question about Toyota vs. Toyoda

Steve Sewell · Feb 24, 2010

I don"t want to make this something that Kim/Chris deletes. So - please - just an answer. It looks like Toyota is in a bit of trouble. So Mr. Toyoda , the founders grandson will be in Congress. Question - why does the company name end in TA and the family name end in DA????
-steve

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

You could put a D in your name and it would sound the same also. But someone'd screw it up by over pronouncing.......

Never forget a kid once coming into the parts store I worked at a long time ago. We call old beater cars that the soldiers would pick up for a couple hundred bucks "hoopty" here.

Black kid came in looking for a fuse cause is sound system kept blowing them. Asked what kind of car so I could look it up and he said it was an Opel (with an accent on the el) and sounded so sophisticated I couldn't place the vehicle. Went outside with him to look and found an old beat up opel with the original radio/cassette and a bass speaker that filled the back seat. From then on (in our little group) a hoopty was a Hooptay to sound more sophisticated. I gave the kid an old stereo I had and someone gave him a couple more speakers and we got to be pretty decent buddies after that.

Dave

Mr. American · Feb 24, 2010

Would you put your name on a piece of s_it car like Toyota. Toyota hired people from the NTSB to cover up their crap. They don't have a lot of engineers that know how to figure out their problems. They don't need engineers when they copy other companys work and make a small change and call it an improvement. Every Toyota on the road should be parked until Toyota fixes their problems. Toyota's are a hazzard to the other drivers on the road.

Ken Macfarlane · Feb 24, 2010

Problems have been completely blown out of proportion.

In my experience your odds are as good or better in a Toyota as anything else. Never personally seen or heard of a Toyota having the problems in the news.

Have seen at least a dozen Crown Vic's in parking lots suddenly accelerate and smash other parked cars, doesn't mean I won't drive a crown vic.

BTW none of the auto companies have a lot of engineers now. They all need Tier 2 suppliers to do most of the engineering. Its been this way for at least 20 years.

TimV · Feb 24, 2010

Here's what Wikipedia says--basically it has to do with the Japanese spelling and writing of the two names.
Toyota vs. Toyoda

Jeff Oliver · Feb 24, 2010

Did you feel the same way when at one point or the other ALL of the American car companies had major recalls?

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

There is (or at least used to be) a machine tool company called TOYODA. I know they made a line of grinders. Never got aquainted with them, but saw them at machine tool shows.

JFYI

Areo

john in la · Feb 24, 2010

If Toyota has been copying other companies work with only a small change; then they must know what change it takes to make it better.

For years every car manufacture has been comparing their cars to Toyota in relation to reliability; resale value; durability.

Crem · Feb 24, 2010

This post is going to turn into an argument for toyota by the people who own a Japanese vehicle or work for them and against toyota by the people who don't want to see them here.
Just a few days ago I read where we owe more debt to the Japanese than the Chinese. If things keep going the way they are they will both own us.

Mr. American · Feb 24, 2010

Toyota braggs that they have half as many engineers as the U.S. companies.

Toyata hired people from the NHTSA to help them cover up and brush off problems. Thats why there was no press. Toyota did have the largest recall ever in Australia couple of years ago.

Have never heard of FORD having the acceleration problem that Toyata has. They did have a problem with Japanese tires.

Mr. American · Feb 24, 2010

And right now they have better acceleration.

Mr. American · Feb 24, 2010

American car companies have had recalls, they have never been a hazzard to other cars on the road. Unless they were hit by another car.

ericlb · Feb 24, 2010

lol, fords had the problem going the other way , back in the ;70's the shift linkage on the automatics wasnt just right, the vehicle, especialy pickups, would be sitting there running and all the sudden drop into reverse and take off, i know because i worked for a ford dealer back in the day and had to buy a customer a door and paint and body work, when the truck i was working on dropped in reverse backed itself out of the shop and across the lot before i caught it, door was open and hooked on the shop entrance

big fred · Feb 24, 2010

I remember my first car, a 1967 Impala. Had a recall due to weak motor mounts. When the motor mount broke, the engine would move enough that the throttle linkage would open the throttle wide open. This generally happened when you were accelerating around a corner.

Yeah, no safety problem there.

