey spots come here. ) Anyway basic training was a good experience for me.

Are you referring to the football team in Elk River, MN? Sticking broomhandles in younger players butts. I don"t agree about the comments below regarding hazing in basic training, (that was harrassment, not hazing) but the "prop blast" ceremony for paratroopers, which is now outlawed, was hazing, just like the practice of making newbies wear their "blood wings" without the backing (ie, just points of the parachute badge going through the shirt, to the skin) and the older ones would press on them, making you bleed. In my day, "blood wings" were those we got at the drop zone graduation ceremony, and were saved to give to "your best girl". Expect my daughter, who graduated last January, will save hers for her "best guy". My better half has had my original wings for 40 years, daughter will inherit them, and her sisters understand that it"s ok for dad to have two "best girls".