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- Thread starter kruser
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I didn't even know there were any farms left down in that area of NY. It's not very far from New York City.
Whatever the guy's problem was, at least he didn't shoot a bunch of people first. But killing all the cows wasn't exactly a nice thing to leave behind for his kids and wife. If nothing else, his wife could of sold them and gotten some money to live on. I suspect that whatever the real problem was, it was something other then dairy farming.
Whatever the guy's problem was, at least he didn't shoot a bunch of people first. But killing all the cows wasn't exactly a nice thing to leave behind for his kids and wife. If nothing else, his wife could of sold them and gotten some money to live on. I suspect that whatever the real problem was, it was something other then dairy farming.
Don't know. As a recovering dairy farmer myself,it kinda consumes you and tends to be ALL there is in life. I'm guessing the prices for the last year and a half,maybe a banker who was going to take the cows anyway,so maybe he decided nobody else was gonna have them? Don't know. Just trying to think like a depressed dairyman.
cadet trooper
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Don't know about the psychological part even those who study that can't get a handle on it after all look at all the shootings that go on from time to time and even the meds for depression have warning labels for suicidal tendencies. Anyway I grew up on a dairy farm and loved every aspect of it except the milking part and if I had to milk 51 cows twice a day seven days a week you would need to keep the guns from me just kidding I'd give them away first. Too bad there were obviously some underlying problems.
Fordfarmer
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Very likely the last year's prices...I know I'm about $20,000 behind where I was a year ago, and a lot of farmers were in worse shape than me when prices dropped.
730 virgil
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- Location
- IL Wis state line near Monroe Wi
i have a nephew about 30 who is a dairy farmer about a year ago he told me i'm glad my wife has a good job other wise i don't know how we would buy food.
milk price has improved lately ,but it will take along time to get back to start.
milk price has improved lately ,but it will take along time to get back to start.
A guy at Ag Talk helped the clean up process. He said it was nobody's business as to the cause. I liked that attitude. Nothing good that I can think of could come from dragging him or his family through the dirt.Only one comment by one of the neighbors there who said dairy farming has been tough.
Yea, I was kinda surprised by some of the early comments there, so I didn't bring it up here too...... Wasn't the direction I thought that was gonna go.
My dairy neighbor owes me a couple thousand bucks for oats & straw from the past couple years. He asks about paying it up, I haven't even looked up the bill, I'm sure he's got more pressing bills still, things should look a little better for the dairy & hog folks this summer I hope. Worse for me as mostly a grain farmer, but things always balance out.
--->Paul
My dairy neighbor owes me a couple thousand bucks for oats & straw from the past couple years. He asks about paying it up, I haven't even looked up the bill, I'm sure he's got more pressing bills still, things should look a little better for the dairy & hog folks this summer I hope. Worse for me as mostly a grain farmer, but things always balance out.
--->Paul
fixerupper
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My brother-in-law took is life when his farming was going down the tubes. The whole community showed up with all of support they could give for his wife and kids. I hope this man's family can have the same kind of support.
I do hope the media can have enough respect for the family to just let this sad news fade away. The family does not need to be analyzed by the public. Jim
I do hope the media can have enough respect for the family to just let this sad news fade away. The family does not need to be analyzed by the public. Jim
Nah, if he shot the cows, he done the right thing there too. They aren't worth a damn thing here.... especially your average grade cow. If money was tight and the cows mabey run down a bit you'd be lucky to not get a bill for trucking them to slaughter.
Still a sad situation tho.
Rod
Still a sad situation tho.
Rod
Anonymous-0
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too bad about the cows
JD, you must be familiar with Copake, Ancram and the like, there's still some beautiful land in that valley and surrounding hills, with oustanding views of the Catskills, has to be 110+ miles from NYC. Last I saw it, there was still quite a bit of agriculture going on there.
It's getting out of hand, the guy I work for on the side, driving a DM mack hauling his hay straw and sawdust/grindings, to a large dairy operation in Easton, NY 2000 head - lumber mill just raised his price on sawdust/grindings, $7/yd dairy found another source of hay less than $150/ton, so now he's got a barn full of round bales, that would have gone to this customer, with the prices going up, cost of keeping the truck on the road, it's a very thin profit, thanfully he does not milk anymore, and the way things are, hard to say what we are going to do with 250 acres in corn 70 in oats and 150+ in hay. He's got health issues, really can't get in the truck or tractors anymore, if we don't do it after the daytime job, it's over for good, barely enough money in it to pay us for doing it. Even worse, though he's sold some land in the past, this is what brings in money for him, he's got a minimal retirement, I dunno, I hope it was something else, sure is not easy anymore.
It's getting out of hand, the guy I work for on the side, driving a DM mack hauling his hay straw and sawdust/grindings, to a large dairy operation in Easton, NY 2000 head - lumber mill just raised his price on sawdust/grindings, $7/yd dairy found another source of hay less than $150/ton, so now he's got a barn full of round bales, that would have gone to this customer, with the prices going up, cost of keeping the truck on the road, it's a very thin profit, thanfully he does not milk anymore, and the way things are, hard to say what we are going to do with 250 acres in corn 70 in oats and 150+ in hay. He's got health issues, really can't get in the truck or tractors anymore, if we don't do it after the daytime job, it's over for good, barely enough money in it to pay us for doing it. Even worse, though he's sold some land in the past, this is what brings in money for him, he's got a minimal retirement, I dunno, I hope it was something else, sure is not easy anymore.
Hotflashjr
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- Western MA
Dairy prices in the Northeast are awful. I'm in Mass. and at this time last year they were saying $16-$18 cwt. They have barely broken $16. I am in Ag lending and we have had a lot of programs passed trying to keep the dairy farmers going, state and federal. Basically, we were told to keep them going with operating loans if possible. It is real tough in dairy farming especially when you add in the wet weather last year. I know guys that barely got a first cutting of hay and had grain production cut in half. Silage is weak in value due to the lack of grain on the corn when cut. It is the "perfect storm" for the dairy farmer right now. Low prices, poor production no matter how good a grower, and high prices. It is sad that someone got to the point of this farmer. My heart goes out to his family.
Yes, it's a beautiful but pricey area. In fact, many of the farmers that settled the area here in Otsego County, came from Columbia County because all the good land there was already taken by the mid 1800s. That's why I'm suprised there were any dairy farmers left that still actually own their farms. I know a few, but they sold all their land long ago and just lease it.
This area is going the same route now. In fact, we had many Amish farmers move in around 10 years ago from the state of Maryland, and now they're baling out. Too pricey here too. Good farmland has gone from $800 an acre to $2500-$3000 per acre. Many of moving up to the Tug Hill region of northern New York. Many bargain farms up there right now (along with the huge wind generators).
This area is going the same route now. In fact, we had many Amish farmers move in around 10 years ago from the state of Maryland, and now they're baling out. Too pricey here too. Good farmland has gone from $800 an acre to $2500-$3000 per acre. Many of moving up to the Tug Hill region of northern New York. Many bargain farms up there right now (along with the huge wind generators).
larry@stinescorner
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i cant beleive that comment
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
Well beef cattle prices are in the dumper too but I don't plan on shooting my cows or myself.Money is a lame excuse for doing what he did in my opinion.Plenty of people have lost their houses jobs etc and didn't freak out.I've known a whole lot of people that came thru the Great Depression and never did this sort of thing.
Anonymous-0
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Opinions are like a-holes, everybody's got one.
Anonymous-0
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it is a shame about the cows good riddence of the weak.
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