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The neighbor kid down the road was using their Farmall 300 and an old New Idea Ground driven manure spreadder. Sheriff pulled him over for no SMV. He wasnt on a busy road, and there really isnt a place to mount a SMV on a manure spreadder like that. And if you did get one to mount on, would it be clean after you were done spreadding? He got a $400 ticket. Kinda 2nd time this week hearing of a tractor getting pulled over. When Im out i usually have a cold barley pop with me on the last load. Guess everything good has to come to an end....
 
A kid here just got a $1000 fine for not wearing hunter orange while deer hunting. What is it with the government and that color? Orange cap? SMV? Geez.
 
The local government is short of cash. !!! Yeah Right!!!They need a cost of living increase lol. Darn shame when that goes on, but trying to fight city Hall is a futility in motion.Should have pulled the PTO and re painted the Squad Car.LOL.It"s all Bull Shi== any way. LOU
 
I got pulled over once by the local on a state Rd,when spreading manure with a box spreader. I was watching him in the mirror swerving every now and then, until he put his lights on. It turned out I had neglected to shut the PTO off and didn't see the flinger turning because I had put the tailgate down before leaving the field. He said " I could write you a ticket ya know"
I said "yeah, and what would that prove?" He said "Well put it in the field not in the road" and took off for another donut. Things would probably go a little different these days.
 
Sign of the times, revenue enhancement. The Deputy is probably on a quota of some sort and told every day to write as many tickets as possible, but only to working people who will pay up. Most of the time the dope heads and assorted riff - raff that they would have to feed in jail get a free pass. Many of these ''zero tolerance'' policies by various law enforcement agencies are nothing more than another form of taxation.
 
Ya its a pain, I tie a smv sign onto the beaters of the spreader, when I get to the field, I have to set the park break, get off the tractor, cut the twine, get back on the tractor, watch the sign dosent fall off the tractor, Empty then tie the sign back on again. All that over $h&t. lol
 
My cousin in Ohio got a ticket for not having a SMV on his grain drill. He got rear ended on a stright township road in broad daylight. Kinda hard to miss seein' a Farmall 806 with a drill, but his insurance ended up paying for the damage to the car. Sure glad no one got hurt.
Go figure,
Paul
 
My cousin in Ohio got a ticket for not having a SMV on his grain drill. He got rear ended on a stright township road in broad daylight. Kinda hard to miss seein' a Farmall 806 with a drill, but his insurance ended up paying for the damage to the car. Sure glad no one got hurt.
Go figure,
Paul
 
Money it tight every where so the cops are out looking for way to bring in the $$ also. Been seeing a lot of them sitting with radar guns around my area just the signs of the times. But now the big question does your state in fact have a law that says you have to have a sign like that or is it just something they are trying to push. If you can not find a law on the books that says you need one then they can not fine a person. Ya when I get a ticket and think it is wrong I check the laws to make sure
 
How about the "cop in a box" or correctly called the red light camera. Makes $100 for the town for each ticket and there is no one there so no salary. I think they bring in a few thousand a month for each of them.
 
In WI, a SMV mounted on the tractor, as long as it is high enough to be seen above the spreader, is OK. That's what I do...
 
Now, I know that some farmers don't have access to a welder...but a lot of 'em do. So what would be wrong with welding up an angle-iron bracket and bolting it to the side of the spreader, and then bolting a rearward-facing SMV emblem to the bracket?

Or, for that matter, how about one of those triangular mounting plates bolted to the bracket, so you can swap the SMV emblem from one implement to another? That's what we did back in the late 1960's...so it's not exactly new technology required to make your implements legal on the roads.
 
i guess we're lucky our county just laid off 27 deputies off. county is broke.
we have 2 on the road at night 1 on the road
in day light.
some think the county board should take over door duty at at court house to free up a few more deputies. seeing how the county board use of funds helped get us in the mess.
they sold the old county garage shop building built a new one then rented office space instead of making use of space county already owned.
now they don't understand why tax refarendum got spanked on election day 75 % no 25% yes.
 
