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Mike (WA)

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My secretary just asked if we could get her W-2 form done, so she and hubby could file taxes. He got his yesterday- he was on unemployment (Dad always called it "rockin' chair") all year, and made $27,000!!! That translates to about $13 per hour on an 8 hour per working day basis. She's exasperated with him because he's not really serious about looking for work, but can you blame him? She was trying to get him to apply for a maintenance job at a local medical facility, but it only pays $10 per hour, increasing to $12 after probationary period. He'd rather watch TV for $13.00. Guvment keeps extending unemployment benefits, and it shows signs of becoming permanent.

The "safety net" has become a hammock. At least, lower it to where you're better off working than not.

I grieve for the republic.
 
That's it. Unemployment pays 60% of your previous wage.If you loose a good job,you get a pretty good whack of unemployment compensation. It's not a set rate across the board. When my wife lost her nursing job last March,there was a job in a Dr's office posted,but it paid about $5 an hour less than she'd been making. She was insulted bad enough by loosing her job,and to take one for that much less really rubbed her the wrong way. Looking back,she should have swallowed her pride and took it because now there's nothing. But...hindsite's 20/20,pride goeth before the fall,you name it.
 
Yeah, one of the big pushes for "saving and creating jobs" is the extension of unemployment benefits. I don't know how they figure you will decrease unemployment at the same time you increase the "subsidy" for it.
 
In Nebraska they pay you $298 per week, no matter how much you made before! December 2008 thru February 2009 I took it. Then found work, but now am unemployed again! I refuse to take it because you could not do side work, or go help in Haiti (or anywhere for that matter) because to get it you had to be available 5 days per week. Just struck me wrong, I intend to never take it again. Greg
 
Yeah. It's a percentage of your final wage.

But what about the fact that this guy (and all of us working stiffs) paid INTO the unemployment system all these years? It should be available if we need it.

On the other hand, I agree with Mike (WA) about how it's become too easy to be on unemployment.

Hard subject. No real clear answer.
 
That(government USED TO FIGURE a percentage (benefits) was used award ?? un employment payments. Don't know now, cause I'm Retired. Was 75% of take home pay Years ago. I worked 3 jobs for over 5 years till I was worn to a frazzle, Cut back to two, After the ride to the hospital. LOU
 
ast time unemployment was "fixed", our Governor Branstad (Catholic) recommended that it be based on how many children you had. Didn't matter how much you earned, as in the past. Now you get rewarded for how many mouths you have to feed. Just on of many reasons I won't support him. BTWE, your employer still pays into the system based on how much you get paid and how often there are layoffs in your profession.
 
Maximum weekly benefit here in Washington is $560, but there was another $70 added, I think by the stimulus, which raises it to $630. So I suppose you could get as much as $32760 in a year.
 
Darn, I think I'm in the wrong line of work. And to think that all these years I thought I'd get ahead by working to earn money. What a fool I've been.

Christopher
 
I, too, grieve for the Republic. We're on a slickety slope and I'm not sure there's time to apply the brakes before we hit the precipice.
 
Unbelievable, isn't it? But its the "gospel truth".

Thats one of the problems with all these "programs"- most of us who never use them, have no idea how much money is actually going out.
 
I pay unemployment tax at a rate of 1.75% of wages. So if the lad was working for me at $30,000 per year, his unemployment "pay-in" would be $525 per year, so he ate up his pay-in by about the 5th week (he's worked about 5 years- is only 24 yrs old).

Assuming he works 40 years at $30,000 per, with no other layoffs, he'd pay in about $21,000 lifetime. He's been on rockin' chair for about a year and a half, so has taken over $40,000 out of the system so far, and no end in sight.

Another negative incentive to finding work- he's home taking care of the kids now, so day care costs of several dollars an hour are saved. But that isn't as big a deal as it sounds, because if he were working, they could get much of day care paid for under yet ANOTHER nanny-state program. As Rush says, "It just continues. . ."
 
You are only telling half the story about the unemployment pay in Michigan. It is based on the highest income quarter in the past year but has a cap of $362 per week. NO one can make anymore than that in Michigan on unemployment. There was an additional 25 a week from the federal stimulus that started back in March of 2009 but it expired Jan 1 2010, so now back to the weekly maximum of $362.00.
 
It does not come out of your earnings- the boss pays your unemployment. Neighbor worked construction, claimed it was (FICA) on his check stub, couldn"t read his own stub- it was his Social Security. Max in MN now is around $590 per week, depending on previous 5 quarters of earnings. Fed extra puts it to 615.
 
My wife was the same...she quit her job after the company was sold with the intentions of helping me. I told her she should sign up for unemployment since she qualified for the max ($650 a week). Problem was she had to submit job apps...so she wound up with 4 job offers the second week and is back working.....Oh well, I guess if you are good at what you do.....
 
id belive it, a few weeks ago i hauled a john deere 770 grader to a trailer park in town for a man his job was to blade all the roads in the park, what was weird to me was i arrives around 2;00 pm on a tuesday , everybody was home! now this was not your upscale trailer park, quite the opisit, you know the type, guy and girl in their early 20's earings and rings in their face 4 kids, from diaper clad to almost school age little car with semi truck exhaust hanging out from under it, and nobody is working, except me, guess i know where my taxes go now
 
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