OT/where to go

Seriously,this medical marijuana garbage here in Michigan is about the last straw. This crap is so vague that anybody can get a license to grow and use it,and believe me,they're coming out of the woodwork to take advantage of it.

Where,preferably in the southern part of the US,and be fairly specific with state and counties,can a person go with a pocket full of money,and semi retire on a small farm?

I'm talking someplace very rural,where folks still have morals and values,where everybody depends on a rural and small town lifestyle. I don't want to be within an hour of a city. What I'm looking for is just a general store nearby,or at most a town with a grocery,a hardware,one restaurant,gas station,auto parts store and a few churches. All this somewhere not so clanish that I'd be shot for going there.

Anybody got any serious ideas?

Google, Falkland Islands..........

Not quite what I had in mind. Probably have to look again down southeast of where Old is. Southern Mo,Mansfield/Hartville area,over to Salem,down to Winonna,Willow Springs,West Plains,over to Gainesville. We were about set to go there 10 years ago and it just kinda fell through. Gonna just have to go back with the check book I guess if somebody doesn't know of a place even better'n that.

I moved from NY to Iowa to raise a family just because of similar issues. Want the small town morals for my kids. I've been here ten years now, and although it's still very much to my liking, I can see things changing. I live an hour away from work just because I don't even want the small city crap bleeding over into my happy little rural world. I don't know if there is a place like you are talking about anymore, and if there is, I don't know how long it will last. I'm half tempted to say grow it, get rich off of it and use the money to fully retire on that farm you're hoping to find in your little slice of heaven.

The place you describe sounds like either the Isle of Gurnsey, Jersey, or maybe even the Orkney Islands. Jersey and Guernsey Islands used to not allow motorized vehicles on the roads. Don't know if that's changed or not.

You may try the Texas Panhandle. Not much going on and miles and miles of Texas. Can get cool sometimes in winter and someplaces need irrigation to grow a crop.

Fellow I met at Vista, California tractor show about 12 years ago while I was living in California had just left southern California when urban sprawl forced him out of the LA basin area went to south central Missouri to retire and bought a nice little farm there. Saw him about 8 years ago at another tractor show in Springfield, Ohio and he said so far he was pretty satisfied he had made a good choice. You must know by now that no state in America is immune from the influences of the power of the abundant, lying, immoral, socialist leaning influences that seem to be making steady progress gaining control of our country. I've been back in Michigan (my old home state) over 10 years now and for the last 6 years or so it has been in steady decline...But, when I consider how badly California has declined in this same period I don't feel like my choice to return here was too bad....If I was to move now I think I would try Oklahoma or southern Missouri, all things considered.

Neat thing about Iowa is that you still have some say in how government is run. You can get to know your county board of supervisors personally. I live in Polk county which includes Des Moines, but I have an acreage out in the "unincorporated" part. Son-in-Law picked up our telephone and accidentally dialed 911. Less than two minutes later, here comes a deputy. While my embarressed SIL was 'splainin' things, another deputy drove up. Heck, he is a personal friend of ours and laughed it off. That is one advantage to living in a more populated area. BTW, our school district still has a Christmas pageant with carols, tree, the whole bit. Thats because we all know our local school board! We rarely go to Des Moines for ANYTHING. And our roads get better maintenance than anywhere in the city.

Uncle Tom Cabin in California ( look it up on the map it there. Small way back in the woods has a hand pump gas station and grill plus small grocery store all in one little building. OH its only open in the Summer. But quiet up there. good fishing and hunting too.
Walt

Sounds like he went right where we wre going to go. Probably bought one of the farms we looked at. Real nice cattle country around there. Seemed to be a super conservative area. Most realtors we talked to around there didn't seem to think that any major development would ever happen there in their lifetimes. Nothing there to really attract anybody who wasn't looking to live the way the locals always had.
Kinda wondered if there was something worth finding in Kentucky or Tennessee,but haven't found it yet in a major way the way southern Missouri is.

Its not that good of a place.If you need a good hospital you have to go to Columbia or Kansas City.I dont know what you are looking for,pasture land,want to grow crops,some kind of place where there is good fishing?I mean describe better what you are looking for.Going South once you get past Sedalia there is not much but poor to fair pastureland in the Central part.Now over by Lamar there seems to be some fair farmland but you would have to study it real well to see if its what you want.By being from up in decent farmland this low quality pasture land might be disappointing.
Also its kind of fun to joke around about hillbillies and stuff,but there are places down south in Missouri that they get kinda bad.I mean unless you have been to Arkansas and stayed there a couple of days and seen what people joke about as far as hillbillies,it might not be your ideal place to live.There are good places everywhere too.Good farming ground close to rivers,but it also floods a lot here.Lots of people come here,buy some land and build a house close to a creek or river somewhere and after a while it gets flooded.If you raise livestock you probably need to get up by the Missouri river.Land prices will be higher but grass land will feed 2 or 3 or more times the cattle as down south.There is some real good cropland close to the Missouri river and the Mississippi River but it wont be cheap.
Plus we are probably more Southern than you are used to.If you have a New England accent you are going to stick out around here.Plus there is a good hunk of the state thats hilly and there are even low mountains kid of down by Salem.That is some hilly country and the roads arent the best,but if you look good you might find some good farmland.Good farmland for the most part is further north.Way up in the north east part its kind of hilly there too but roads are better than way down south and they arent great.

