I picked up a package of the curley light bulbs at our church rummage sale. I installed one in the garage. as soon as the light came on the birds started singing, the rain stopped, and everything just looked brighter. I'm not sure, but I think my elect. meter slowded down also. These bulbs just might actually save the world. Stan
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Anonymous-0
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I have 2 normal lightbulbs on the place that will get the CF's as soon as they burn out. Sure does cut back on the KW's .....
Dave
ScottyHOMeY
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That's always amazed me. They say they're out to save the world, and then take one of the most ubiquitous products in the world and replace a vacuum with mercury vapor, all before having a real, and accessible, waste-processing stream for them. These are the same folks that rave about the mercury belching (to hear them describe it) out the stacks of coal-burning power plants.
God save me from the people trying to save me.
God save me from the people trying to save me.
Paul from MI
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Those CF bulbs save money, but you'd better have good eyes if you turn one on in the cold. Takes a few minutes before the light illuminates anything.
I still use a few old incandescants just so I can see to walk around.
Paul
I still use a few old incandescants just so I can see to walk around.
Paul
Anonymous-0
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One of the local lumber yards went out of buisness and had an auction this year. We bought all of the old style bulbs we could haul off. My meter is singin like a sowin machine, and i can ACTUALLY see good enough to read! LOL.
I can see green too, in all different shades.
I can see green too, in all different shades.
They outlast the rough service bulbs in the trouble light too. And won't burn ya when you roll over on them either. Used to buy rough service bulbs by the case because my son would throw them when they burned him. Told him you throw that light one more time you work in the dark. One of my other sons was good at positioning them under a drip too.
The only place to get rid of any light bulb is in the dump, they keep saying to dispose of acording to safty but there is no place to get rid of any of the floresent bulbs, either the long tube that has been in this house ever since it was wired in 1946 or the new twisty bulbs.
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I am buying a few at a time, but only when I find specials, and then I buy the largest ones available. The first one were the little 60w equivalent and you can't see crap.
Gene
Gene
I bought a few of those years back, they are junk. I had 2 burn out in a few months, Screw those green a$$holes. Besides the light given off is a hazy pink or something to what I remember.
It is just a bunch of BS by the tree huggers to run your life and tell you what you can or cannot buy. F-them.
It is just a bunch of BS by the tree huggers to run your life and tell you what you can or cannot buy. F-them.
landlord7012
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I've been slowly replacing my incandescents with green bulb but only after the incandescents burn out. To me it makes little sense to go thru and replace perfectly good incandescents before their time, especially since they required energy to produce in the first place.
So far I have found a few bulbs I like and a few I don't, also there are places they work o.k. and some they don't (trouble light in garage). There are places that I will continue to use incandescents until they are no longer available.
Good light,
Bill
So far I have found a few bulbs I like and a few I don't, also there are places they work o.k. and some they don't (trouble light in garage). There are places that I will continue to use incandescents until they are no longer available.
Good light,
Bill
TomH in PA
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I'm not totally convinced that they really last as long as claimed. I've replaced plenty of them, seem to go through them almost a fast as the incandescent bulbs. Usually they don't burn out completely, just get dimmer as they get older.
Not only don"t they last as long as advertised, but they grow short on light output way too soon. I am especially disappointed in cold weather performance, not coming on, or low light output. Not to mention that they are far more expensive than old fashioned incandescents. And I have seen no drop in my electric bills, or usage.
Phil in Pa
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How long before we have to go buy that shopping cart full of incandescent bulbs?
Or two carts, depending on projected life expectancy?