In Illinois, you can have a properly mounted SMV emblem, and still get a ticket. They changed the reflectivity spec a few years ago, and the new SMV's have to have the "honeycomb" pattern to be legal. A cop told me that an accident involving a tractor with the old style SMV emblem automatically generated a ticket to the tractor operator, no matter who caused the wreck.

I have to say - the new emblems really show up at night. I've got a bunch of the old ones hanging in the shed. Now if I can find a use for them.

Paul
 
Thats kind of funny. I'm sick of those f-ing bowhunters that wear camo and sneak around on your property and nobody can see them back there.
 
It cost's a lot of money for photo radar camera's. A lot of times the camera's are leased from another company that does all the monitoring. It was in the news up here(Edmonton) a couple years ago. The contract the city had with a US company, for the camera's, was costing them $10,000,000! That's probably why they have so many. It takes a lot of tickets to pay the contract let alone make any profit. I think the city is doing it themselfs now but not sure. It still costs a lot of money though. Dave
 
For years, it has been less about true safety and ONLY about money collection.
Look at speeding, nationwide it would blow us away to know what is collected in speeding tickets.
So, if almost everyone stopped speeding, it would literally collaspe many law enforcement facilites.
Do they truly want EVERYONE to drive the speed limit? Heck no!!! It is gravy money and they could not survive without it.
Do speeding tickets help improve safety? I would say that since they are still writting many tickets, it does not make us safer.
To further prove this, look at all of the small towns that have the 55, 45, 35, 25, 35, 45, 55 speed signs all together. They know that a stranger will bust the limit, even safe drivers. And they have neat little hiding places to make sure you do not see them until they make you a money target. They also know that the further away you live, the less chance of you coming back for a court date. Besides, the judge is their hunting or fishing buddy.
No, I am not a bitter driver that recently got a ticket.
 
Lots of places sell stick-on SMV's that meet the new specs. Just clean up your old signs and put new stickers on them. Farm and Fleet sells kits with a new-spec SMV sticker and 2 red, 2 orange, and 4 yellow rear/side marker (about 2" x 6") stickers for the same price as a new, metal-backed SMV emblem.
 
I got into an arguement with one of the men in blue last summer at the gas station. Seems he saw me drive up to the pumps in my 60 Chevy and noticed that I wasn't wearing a seatbelt. We argued for nearly a half an hour that seatbelts were not mandatory before 1962, and that the car does not have them, never did, and is therefore exempt. I didn't get the ticket, but BOY are those guys ever dense.
 
I tried the stick-ons about twenty years ago, and they didn't stick too good. Curled up on the edges real bad. I think your comment about "clean up your old signs" was the reason why they didn't stick, ha. Wiping them with a greasy rag probably doesn't count as proper cleaning. . . Also, I bet the sticky technology is a lot better than it used to be. I'll try one - I'm always one SMV short, it seems.

They were a good idea on the old gravity boxes, and the backs of combines and round balers.

Thanks for the reminder
Paul
 
Yeah, the sticky stuff on the new ones is STRONG. As long as the surface is reasonably clean, they stay put.
 
I hear the Feds are trying to experiment with Pennsylvania, make all farm implements come up to DOT standards, same as the big rigs. Pre-drive checklist logs, and the whole deal.

Kinda hard to believe, but reading on it on another forum, seems to be a real deal.

That'll make your wheaties go up in price!

--->Paul
 
Get a copy of the statute, and carry it in your glove box- that generally takes the steam out of them pretty quickly. I've got the Washington statute in the mighty Hudson, but haven't been stopped yet.
 
guy got pulled over and ticketed becuase he had a tractor on his trailer going down the road doing 50 miles an hour.. The trooper said you cant have smv sign on anthing going faster than 25 mph... even if its on a trailer going cross country. guy called the trooper a chicken farmer or something similar.
 
pa is too busy with the gas people now to worry about farmers every week theres another truck driver going to jail with fines of 15 -25,000 dollars the dot went around and put 10 ton weight limit signs on all the roads if you are over 10 tons you need a permit well a truck driver takes a wrong turn and before he can get turned around theres dot fining him for not having a permit and being 83,000 pounds over weight not all have been a mistake but most are i just think its wrong for dot to do that just a collection game and the money dont even go back into the roads and the local townships are making the gas companies pay to fix the roads after they destroy them well those trucks are buying there fuel localy wheres the tax money from that going? that should in itself should covor to fix the roads
 
Rather than try to get the new sticker to stick on top of the old sticker, use the back of the sign and clean it real well. The new sticker will stick real well to the back side.

