O/T Air brakes, truck mechanics help!

toolz

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I built me a little FL70 Freightliner to pull my gooseneck, but now I want a heavier trailer. FL70 was a box truck, I shortened it up and mounted a hauler bed with a 5th wheel. Truck has air ride and air brakes, but not for a trailer. I want a drop deck with air brakes, so I need to add the stuff to the truck for that. I've looked at a few diagrams, and I have the hand valve and red/yellow brake valves for the cab. I know I'll need a tractor protection valve. Have any of you done this before? Doesn't look easy, so any help and advise would be appreciated.
 
Toolz
Best bet would be to take it to your local friendly Frateshaker dealer, or any big truck shop. Not difficult, but too complicated to try to explain here. They have all the tubing, hoses, fittings etc on hand, & know how to do it right.
Brakes are too important to make mistakes installing.
Willie
diesel pilot-retired.
 
One time a guy applied for a job working on trucks. Boss said I need some to work on air brake, do you know about them? Guy said yes. Boss said well, just explain to me how they work. Guy said sure, when you mash them they go shhhhh, an when you take you foot off they go tshhhh, tshhhh.
 
willie is right if the truck was ordered as a straight truck new, it will not have the trailer brake stuff on it, it can be installed, but it needs to be done by a qualified truck mechanic , theres more plumbing to it than the brake valve and the trolly handle
 
I am a qualified truck mechanic, certified Master at one time. I'm well aware that it's not a quick job- just looking for a bit of advice from someone who's done it before. I will do it either way.
 
Hey, Jim- Did you go to Havana today? I went down to Butler with the big tractor, got 4 hooks and placed in a couple of classes. Muddy and hot down there, but a fun pull. Probably won't pull the old tractors again till Manito and Delavan. Not much season left...
 
never dune it before but wants you know how it all works I don't think it's that big a deal.I modified all the trailer brake valves on a b train.I did get all the info from the guy who did the safties and he walked me through it when I needed help.
 
It needs a tractor protection valve installed and if you get a diagram from a single screw tractor and the diagram for the straight truck it should all make sense.

The tractor protection valve is what gives the trailer the air supply and protects the truck in the event of a break away. The hand valve assy is tied into the TP valve system.

The added supply valve for the trailer is also tied into tractor protection.

Sorry I can't be of more help but it has been many years since I changed one and I used the books from our IH Shop to get through it.
 
Is your FL70 new enough to have ABS brakes ? If you buy a newer air brake trailer it will come with ABS brakes.Youll need to wire them up as well as hook up air. The best advice I can give you is to check with a FL dealer or HD brake parts house. They should have diagrams of plumbing that would show required valves , and routing so your system will work properly. If its a Freightliner with ABS brakes its probably Meritor ABS but you need to check all that out. May be cheaper to buy a single axle tractor and sell your hauler. Or try to find a FL70 or similar truck plumbed /wired for air brakes and use it as a guide. Good luck.
 
I would suggest that you get diagrams to install system without hand valve. with a converted FL70, and a goose neck, you could be asking for trouble trying to use a hand control. A lot of full size semi's are being made that way now.
 
I've been reading the Bendix air brake handbook online, it has diagrams and a lot of info. It looks like a bit of busy work plumbing everything up, but adding the trailer capability to my existing air brake system doesn't look real complicated. My truck is a '97, so no ABS, and I will probably end up with an older trailer- can't justify a newer pretty one for a hobby! Would like to find one with a dovetail and ramps, but can fab that if I have to. If anyone knows of a decent 45-50 footer for sale under $7500, I would be interested, and my 45' gooseneck is for sale. Thanks for the help.
 
I would not atempt to do it UNLESS I could go to the local truck salvage yard find a unit and get the parts. You mentinoned only the two big parts. You will find it is the little things that will drive you crazy and cost a arm and leg if purchased new seperately..
 
Do you have a big enough engine and heavy enough drive line to pull a bigger trailer? Need at least 350 hp and 10 speed in my opinion to pull a 45 ft trailer.
 

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