Saving seed for next years crop

ryanwheelock · Apr 15, 2010

I'm wondering what kinds of grains/seeds farmers save out of there crop and use for next years seed. Corn? I know that some corn is hybrid and I think if replanted doesnt produce as much? Will it still get some bushels per acre? Is all corn now days that is sold to co-ops hybrid?
Are oats hybrid?? Could a oat crop be planted and save a small part for next years seed year after year after year????
Thanks
Ryan

paul · Apr 15, 2010

Oats & wheat is commonly saved. There are getting to be legal issues as far as licences & such, but most allow you to save your own seed for yourself only.

Non-gmo soybeans can often be saved for your own use, but there is a tangle of laws & licences that make this difficult any more legally. The common gmo beans are off-limits legally.

Corn is mostly all hybred and will not produce much corn in most areas. Hybred offspring are 'uknown' as to what they will produce, so you might get a 1/2 a crop, but you might not. As well there are the licencing issues, legally.

There is 'open pollenated' corn still around that yeilds fairly well if this is just for fun, and you can save the seed for next year. You'll have to search out the smaller/ organic type seed dealers for this. You can hope for perhaps 3/4 of a hybred yield on average?

--->Paul

71ford100 · Apr 15, 2010

A hybrid corn crop that is the F2 generation would result in some funky plants because of the different alleles. A parent generation was crossed to result in the hybrid F1 all of which basically have the same genetics. Crossing an F1 plant with another F1 plant could result in at least three different genotypes per gene (homozygous dominant, heterzoygous dominant, and homozygous recessive, excluding imcomplete dominance and all that jazz.)

Most wheat farmers here save back seed for next year unless its about the same cost wise to buy new seed.

olgentdc · Apr 15, 2010

ever heard of MONSANTO ?. SAVE SOME OSEED AND YOU MAY HEAR FROM THEM... realsupr d--ks

Too Far Gone · Apr 15, 2010

screw monsanto!

Too Far Gone · Apr 15, 2010

You can save back all the non GMO seed you want too,but the round up ready stuff they have a monopoly on and can sue.I save and clean soybeans (Clarks,Williams,Hamiltons),which are public varieties.They still yield 30-40 bushel.Everybody saves wheat around here

Don-Wi · Apr 15, 2010

We save our oats on a regular basis. Not sure how many years our current oats have been replanted, but I think we're 5 or 6 years off certified now. Comes up just as good, with an excellent reduction in price.

We clean the oats ourselves, and occasionally sell some too.

Donovan from Wisconsin

billonthefarm · Apr 15, 2010

Many non gmo varities of soybeans are protected by patents also which may not allow you to save them either. Not a well known fact but true.
bill

olgentdc · Apr 15, 2010

Where are you with those williams beans ???

railhead · Apr 15, 2010

agree w/all that

greygoat · Apr 16, 2010

How are the seed companies going to know ? Are
there "seed police" crusin the back roads and
stopping to check the planter seed box's ?
Are the seed dealers watching and phoneing
Monsato, or Pioneer and saying "better send the
seed police to check "farmer Joe", he didn't
buy from me this spring!

rockyridgefarm · Apr 16, 2010

Hey Greygoat,

You hit it exactly on the head. Farmers and dealers are encouraged to rat out their neighbors and customers if they think seed is being saved. Monsanto then sues them and blacklists them if they think they're breaking their patents. I've seen the blacklist at work.

Ask a fellow named Moe Parr from Indiana how Monsanto goes about keeping their patented seed from being reused.

Rootsy · Apr 19, 2010

Yes, Mother M will send representatives out to spot check crops in the field for the RR gene...

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