O/T Broken water line help...

IHMANKY · Apr 4, 2010

Frost-free hydrant by farrowing house has cracked, and we've spent countless hours prodding around, searching with a metal detector, and reminiscing about where this old water line ran exactly, but still no luck. It's deep enough under the lane that we don't care to dig, because the shutoff is somewhere between there and about 40 yards up, and if we try it with a trackhoe, we'll cause more problems than we got. Simple thing is, if we can break the line just before the hydrant, and glue on another valve in between the line and hydrant. My question is, is there a pipe glue for pvc that will adhere when applied wet? The line is gravity fed, around a 30 foot drop so talking 15 psi or less. If we could "wet glue" the line side, we could always close the valve and dry glue the hydrant side. Anyone glued wet pipe with any success before, and if so, what's the product?

JMOR · Apr 4, 2010

(quoted from post at 22:55:24 04/04/10) Frost-free hydrant by farrowing house has cracked, and we've spent countless hours prodding around, searching with a metal detector, and reminiscing about where this old water line ran exactly, but still no luck. It's deep enough under the lane that we don't care to dig, because the shutoff is somewhere between there and about 40 yards up, and if we try it with a trackhoe, we'll cause more problems than we got. Simple thing is, if we can break the line just before the hydrant, and glue on another valve in between the line and hydrant. My question is, is there a pipe glue for pvc that will adhere when applied wet? The line is gravity fed, around a 30 foot drop so talking 15 psi or less. If we could "wet glue" the line side, we could always close the valve and dry glue the hydrant side. Anyone glued wet pipe with any success before, and if so, what's the product?

ust use a screw type compression fitting & be done with it.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 4, 2010

put a few slices of bread up the line dry itoff glue it the bread will melt go a way we have used this on 3 in line

Erik Ks farmer · Apr 4, 2010

Maybe that this is a simple question, but why not turn it off at the meter temporaty while you fix it up?

Russ from MN · Apr 4, 2010

I think they make a sharkbite (TM) fitting that would fit, they work better wet!

kyhayman · Apr 4, 2010

If its that low pressure I'd fix up a new hydrant and then dig it out, set the new one, and use a compression fitting. I dont like them on high pressure lines but for low pressure they work well.

newbie haymaker · Apr 5, 2010

I agree with previous post about the shark bites. They are the best way to repair any wet line. They use an oring like the utility company use on the water mains. Alitlle pricey but the best trouble free way to repair any pipe. Be sure to deburr the ends of the pipes so you dont nick the oring. Good luck.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 5, 2010

If you can reach the intake line carve yourself a wood plug to fit inside the line push it in 2 or 3'' when it swells it may stop the flow,if not it will slow it down to where at least you don't have to work with the full flow.

John Harmon · Apr 5, 2010

Depeending on the pipe size there are compression fittings for PVC pipe.Would work for wet pipe.Check out HD or a Plumber Supply co,

Big M · Apr 5, 2010

The glue is blue and called Rain or Shine. I have used it many times.

reddog848 · Apr 5, 2010

Seems like everyone gave you a answer except for what you asked!! Yes there is a PCV glue for wet applications and you can get it at any hardware store. I use Oatley brand and it works very well. There are many other brands so just ask for it at the store.
Fred

IHMANKY · Apr 5, 2010

Thanks fellas... I will try the glue.. I usually use that oatley glue myself, never checked on the wet capability, will see how it goes I guess!

Anonymous-0 · Apr 5, 2010

You may not believe this, but two bags of ice and ten pounds of salt will freeze the line for you and make it alot less messy to work on.

The biggest I ever seen it work on is 2", but I doubt if yours is over 3/4 any way.

Another tip I've learned is to dig a deeper hole along side of your repair so the excess water drains off in to the pit instead of having to work in wet conditions.

Regardless what you use, make sure you use sand paper to clean it up good first, shark bite or glue, or compression.

I have also learned that straight Okatey PVC cement works better than multi purpose glue if it is PVC. If by chance it is the CPVC, then you have to use multi purpose glue. And Always use a cleanner, that is almost as important as the glue.

buickanddeere · Apr 5, 2010

Freezing a line works well enough.
We freeze pipework up to 24" dia in the nuclear industry. If we have to isolate a valve,pump etc that doesn't have another type of barrier.

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