Or two carts, depending on projected life expectancy?
i have mixed feelings on them, some cheap ones suck, low light and short life. but some of the larger wattage rated ones do work just fine and seem to give off a light that i couldnt tell any different from incadecent unless i could see the bulb itself. i do like they for outbuildings since they draw very little power, for example our old storage barn has just a string of a dozen or more "jobsite" lights, the wire with sockets and yellow cages every 15 ft or so, they work great and the whole strand can be easily run off a extension cord since the building has no power. i also have then in my sugarhouse, the whole building is just on a 20 amp 110 circuit so the less power it takes to run the 4 light bulbs the better, since there is also a pump and blowers for the fire that need to be run off that same 20 amps
When we were in the planning stages of converting over to 100% solar electric, we did all we could to get useage down first. Not as a "green statement." More of being able to be self-sufficent. I've bought and used just about every CFL on the market over the past 15 years. General statements about them mean nothing. They vary a lot, just like tractors.
They vary by brand, by design, by purpose, by price, and by quality.
Some light instantly and work fine down to 20 F below zero. Some have a long warm-up period even when inside the house. Some last years and some burn out in a week.
They all use a lot less electricity then standard filament bulbs. Whether you care or not is totally different issue.
Also note that the mercury thing is just more BS. Yes they have mercury, and so do standrd 4' twin-tube shop lights.
Years ago, I was paying $10 apiece for some of the "twisty" lights and they didn't work below 30 degrees F above.
Now, I buy 6 packs at Home Depot for $8 and they work fine in all temps. The smaller ones rated equivalent to 40 watts burn out quick and are useless. The ones rated at an equiv. 60 or 100 watts work fine. Note I'm only referring to the "Commercial Electric" brand at Home Depot.
For a buck a piece, they're a good deal.
They vary by brand, by design, by purpose, by price, and by quality.
Some light instantly and work fine down to 20 F below zero. Some have a long warm-up period even when inside the house. Some last years and some burn out in a week.
They all use a lot less electricity then standard filament bulbs. Whether you care or not is totally different issue.
Also note that the mercury thing is just more BS. Yes they have mercury, and so do standrd 4' twin-tube shop lights.
Years ago, I was paying $10 apiece for some of the "twisty" lights and they didn't work below 30 degrees F above.
Now, I buy 6 packs at Home Depot for $8 and they work fine in all temps. The smaller ones rated equivalent to 40 watts burn out quick and are useless. The ones rated at an equiv. 60 or 100 watts work fine. Note I'm only referring to the "Commercial Electric" brand at Home Depot.
For a buck a piece, they're a good deal.
Jd are you saying you are off the grid? If so thats great. I did see your post about the pole buildings, and the building with all the solar panels on it. Does that turn sunlight into electric for your home? Is it expensive to do this? I mean the cost of the panels ect... And Can you run 110, and 220 from it? Im just interested in what you have to say about it, after seeing you pics, now seemed like a good time ask. JayinNY
teddy52food
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Do you ever turn them on?
I've got 120 VAC and 24O VAC, via twin inverters. 5400 watt solar bank. Is it cheap? No. Is it worth it? Well, that depends on why you do it. I got it as a lifetime investment. If I ever move, I can bring it with me, even to an area with no grid. Will it ever save me money? Maybe. That depends on how long I live and how high electric rates go. It will probably pay me back all my investment in less then 10 years.
Right now, if you're careful, you can get 1/2 to 2/3s of the system cost paid for, via NYS and Federal incentives. So, if you ever want to do it, now is the time.
My system on paper had a total cost of $54,000. I paid $18,000. The rest came from incentive money.
Keep in mind you cannot get NYS incentive money unless you are hooked to the grid. But, to be honest, the system won't work in NY anyway unless you've got grid-tie. The problem here in New York (especially where I live) is the darkness in Jan, Feb, March, etc. So, some months you make next to nothing, and other months you make 3-4 times what you can use. If you weren't hooked to the grid, all that extra power would be wasted. With grid-tie they are legally required to buy it from you, and later sell it back at the same price. So, they become your virtual "huge battery" of unlimited capacity.
So, just to clarify my 100% solar statement, we make more power every year then we use, from solar. That being said, we are still hooked to the grid.
