Who has horses???

Hey folks,
I know some of you have horses. How many of you use electric fencing?

I've got a little 3yr old mare that about another escape from the butcher or horse sale.
She'll walk the fence and find what she thinks is the perfect spot then just stand there and stare like she's psyching herself up, then ducks her head and goes under. Fence is working fine (don't ask). Anyone got one like that and have a creative cure? I use the electric tape.


Dave

Junk the tape. 12 gauge steel wire and one darn hot fencer. Mine will make about a 3/4" spark with a screwdriver grounding out the fence. Takes our horses a week to figure out it's not working, no one will dare touch it. Also use 2 strands, bottom one about 18" off the ground and the next at 3 or 4 feet.
AaronSEIA

HI DAVE whats up: My wife and I have 10 head
AQHA and paints; Yes we us electric fencers, and yes they are very hot. Between The two pastures we have 30 acres for the horses all electric on top and 2nd wire down; the rest of the fence 40''
woven field fence.The charger is a PARMARK MAGNUM
12 volt /solar NOW bud it is HOT.
JR.FRYE

I've used poly tape and poly wire, but nothing beats real wire to be sure they are getting the message. And a HotShot fencer. I beleive it takes more of a jolt to deter an animal than any human would consider severe. So even if it "feels" like its working check it with a probe.

a tape only fence only works for a trained conditioned horse.

otherwise use hi-ten wire and a hot fencer and the tape or, preferably, just wire.

soundguy

Wish I could go high tensil...... Only thing that isn't considered permanent (can't set up a permanent fence on the properties) is the electric tape. Plenty of power, just she's got herself numb.She knows now that she don't feel it on her main and has a practiced move that slips her right under. Thinking about putting up one strand about 18 inches inside. Just hate to go extra for just one.

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HI DAVE whats up: My wife and I have 10 head
AQHA and paints;

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Same here....... If you are in modern view check our website. It's in German, but plenty of pics.
I use the 6 volt parmak solars and have a couple of the 12 volt units (not solar) . Prolly end up going to 4 or 5 bands if she don't straighten up. We'll breed her in the next 4 weeks or so and maybe that'll take care of her.

Dave

We just got another one in, think there is 14 now. We use steel wire and have a few Zareba solar powered fence chargers at the place. I liked the old weed burner ones we used to have when I was a kid, nothing like a hot fence that will throw you if you cross the strands, don't ask how I know LOL !

I think it is important to strategically locate the wire strands, you need good splices, less or none is better, a good ground, copper clad rod into soil that has enough moisture.

The nylon tape with the strands in it, we have used that off a regular charger, but I am not all that confident as to how hot you can make those, they seemed marginal to me, but I really don't know much about them. They seemed to be hot enough sometimes but I think there were splices and damaged areas of it, brush against it, been awhile since we've had any of that powered up.

We have mostly wood post and rail fences, though 2 of our smaller pastures are fenced like that, we ran 2 strands of the steel galv. wire, and employed 1 zareba unit to power both, they are hot enough to keep em off the fences, though most of these horses are seemingly well mannered, nothing like a little education from that fence if they go near it. I'd not trust any stallion when mares are in heat, these guys jump for a living so we try and coordinate turnouts carefully.

I dunno, I'd want some wire strand located where she will learn from it, darned horses always seem to find a way though don't they ? We got a new prospect in from another farm, first thing this gelding did was walk across the ice, and jumps 2 fences in one leap, 1 was electrified, I guess he wanted to introduce himself to the well mannered stallion we have, I was working on the roof framing of a barn that partially collapsed last spring from snow and saw him do it, well he's got good instinct and the stallion seemed to give him his approval, was so hard to believe that whole situation did not turn into something worse, as more times than not they find trouble.

Have had Q-Horses since 1969. Only two now. Never used electric fence. Have about 30 acres of pasture.

