Hydraulic Hose Repair

Hi, I"m having and problem finding replacement hydraulic hose for my 1841 Industrial which just blew a front end loader hose. Dealer can not find the loader model 19-131 in the parts manual at all. The hose is part metal with multiple bends and a few feet of hose with #14 JCS (?) connectors. An independent shop could only offer a longer piece of hose, but the hose will not bend tight enough diameter to work. It has to come off the bottom of the loader control panel and up forward to the right side loader arm.

Anyone have suggestions who can make a hydraulic hose with metal tubing and hose?

Thanks for any assistance.

Try Motion Industries or Colliflower Inc at 410-686-1200. Hal
PS: I would call another dealer to see if they can find it.

Most Auto & Truck parts stores other than stores like Auto Zone can make up hydraulic hoses that you need. Just take the old ones along with the steel ends with you & most can make them on the spot for you. Keith

Finding someone that makes up hard lines is getting harder and harder anymore around my neck of the woods. The local shop we use spent big bucks on a bender several years back, and sent a guy to be trained to use it. Not too long afterwards he quit and with no one trained to use it and not much of a call for hard lines to be made ip it very rarely gets used anymore.

My suggestion to you would be that unless it has alot of really tight or complex bends just to get yourself an inexpensive bender of some sort and just get your local shop to get you a piece of tube the right size. A #14 JIC equals a 5/8 size but measure the tube and wall thickness to insure you get the right thing just in case the fittings and tube aren"t the same, which is a common occurance. Withparts on hand fill the tube with a fairely fine sand to keep it from collapsing and bend it like you want it. It isn"t quite as easy as it sounds but it can be done, especially with the smaller, thinner walled tube like is commonly used on farm equipment.
If the tube has flared ends a flaring tool for JIC fittings is made but it"s not really cheap. Your best bet would be to get the shop to order you fittings that silver solder/braze on the ends of the tube as the cost of the fitting and solder. Unfortunately a roll of a 93/7 silver solder isn"t cheap but at least it would get you going. Good luck.

P------Just make dang sure you clean the tube out completely when your done bending it as you can imagine sand and hydraulic equipment do not mix well....

If the hole is in the hose,cut off the tube as close to the hose as possible and have a hose made with a compression fitting that fits the steel line. If the tube has a pin hole or crack it can be brazed.

#14 JIC is a 7/8" fitting size.

#10 is 5/8"

Here is what I would try.

#14 hose is not really a standard size, #14 is 7/8" I would go down to a 3/4"hose size which is #12, (very common size) And use the 3/4" JIC swivel hose connections. You will likely have to buy a #14 to #12 tube reducer fitting to connect to the panel you are talking about.

A place that sells auto parts, truck and tractor parts like a NAPA,Car Quest,ORiellys,or something like that usually makes hydraulic lines.You can probably get a line made cheaper than you can cobble something up.You might have to drive a ways to find a place that makes the lines.

If that's a suction line, which I would assume it is given it's a # 14 fitting.... I would NOT reduce the size. That's plenty small now. If necessary just get some suction line and use barb fittings and hose clamps.
On the offchance that this is a pressure line, then this would not apply. In that case I'd think that a #10 or #12 line would be plenty big.

Rod

I had a steel line blow that would have required me to remove the whole hyd. tank and most of the lines on my track loader to get it out. It had some tight bends that couldn't be made with a hose or standard fittings. What I did was cut the line with a small hacksaw to get it out. Then I had the complex bent piece cut off behind the rupture and reflared for JIC. I also had the other end on the steel line cut and reflared. I then used 2 pieces of hose with a 90 deg. fitting to join the 2 repaired steel lines together. I made the hose follow the same path that the steel line took. Unless it's really tight bends, a hyd. specialty shop should be able to make you up a new steel line. I had one made and although I had to use a threaded elbow to make it work, It only cost about $30 total for a 3/4" line. Cat wanted a totally ridiculous price for the new line with a silver soldered elbow. Maybe you could use part fittings and part hose to make a new line? A good hydraulic shop will have lots of different fittings. Dave

Where ya at? In southern Michigan, I have a neighbor that does steel lines and the hose.

Thanks, but I"m in Northern VA.

Found a Colliflower in MD, 30 minutes away, so I'll call them.

Yep, just confirmed. It is a pressure line, and the steel tube OD is 7/8", and the number on the hose is '2 wire SAE 100R2'. The hole is in the rubber hose section.

Interesting idea. The hole is in the rubber section. I'll search the web see if compression fittings come in 7/8" size to fit the pipe. In case something has to be cobbled together.
Thanks everyone for ideas and information.

They do very good work. You may be able to have it made while you wait. Hal
PS: Be sure to take all of the old hose & tubing.

Find a Gates hose dealer. Gates has fittings that can be welded onto the steel line and then crimp a new hose onto it and new fitting on the other end.

They call that double braided for extra high pressure. Hal

7/8 is an industrial size- farm dealers don"t usually handle those. Had the same thing on my 4500 Ford TLB recently. Since the line was all steel, I welded a sleeve over it. You might need to find a shop that does construction equipment.

I work in Chantilly Virginia have you tried Tipco (thomas industrial products company)They make a lot of hyd hoses for the company i work for.

Hi All,

Just to close the loop, the solution was to cut the 7/8" steel pipe close at the bad hose crimp, use a compression fitting on the pipe and add a new section of hose and new connector on the other end. TIPCO didn"t have the parts, but Colliflower in Balt did, fixed it right up, and did a great job. Installed yesterday. Looks good too!

Thanks everyone for your help.