Yeah yeah, I know the SMV will be on the wrong side then! LOL You may have to turn the sign around.
 
You"re right about no place to mount SMV or lites on spreader. However, we had a accident here a while back. Farmer was in the habit of driving on shoulder/edge of pavement down a main highway durnig NON daylight hours. No lites, SMV on his spreader. I got suprised coming up behind him more than once. When the accident happened he got tailended by a guy in a van - severe injuries. Lawsuits are still pending. Could be pretty nasty. Gotta cover your hinder.... $400 is pertty expensive, but consider the alternative. He got off cheap, considering.
 
Center left turn lane is for left turns only and not to be used to merge right.

When turning a corner onto a four lane road you must stay in the right lane until you can use your left blinker to merge left.

I found out the hard way.
 
Hmmm...I work for a building supply company driving a 24' triple axle straight truck w/moffet-piggyback forklift mounted on rear of truck. It has a permanently mounted SMV reflector mounted on the lift. Is that illegal since it rides on rear of truck and I guarantee I'm doing more than 30 mph? And yea lately NCDOT has been on a rampage lately! Roadblocks and whole packs of SUV's been chasing Us truckers lately. I suspect revenue enhancement Myself!
 
I know the manure spreader isn't exactly the cleanest place to put an SMV, but what if he mounted one on the side of the spreader, and maybe put a sheild over the top to prevent manure from coming from the top. Our spreader doesn't have one on it either, but our tractors all have flashers on them that are above the spreader. Not all the SMV's are higher though.

Never had a problem with the law, but does make me think about making a bracket to put one on ours.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
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A spreader is a hard thing to put a smv on and even harder to keep it on. It takes a beating and is covered with poo most of the time. I am not silly enough to believe there is a snowballs chance that a little orange triangle is going to keep someone from running into the tractor and spreader. If you cant see a tractor going down the road you sure as heck wont see that smv emblem. It just might help keep me out of trouble when someone does run into the back of a piece of farm equipment while out on the road. Better safe than sorry with all the people rushing around on the country roads these days.
bill
 
Alright John, another good idea.

No, you don't have to turn the sign around - it would work on the other end of the tractor. But wait - I'd have to drive backwards. . .

Did you ever notice - you always tear up the new SMV's. I had an old faded one on the back of the tractor, and it didn't have a single dent in it. Replaced it with a new one and got a manure spreader handle in it an hour later. . .

Thanks for the tip. The back is always shiny.
Paul
 
I'll tell you my thought process on this. That is where the factory put the smv on this spreader. There are specific rules on smv placement on farm equipment that are followed by the companies. If I leave it there and keep it in good shape I should be ok. If I go and move it, even if it is to what we would consider a better place, in the eyes of the law, I could be making a mistake that could get me in trouble if anything happened. I dunno, to darn many lawyers out there. No offense anyone but there are alot of crazy lawsuits these days.
bill
 
A 400.00 dollar fine, I would rather spend 500.00 with an attorney. BTW the old car no seat belts thing, will not work for kids car seats. You must have seat belts for kids.
 

Here in madison county Iowa I have never been stoped for not having a smv on my hay rak's- spreader-or pulling equp, I knock on wood,What ever I am pulling down the road I have my flashers and my strob light going and if that is not enough for any one to see, I guess they can hit me: and I will say this $400.00 is a bit steap.
JR.Frye
 
Remember that times are economically tough for the government, and you WILL be seeing law enforcement issuing all kinds of bogus tickets that will earn them brownie points with their masters.

After all, it is your word against theirs', and a cop would never lie, because they are the salt of the earth, right?
 
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