Expensive tire change

Zachary Hoyt

Well-known Member
I took a 14.9x38 rear tire on a bad rim to the shop yesterday along with a bald tire on a good rim and several buckets of calcium that I siphoned out of the tire after the rim blew. The idea was that they'd put the good tire on the good rim and pump the calcium back in. I knew they might need to put a new tube in, but when I went to pick it up today the bill was $189 for a tube and two hours labor at $60. I hadn't thought it would take that much labor, but I guess it did. If I have to do this again maybe I'll try to do it at home. I trust the folks at the shop, but it does run into money. The good news is that the wheel is back on the tractor and it is happy again.
Zach
 
Yep that is why I do my own. May take me a few hours and a few brakes and a lot of pain pills after but sure beats a price like that. One of these days I'm going to fix my truck tire bead breaker machine so as to make it easier
 
I'll trade your tire bill for my bulk (milk) tank compressor repair bill. An expansion valve went bad, lost some of the R22. Two trips @ $1/mile because he didnt' have the right part, about $180 in parts and R22... Total bill was just over $950. Complained to the shop owner, got the 2nd trip charge dropped ($50), but that's it. They charge from the time they leave the shop until they get back.
 
Its an easy job to do if you have the tools to do it with. I use a skidsteer to break the beads if they are to tough.Knowing the right technique is half the battle.
 
Zach - those tires aren't bad to change, and you can pump the calcium with a cheap little paddle pump run off of a drill motor. There's a fitting that you use on the valve stem that allows you to bleed the air out as you add the calcium. Total cost of the little pump and the fitting probably not over $35. And you'll have them for the next one that needs changed (heaven forbid, ha).

Paul
 
I feel bad.

After the last couple years of repairs & tire issues - your bill sounds cheap to me.

That makes me sad, that it sounds cheap any more.... ;)

--->Paul
 
Yikes! Good thing your rolling in the dough with milk income....not :>(!

Sorry to hear about both of these expensive repairs.

Christopher
 
Well back when I was your age yep it was easy but get to my age, add a bad back, bad shoulder, and a bed knee what was easy now has become an all day job. Oh well I still do my own and it keeps me from having to go to P&T
 
Is their no end to it? I realize a tire shop has overhead....but here is another deal, buddy of mine calls last Sat. he asks me what I think a fuel filter cost for his duramax....44 dollars from O reillys and sixty two from the Chevy dealer. Or how about this one, you are laid off and get a little behind on your monthly bill or perhaps late, this shows on your credit report which in turn shows up to your insurance company, and up goes your premiums! And this bunch of snake oil salesman that we have looking out for our best interests wants my vote again. I say red, blue, hog frog or dog, put all of them on unemployment. As none of them know of an honest days work I do not think it will cost us very much.
 
Got hosed like that a month ago for a 16.9X38, They had the tractor there in their heated shop overnight so the tire would be warm and all they did was put a new tube in it and no fluid. Got charged 2 hrs@$60 also and some other charges $250 total. Small town shop to boot. chris
 
Yes, I'll try to do it myself next time. I changed an 11.2x38 with no calcium a couple of months ago, but it was a 4 ply and these were 6, so I chickened out. It was an expensive lesson, but now I've learned it.
Zach
 
I had a nail in a 15.5 38 a month ago. Hole for the stem was rusted kinda jagged and ruined the tube. Had the service man out. Bill for pumping out the chloride,pulling a nail out of the tire,putting in a new tube and pumping the chloride back in...$218.75.
 
When I had my tire shop 6 years ago now, I would have charged $52 labor plus the tube. We charge by the cross section in (14.9 X $3.50) ($2.50 without fluid) maybe that was to cheap, but these tires are not that hard to change, unless it is some old rotten, stiff tire or something. I still change tires at home for my friends and neighbors but I am not set up to pump fluid, and don't really want to, what a mess. I think 189 for a tube must be about 250% markup, I know last fall I did a 13.6-38 and the tube was like $40 or 50, which is the same tube as a 14.9
 
$60/hr * 2hours =$120. + ~$55 for tube = $175 + 8% tax = $189.

He did not pay $189 + $120 or $309.00
 
I'm with you, last one I had was $150 to change, pump, and a new tube but that was also plus the $650 for the new tire.
 