Yup, Had one like that without the standing and stare. He didn't get out all the time but when he decided he just put his head under the wire and walk real slow and when the wire would slide down over his tail he would kick with both hind feet.
He did it most of the time while I was doing chores. I kinda thought he was showing off to me.
Only bad habit he had. Kids could slide off on the ground under him and he wouldn't take a step. He would stand until they were clear of his feet. No special training.

I have 4 thouroughbreds, 4 rail wood,fence rails on the inside of the posts. I would never use electric for horses. Alot of people do, but its not for me. Our fence isent in the best shape as the stupid owner of the farm bought pine posts???
Thats my horse faceing me.

Electrobraid- put the heat to it and they stay back.

http://www.electrobraid.com/

Only escapes have been when the kids didn't lock the gates right. I say "right" cause Matt's pony got more brains than some folks I work with.

That's one hard headed horse. I use a Parmak on a single strand of 12ga. aluminum wire and they treat it like it is the devil himself in that wire. If I take a stick and tap that wire while they are near they about jump out of their skins. It is a large pasture with shade and a stream so maybe they are just content with what is in their space.

Not Me - Not Me:

But them dang girls have a few left after glennster raided the patch.
Think the girls are getting ready to have hooves trimmed just before he showed up to take the down to James and Nancy's place.
1/1/10 (If I remember correct)

Course it would be nice if Nancy could bring that speckled Appy back up this year for the 4-H show!

Those things that kick on one end, bite on the
other and drive folks into bankruptcy?

Got 4, none are fence testers or jumpers.

Our place in Dallas was wood posts & cattle panels and the horses rubbed on it so hard they were popping the staples out of the posts. I ran a single strand of galvanized wire about 42 inches from the ground (hip high to the horses). Parmak charger rated for 10 miles of fencing, powered less than 1 mile. Packed a wallop (wanna guess how I know?) No more rubbing on the fence or even getting close to it.

Horses are now at the farm in E. Tx.

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Top strand is electrobraid, bottom strand is poly twine. Powered by the same Parmak charger. Now running 2 strands, approx. 3/4 mile. Horses don"t even get close to it. During the summer, had a tree go down on the fence. Horses never crossed even though the strands were on the ground.

I"ve used the Parmak mag solar charger. It doesn"t have nearly the punch the plug in has.

I agree on the electrobraid. Makes a great fence.

We have two horses with electric fences.One time they got out,but didnt go anywhere.Dont even leave the fences on unless its summer,when they have access to all 13acres of pasture.Neighbors horses get out once in a while.I dont know,Im far from an horse expert,seems to me though if a horse has plenty to eat and no love attraction nearby they dont go anywhere.

Stan

Neighbor across the road has one horse on about 5 acres. His fence has 2 strands of non electric barbed wire. My cows wouldn't even slow down for that but his horse hasen't got out yet. Sounds like your horse is a sale candidate.

KEH

We use Horseguard electric tape, and it works great. We run 3 strands, 20", 36", and 54". Sounds like you need a lower strand of tape, if she's ducking under. With cattle, if they get shocked higher on their head or back they will move forward, into or through the fence, while a lower shock, like on the nose, will force them backward. Assuming that horses do the same thing. Our horses will jump back from the fence if they hear a twig snap that sounds like the shock from the fence, so they're trained pretty well.

We've always had trouble with the tape lasting only a year or two. The little wire strands start breaking, leading to poor conduction, sparking, etc. But good for visibility- so now, we always run a wire along with the tape- right together, with both using the same insulators.

You also should run another wire, about 2 feet off the ground- just wire. Make sure its hot, and see if horse starts respecting it. She may not- once they get breechy, it can be impossible to stop them. Then, its off to the horse auction.

We had a mule one time that would jump the fence- neighbor watched- he stood parallel to the fence, and just sprang over it. Would graze awhile at the neighbors, then jump back in, and we were never the wiser. Just another in a lengthy list of reasons not to have mules.