Missouri is a big State.There is definitely something for everybody here.You may need to look hard to find it,but its around here someplace.

About that Southern stuff.I dont talk anything like I write on this forum.I went to a country school and learned my reading and writing and stuff but I have a definite southern way of talking.Everybody here does.Im only 120 miles from Iowa and they call me a hick from Missouri but Im 160 miles from Branson.I dont think people from the deep south would call me a Yankee but they have a different way of talking than we do up here.I know by driving a truck there is a lot of difference in the way people talk.I about needed a translater to talk to people from Iowa sometimes and listening to the CB in Minnesota is painful to me sometimes.They talk so fast and are say stuff so backwards its kind of like a foreign language.Closer to Canada the worse it gets,EH?

I have just the place. Its in the country, has
a 3 bedroom house, large shop, and 5.5 acres. Just 4 miles from a small town in southwest Iowa. 100 miles from Des Moines and Omaha. Its for sale.

Well, if you need to sell your place in Michigan to get that "pocket full of money", you might be dissapointed with what your Michigan property sells for.

Well...I didn't say DEEP pockets full of money.

I would check out western and central South Dakota, Western and Central Nebraska or Western and Central Kansas.

Realtors and locals have been pretty straight with us in south central Mo. The only place we were ever warned to stay away from was the Salem Arkansas area.
We found out the hard way about Jefferson County Mo. Got chased out of there one night all the way to the county line. That's WAY to close to St Louis for our liking though.
About as near to a little slice of heaven as we've been is Wright County. Not a thing in the world wrong with Texas County,Dent,Douglas or Ozark either. Shannon County was a little too rugged for my taste. More timber land there than anything else,but a toutist area,so they don't really have a problem with outsiders. At least not that we were able to notice. Unless they were just waiting for us to spend our last dime.

We don't worry too much about the potheads. They're pretty harmless. They just sit around all day and get baked and not smart and it makes it easier for the rest of us non pot heads to get jobs!

Ya,Billincolorado was telling me about western Kansas. Said there was some real nice cattle counrty out there.

Of all things wrong with this state, I would rank medical pot pretty low on the list. Anyway, if you're trying to get away from pot growers and pot smokers, you're gonna be disappointed when you move down south. They do love their dope in Dixie!

If you ask them to describe the word "abundant" and then spell it and they can't do either....Load up and GO THERE!!! They are killing the country and don't have a clue. Don't get me going.

I"d rather live next to a pot head than a drunk.
Pot heads don"t start fights and kill people on the road.There"s no place any better than where
you are.That"s life.

Not over here. There's a group of'em that have formed a "compassion club". What a joke. They're nothing but a drug gang. A-holes are running around acting like tough guys,intimidating anybody that dares cross the rotten b@stards. It's gonna lead to violence real soon if they don't tone it down. They're abusing this lack of laws even worse than Kovorkian abused the whole suicide thing.
Cropsey says they're working on it,but part of it depends on what Washington does,but with the current administration,federal laws are likely to start to go their way.
They've got a so called "doctor" in Grand Rapids who'll give you a prescription just for being unemloyed and these freaks are taking advantage of it. They've got a "club house" where they go and pass it around. That's illegal,but they've done it right on the news on channel 8 and nobody's busted them. The city of Greenville has gone so far as pass an emergency ordinance to get them out of town. It's getting real ugly over here.

No,the paranoid sonzabichez kill people WALKING in the road in front of their place from fear that somebody's gonna steal their stash.

What is funny is that 3 months ago a guy near me worked on my car, (he has a home garage shop--cash only) and when I went to pick up my car they invited me into the house to look at a hunting rifle and a buck on the wall and the house reeked of just burned marijuana....real bad too. I kept my mouth shut.

This married couple are probably in their early 50s. His wife is "disabled" Yeah right....Walks and talks normally as far as I can tell. She might be classified as disabled for smoking so much weed that she cant think clearly and get a job.
I agree that the medical weed argument is BS. It is all about being able to be a dope smoker and not get busted while smoking.

They were on the front page of our local paper today with their so-called "compassion clubs" located in a rented store front. We'll see how long this stuff goes before someone gets really toasted and something bad happens. So far the law is so cloudy that no one seems to know for sure what is legal. Another example of the clear-headed thinking we're geting out of Lansing.
Paul

I have a buddy that worked in texas , He was fed up .Said he was putting a taco on the hood of his truck and driving north till someone asked him what it was ?lol

Kentucky and Tennessee are the top two states for growing illegal marijuana. With the many meth labs bust going on I would say we are close to the top meth manufacturing also.
Do other states have the meth problem also?

not southern however western montana (sanders county is live and let live however the sheriff (a friend) tolorates no drugs or weird stuff.