Yep the crooks in office do not understand what real work is or if at one time they did they forgot how it was but most where born with that silver spoon in there mouth. Sad how bad the U.S. is getting and what is even sadder is that it just keeps getting worse not better
 
Of course one thing that helps me is that I worked doing tire repair for a live for a few years. Seems if you have done it day in day out for a few years it makes it seem a tad bit easier but starting to think well I'm not as young as I once was
 
Nonsense. Nobody has ever had calcium ruin a rim. Just ask the calcuim chloride lovers here. There never has been a silent unseen leak seaping out of sight under the rim.
 
Last big tire I had changed was 25 bucks labor,35 bucks for the tube Tire was 300 bucks 9x32 When the 2nd tire let go from old age the same shop did the job.They didnt have the tube on had but delivered the tire to my place next day no charge.There are some honest shops left,hard to find them .
 
I also do most of my own, unless I run deer antlers through a rear like I did 2 years ago in a field 5 miles form home. That was on my Case 1370, on 20.8x38 rears.

I don't mind wrestling even 18.4x38 on the IH1066 at home. In the field is a different story. The tools aren't there, ground is soft.

At home I have all the air I need, the ESCO bead breaker, all the right tools.

Also depends on how much time you can spare. During haying one lost day can make all the difference between horse quality hay and dirt cheap cattle hay. DOUG
 
If you need weight, it is the best option there is.

Other options have other problems, which for many people are more bothersome than the chance of rust from chloride.

If one uses the tractor, it's not much of a problem.

If the tractor is a showpiece, probably doesn't see any use nor need any fluid of any kind.

Seems simple.

Yea, you might rust some metal with the CC. There's a chance. But if any chance of harming a tractor is to be avoided, I guess I need to park my tractors & go back to using horses. So I don't take a chance of hurting a tractor ever....

This is about the only thing you & I don't see eye to eye on around here, eh? :)

--->Paul
 
I just bought a nice used tire from tire shop for $100.00 they changed out tire added new tube and filled both rear tires with 64 gals of calcium, and my bill was $209.00. Yours does sound a little high. Mike
 
Theses tales make me feel lucky, first part of last year I has a rear tire on my old Case 320 combo that was going down in a matter of hours so I take it off and run it up to a place called Buds grocery and tire repair, my next door neighbor told me em and sure enough the young fella there said no problem and after marking the stem location started beatin on it, it came apart pretty easy and he found the hole and patched it then layed the tube on the rim and found a finish nail, pulled it out and checked the rest out real well, put it back together and aired it up, took 30-35 mins and he charged me $22, cheap as I am I had to give him $25 just cause I was so happy.....OCG
 
Last month I took in two good tires, and two bad tires on good rims to have them swapped over. Bought two new 18.4-34 tubes at $58 each, labor was $80, total with tax was $203.25, but no fluid involved.
 
Tubes are not cheap anymore.

I bet the guy sat on a stool and watched that calcium fill. I wouldn't think it would take 2 hours to change a tire for someone in the business.
 
Yep know about the hay thing that is why I have 2 balers and 2 tractors for that. Then 2 tractors set up to cut hay and then a number of others that I can rake with. Plus I have an air compressor under the hood of my pick up. One year I baled hay airing up a rear tire on the tractor every time I went around the field. Made it a bit slower going but I got it done all the same
 
Don't feel too bad. The last one I had done was 350 for a repair on a 16.9-30 with new tube, unload and reload...
It was the last tire I paid to have fixed. Probably 4 years ago now.

Rod
 
Yup. When you start to add up all the tax it make a person sick.

Probably had to earn $260 to allow the $189 to be spent after income tax.

There were many taxes on materials and labor to make the tube before it got into the owners hands.

Taxes on the sale of the tube.

Income taxes on the labor to repair the tire.

Without all the taxes it probably would ahve been under $50.

More taxes on the way because we are going broke trying to run all government programs.
 
tubes are expensive, I bought 2 new Firestone 14 ply 30.5x32 tires for my combine and one $300 tube plus mounting, total bill $4998
 
I bought a 30.5X32 combine tube four years ago and thought it was expensive at $100. So now it is $300. Looks like I got a deal.
 

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