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john richard

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Well I posted the message about the Kubota 4x4 and was willing to tell all to help... I guess that some KNOW IT ALL"S insist on kicking you even if you are down.. Sorry e.c. if the shoe fits I"ll wear mine, how about you?
 

Don't let the village idiots get you down. Some folks have to put others down cause they're insecure with themselves.
Let's see if anyone gets defensive now :lol:

Dave
 
I won't kick you. Just get up and try it again. Some day you might actually find that "I can't believe it's that cheap" bargain. It happens. Really.

Jim
 
you'll recognize the kickers they hardly ever have a name they're willing to use other than a screen name
 
If I was too flippant, I apologize. It's just that I've gotten awfully cynical in my old age.
 
It's just too bad you didn't place a question on these forums before you wired any money. By you posting on here as to what will happen will prevent others from doing the same. Hal
 
when you buy something unseen, you can send a small deposit. You can also hire a local expert to go look at it, at your expense. I do appreciate any facts about any fraud.

But personal attacks are never ok on this or any help forum. Negative comments or cuss words are distressing and
childish.
 
John: Don't let the things these people say get you down. I almost did the same thing on a different tractor,It's that small " what if " thought that maybe it's a chance of of lifetime. But I'm new to this computer thing and this website and I can tell you there are alot of good guy's here that are willing to help you out.And of course a few that hide behind a screen. Good Luck Mike
 
I'm sorry about your loss John. I haven't read all of the previous thread, so don't know what you're referring to. We learn from the mistakes of others, and I thank you for telling us about your experience. Everyone gets a turn, sooner or later. I've had bad experiences in the past, and probably will have more in the future. The sting goes away.

Best wishes,
Paul
 
You are not the first nor the last to get scammed. Sadly, many people aren't aware of these scams, or if they are they chose to ignore the warning signs. It's just human nature to want to believe something that sounds too good to be true.

A local used car dealer started getting nasty calls and threats after someone set up a bogus site purporting to be his dealership. It was a scam, but people across the country fell for it, wiring money to someone they didn't know to buy a car they had never seen because it seemed like a deal they couldn't pass up.

If someone asks you to wire them money--DON'T.

If someone asks you to cash a check or money order for them--DON'T.

If something sounds too good to be true--IT'S NOT TRUE!

I hope you're able to recoup your loss, but I'll be surprised if you do. Most of these rackets originate outside the US. Frequently they'll con people in the US to act as their proxies, so it appears they are inside the country.
 
We've all made mistakes in some way or another. And it hurts when others stick their chests out and boom it out about how bad we are for doing something that we now regret. If you would have actually ended up with the tractor for that price, some of the jealous nay-sayers would have been finding fault with it. It's pretty hard to please them all. Jim
 
If the deal HAD been legit, and you'd posted about getting that tractor, a lot of folks would've been jealous of how you "vultured" that deal.

So live and learn...and realize that the tuition is ALWAYS high at the School of Hard Knocks.
 
Swell of you to post the scam and your mistake. There are a lot of nay sayers that criticize ya but it takes a man to own up to his errors, what ever they may be. Thanks for the warning.Putting your trust in the ad makes it one more reason to get some one close by to do the examination of stuff(if you know the lookers can be trusted) otherwise I would pass it up, if I couldn't go take a look at the stuff I wanted to invest my hard earned cash on. The scammers are JUST TO DAM LAZY TO WORK FOR A LIVING!!!!!.They do rely on people who are wanting a bargain, so it becomes their GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to steal your cash.
Hope you recover. LOU
 
I, for one, appreciate your post. All of these scams were new at one time, and if it prevents even one person from getting taken, more power to ya'.

Wife's friend was all excited about a living quarters horse trailer for $5,000- about half of what it was worth- she would send half the money, they would ship it to her in Washington (from Nevada), and if she didn't like it, they would come get it and refund her money. She thought it must be legit because she was only sending half the money. I finally asked her, if whe was a thief, would she be happy if she could steal 5 grand? Of course. Well, would she still be pretty happy if she could steal $2,500?

One thing thats kind of fun with those guys is to find out where it is- they'll tell you a place that's always far away- then tell them you've got a cousin who lives nearby- what's the address, so he can come by and have a look? The back-pedalling is always intesting at that point.
 
I keep a couple of gorgeous pinups on file. I like to answer the scammers with something like "I would do ANYTHING to get this item as I am broke and desperate" Then attach the photo. One guy sent me an email asking me to come to the Seattle airport. I wrote back with my flight number, all the phony stuff and said be sure to meet me at 2:00 pm. Wonder how long he waited around.

Gordo
 

Yeah - sorry about your loss, John...

One thing to keep in mind - is a lot of these scams originate from folks in countries where the average annual wage might be less than a $1000 or so...

So there are TONS of people around the world willing to flood any marketing channel they can with bogus deals and are willing to work hard for however long on the off-chance one of them will hit.

All it takes is one unemployed crook hanging around a corner internet cafe with nothing but time on his hands to pull stuff like this - its a wonder it isn't even MORE rampant...

Just being able to see the item in question prevents most of those scams...


Howard
 

Different than this scam, but - I've seen a lot of Internet buyers get "taken" a different way.

I've been at a lot of real-life sales, where some internet or phone buyer wound up buying whatever item.

Several times, I've seen the internet photos on the auctioneers site beforehand, and then seen the item in real life and I KNOW that the internet buyer wouldn't have paid that much if they would have taken the time to look at it beforehand.

I've seen tractors with holes torched in the sheet metal, cracked blocks, busted gauges, rats-nest wiring, rusted out rims, etc, etc, that sure don't show up in the website photos...


Howard
 

I know where you're coming from.

Recently a reputable local auctioneer had a farm sale with a VAC Case tractor on it. They even had a photo of it on the auction bill and it didn't look too bad. It appeared like it was being currently used.

I drove 20 miles to the auction for that specific tractor, and when I got there it was junk. The distributor cap, plug wires, and other parts were missing, the tires were flat, the seat was a cobbled up mess, and it looked like it hadn't moved in five years. Either the photo on the auction bill was not the same tractor, or someone was very adept at taking a pic that showed only the best part.

I suspect the auctioneer was aware of the intense interest in tractors of that size and of that era and ran the photo figuring to pull more people to the auction.
 

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