Ask Wolf, he travels the state now. I traveled for several years but not lately. I think if you stay on the western side of the area you described, and you'd be fine. Anywhere from old's house south or west to the Kansas, Arkansas, or Oklahoma borders. It can get kind of rough over towards Salem. Meth is everywhere, though.

You do what you want but, as you are aware every community has its problems.
That being said I live about an hour drive away from Hartville Missouri and I would really like to live there and I grew up here but was gone for 40 years. If I were doing it over again that is where I'd be. Its a beautiful area and the town itself can't be beat. It has just about everything you might expect/need in a small town plus lots of friendly folks. If I didn't have all this property here I'd be there in a heart beat and am still not sure I won't. Good luck in whatever you decide......

How about Fantasy Land!

I think you just described the "club house" where these dopers hang out.

I emailed my state senator about it. The response was pretty much that all of it is illegal at the same time that it's all legal. Nobody knows what to enforce and what not to. He said they're working on clarification,but couldn't give me a timeline on when anything would be final.
He said the only thing that they can DEFINATELY get them on is driving under the influance. Said the tolerance is 0.0% and that it stays in their bloodstream for at least 72 hours,so if they drive and get pulled over within 72 hours of using it,they can and will loose their drivers license.

We looked at the McCoy Hereford Ranch out east and south of town back in 2000. Beautiful place! We could have bought it back then for $450,000. That was the one that got away. Looked at a nice one the year before just south of Ben Davis. That was another super place that I'll be kicking myself over for the rest of my life.

Purty laid back up here in Maine,lotsa room. Hoss

I live south of where you're talking about, close to Mt Home, AR. Mt Home is pretty much a town of immigrants (mostly from Chicago area, but quite a few lately from Fla, and a few from Calif) and is a pretty diverse and welcoming town-really kind of unique for Ark. A lot of the other towns are pretty clique-ish until they get to know you, especially folks from up north. Unfortunately, land prices have been on a big rise for the last ten years, but things have cooled down a little here lately. I think we have a great hospital in Mt Home, but I'm prejudiced since I work there.

Pick up your Bible every day and search the scriptures and strive to follow them. You will learn that you are not going to get away from these problems on this earth. You will realize that your time on this earth is very short. There is a perfect place that lasts forever and these people that you resent can't go there.

Send me an e-mail and I will fill you in.
The county I live in is retirement, farm heaven No State income tax and 4 real season, Wonderfull people..Picked as one of the top 5 counties in us to retire in. Low taxes and cheap living. My family ownes about 4400 acres in
Henry,Sewart ,and Weakley county Tn. Farming, Trucking, Tractor dealership, construction and whatever.. Bring you money and come on to heaven..

Sounds like downstate is really going down the toilet. Come on UP.

My sister sold her house up the road from me in Central NY and moved to Missouri 7 years ago. She is about 40 mi east of Springfield - Webster County. She has talked about selling out and moving to Ohio or Western Pa. for a few years now. Summers are too hot and humid,occaisonal tornado warnings and many more bugs(Ticks,chiggers etc)make summer there not so enjoyable. They do like the lower taxes and easier winters , bottom line is no place is problem free, you have to pick one with problems you can put up with.

i like your faith pat well said al

I have 120 acres of farmland in south central South Dakota I would sell....pretty conservative area out there. Make me an offer.....

Been 20 years, but I loved it in Missouri. Lived in two towns near the Fort (Dixon and Newburg) and would love to go back. If it wasn't for the wife and all the animals, I had an offer to go back 2 years ago.

OTH, C'mon over here... Not as wide open as you're used to, but peaceful. Little farm place down the street for sale right next to the church. Catholic Church, but you don't have any little boys so nothing to worry about. Plenty to do to enjoy retirement. :lol:

Dave

I disagree you better check agian many people have been convicted of dui and manslauter for being under the influence of marijuana and killed someone on the road and they swear they never even seen the person or the car. Smoking before or while driving is still dui thats not just for alcohol.

All of those places are right hilly.Up a little further north around Jefferson City is where Old is from if I remember right.You might want to look at that area.Its not quite as hilly as way down there but its hilly.You might like up around Mexico or Macon,Missouri.Its more flat and maybe the ground is better so you could grow crops if you wanted to.Lots of Mennonites or Amish around there and on down south from there to around Tipton and Versailles to even around Springfield kind of through that area is a lot of Mennonites or Amish.Over by Carrolton there are Mennonites or Amish.Even all the way up into Iowa in that general area around 65 highway there are places with Mennonites and Amish.