Jim SC · Feb 24, 2010

hahahaha Best line of the day, Mr. A.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 24, 2010

Yes, the "Fix" was looping a wire rope through the frame to the motor, IIRC..

Mike (WA) · Feb 24, 2010

Granted, they have a quality control problem at present, but they've been eating our lunch for 40 years with higher quality cars than the US could turn out. Mom bought a new one in 1969, it made small American cars seem like Model A Fords by comparison.

Jon Hagen · Feb 24, 2010

"American car companies have had recalls, they have never been a hazzard to other cars on the road. Unless they were hit by another car."

Oh really???
I suppose your too young or too UAW to remember Chevy's infamous seperating motor mounts, where the engine would twist on it's weak broken motor mounts and jam the throttle wide open.

A lot of "sudden unintended acceleration" events involved with that, some through the walls of buildings.

Bad deal with the sticky Toyota gas pedals, but maybe they should have stuck with trouble free Japanese Denso brand units instead of buying those Defective USA built CTS pedal assys.
I hope they got rid of all those Defective new cracked pickup drive shafts supplied by DANA, another sloppy bamkrupt US company.

Jon Hagen · Feb 24, 2010

Remember Fords slipping into reverse and running down the streets in reverse when sloppy drivers failed to get the somewhat notchy shift quadrant firmly in the park slot.

You can't make anything idiot proof because idiot's are so clever at being idiots.

Jon Hagen · Feb 24, 2010

"Yes, the "Fix" was looping a wire rope through the frame to the motor, IIRC.."

Yes, the quick fix for the rotten motor mounts was a little cable that looped around the upper A frame mount and bolted under two exhaust manifold bolts.

by the next model year, they had designed a new mount that totally enclosed the rubber mount in a steel cage. Even if the rubber turned to oily mush, the steel cage prevented it frpm seperating and allowing the engine to lift.

The home made fix for all chevys back to 58 was to weld a chain to the frame and bolt it to the generator/ alternator bracket.

PJH · Feb 24, 2010

Saw a Ford pickup go plumb through a brand new garage. Garage door was open, but it knocked part of the back wall out and stopped at the windshield. Owner was nailing siding on the back of the garage when it happened. Missed him. Ticked him off a little tho. . .

Paul

Ken Macfarlane · Feb 24, 2010

Didn't see much news about all the Ford's cruise control switches setting them and buildings on fire all over North America either did ya? I know 2 people who had their trucks burn from that one, one lost his shop too.

toolz · Feb 24, 2010

Jon- That's just what the press isn't telling- Those CTS units are used in many of the cars on the road, not just Toyota. The "fix" is a small shim under the return spring, and cutting off about 1 1/4 inch off the bottom of the pedal SO THE PEDAL WON'T GET CAUGHT UNDER THE 3 MATS THE CUSTOMER PUT IN. I'm not a Toyota owner or supporter, I just get tired of the press misrepresenting everything, and I can't believe Toyota has been so agreeable to this government onslaught on their company.

LenND · Feb 24, 2010

If you guys remember right all Japanese vehicles had to pass our standards before they could be sold here. And that took a lot work because their vehicles after WW2 were just plain junk. Until they started selling them to us and other countries they really didn't have much for vehicles--mostly bicycles when I was there. One thing they can't blame this on our unions THIS TIME.

Jon Hagen · Feb 24, 2010

Your right toolz. I suspect the little shim mod is going to fix the troubled CTS throttle units, which Toyota claims to be fixing at up to 50,000 per day.

I only trot out the smelly little fact that the CTS units are an American product produced in Canada when some jerk starts belching about Toyota japanese junk.
I guess I should not get angry and stoop to their level.

John M · Feb 24, 2010

Just said said this on the news, was chaged to make it easier to write the name Toyota, the Toyoda in Japanese, 8 strokes vs 10 strokes, and 8 is a lucky number over there.

MarkB_MI · Feb 24, 2010

You really shouldn't ascribe much importance to how foreign words are spelled in English, particularly when the language doesn't use the Latin alphabet. For example, "Peking" is now "Beijing". The Chinese name never changed, the city's name is spelled and pronounced exactly the same as before in Chinese. The only thing that changed is how the Chinese name is transliterated into English.

Another example is Arabic. Many Arabic names, such as Mohamed/Muhammed/etc. are transliterated many different ways, even though there's only one Arabic spelling.

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