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Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

Hi guys I"m back again with 2 questions: 1: Ford 2000 3cyl diesel with 730 front loader rear tires filled with 32 gal calcium ea.but I"m still having problems with getting stuck. Tires seem to spin in rocks,dirt ect.when using front loader.Do I need to build something for 3pt to hold more weight? 2:Broke a bolt in adjustable front end,only 2 bolts 4 holes, added 2 more grade 8 bolts in extra holes, is this ok? I don"t see a reason why it would hurt. Thanks in advance Mike

mowr · Feb 24, 2010

When you blow a fuse, what does that tell you? When you break an axle bolt, it tells you the same thing; it's loaded beyond its design limits. And the sequel is also the same; when you put a stronger fuse in, something much more expensive goes next. We see them all the time with bent or broken radius rods, axles, spindles, wheels, center pins, steering parts. If you need front loads that heavy, you need a tractor that heavy, "and this ain't it."

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

barrel of concrete on the back would work wonders. If you make something yourself, I'd incorporate a draw bar in it for convenience.

Dave

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

Dave2 I was thinking of building a 3 point type framework to do this. so were on the same page Thanks. Mowr: I understand what your saying, but I need to know how many bolts was supposed to be in it and what grade. I would assume it would be a grade 8 just for the strength.Do I need to put just 2 reg grade in ? Thanks Mike

Leyland-270 · Feb 24, 2010

Four bolts are better but even 2 should not have broken unless there was shock load put to them by lowering a load quickly and then stopping it quickly short of the ground.

As for the traction issue, adding weight to the three point will help you get further, and maybe getting stuck further off the road is what you have in mind. I would suggest however you check rear tire air pressure. With valve stem on top as not to let out fluid you can decrease air pressure to increase traction.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

Leyland 270: Don't jinx me I've been stuck enough LOL. And as for as the lowering the bucket down too fast, it's very possible this loaders goes down extremely fast, Mike

JayinNY · Feb 24, 2010

Add weight to the rear, and get some chains for it.

RodinNS · Feb 24, 2010

Price the spindles.... then decide if you want to go with 2 bolts or 4 bolts.

*HINT* Bolts are cheaper than spindles.

One or the other ~will~ break.

Rod

old · Feb 24, 2010

Your running with your 3 point empty right??????? BIG Big no no. I have a 841 with a loader and the tires are full of fluid and if I did not have the back blade on and the 6-85lbs suit case weights on the blade and the 150 lbs wheel weight on that also I would be dead in the water also. If this works you will have a little idea of just a little of the weights. In the picture you can see half the suti case weights and the 150lbs wheel weight and even then if I hit the right bump I'll still spin

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

If the bolts were a little loose would make them break easier. Grade 8 bolts will break. Grade 5 bolts will bend. I'd use what it came with. Can you post a picture of your tractor? Weight on the back will help but it also depends on how far the loader sticks out, how heavy the bucket is, etc. Dave

Leroy · Feb 25, 2010

Not sure where those bolts are, under the center of tractor holding the axle on or in each side for adjusting the width. If the latter 2 fine thread all you are supposed to have as the others are only for setting the wheel tread width. If the former then I would question if they had already fallen out of the 2 empty holes.

RodinNS · Feb 25, 2010

The SU axles on those tractors are made of a center main beam with the pivot pin and then an outer section with the spindle is bolted on with 2 bolts in a plain simple lap joint of the two bars. It's a plain, simple light duty axle. It is in no way, shape or form intended to carry a loader. In fact, it was intended to carry an 8N and the design carried forward for about an eon too long. The damn thing didn't die until the end of three cylinder 10 series production in late '89.

Rod

BANDITFARMER · Feb 25, 2010

To answer 1 you probably have 6.50x16 tires on the front, they are to narrow, need a 9.5x15 3 rib to hold the front end up with the loader on it. Now 2 a 55 gallon drum 3/4 full of concrete will give you enough weight to the rear end to get traction. Now 3 you can add bolts to it, BUT your putting allot of stress on the front end. The biggest trouble with small tractors with loaders is simple, an old trip loader dose not weigh that much and you can go right along with it. An all hydraulic loader is 3 times as heavy as a trip loader, and a 2 or 3000 ford is really not built heavy enough for a heavy loader and a heavy load in the bucket unless you want to change the front end to a solid (non-adjust) Axel. Just a thought Bandit

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