Also, my system cost was quite a bit higher then conventional setups. The law requires that a solar grid tie system NOT work when the grid is down. That made NO sense to me. So I custom designed my system so it CAN run when the grid is down. That with an automatic grid disconnect and a large expensive battery bank. The batteries alone cost over $5000. So, you could do a system much cheaper. To me, it makes no sense unless it can run stand-alone when needed.
Right now, if you're careful, you can get 1/2 to 2/3s of the system cost paid for, via NYS and Federal incentives. So, if you ever want to do it, now is the time.
My system on paper had a total cost of $54,000. I paid $18,000. The rest came from incentive money.
Keep in mind you cannot get NYS incentive money unless you are hooked to the grid. But, to be honest, the system won't work in NY anyway unless you've got grid-tie. The problem here in New York (especially where I live) is the darkness in Jan, Feb, March, etc. So, some months you make next to nothing, and other months you make 3-4 times what you can use. If you weren't hooked to the grid, all that extra power would be wasted. With grid-tie they are legally required to buy it from you, and later sell it back at the same price. So, they become your virtual "huge battery" of unlimited capacity.
So, just to clarify my 100% solar statement, we make more power every year then we use, from solar. That being said, we are still hooked to the grid.
Also, my system cost was quite a bit higher then conventional setups. The law requires that a solar grid tie system NOT work when the grid is down. That made NO sense to me. So I custom designed my system so it CAN run when the grid is down. That with an automatic grid disconnect and a large expensive battery bank. The batteries alone cost over $5000. So, you could do a system much cheaper. To me, it makes no sense unless it can run stand-alone when needed.
Been replacing CFL"s with LED"s. Finally found a company that makes a reliable LED. They are expensive. Pay back is 2 years to pay for the lamps. Electric bill fell $34 last month. I have some that an 8 watt LED is replacing a 60 watt CFL. They run cool and are made of ABS plastic. Dropped one and it didn"t break. So far I"m very happy with them. I have one that"s a flood light and is 15 watt outside on a remote operated switch. It replaces a 150 watt lamp. LEDs from this company are suppose to last for 50,000 hours. I sure hope thay do.
Anonymous-0
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Do you have a link to get them online?
Thanks, Dave
olgentdc
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Bought 2 pedal tractors at Auction ,,, guess if the grand-kids don't want them ( Yeah RIGHT! ) ... Tghe Wife and I wiil GO GREEN and pedal PULL across the Fields .....
Mathias NY
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That makes perfect sense.
From the perspective of the power company the solar system is no different than a diesel generator hooked to a house during a power outage. It's just not safe to backfeed the grid when people are attempting to repair it. The automatic disconnect might make sense to us, but is probably beyond the understanding of the general public.
From the perspective of the power company the solar system is no different than a diesel generator hooked to a house during a power outage. It's just not safe to backfeed the grid when people are attempting to repair it. The automatic disconnect might make sense to us, but is probably beyond the understanding of the general public.
I"ll tell you what, I agree with you. But did you know congress has already passed a law stopping the manufacture of regular incadesent lightbulbs in 2012? So if you want to keep lighting your house the way you want, you better stock up on lightbulbs, I have/am. But the way our government is headed right now, We"ll all be back to candles because electricity will be too expensive.
Jack
Jack
Yup! but they do take a couple minutes to get bright. The light comes on, but it is dim. I noticed some new ones I put in the chicken coop are kinda dim when it gets cold out. I am kinda interested in the idea of using them in my trouble lights in the barn and garage. Those rough service bulbs don't seem to last long, and they sell for 2 or $3.
scot in pa
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I started replacing standard bulbs with the curly ones a couple years ago.
Had to replace a switch and needed bulbs, only had a couple bucks with me at valu home center, so I got a pack of GE Reveal bulbs.
Next day I went back and got enough to replace very light in the house and got rid of the curly ones.
My eyes are sensitive to UV light and flourescants bother them.
Had to replace a switch and needed bulbs, only had a couple bucks with me at valu home center, so I got a pack of GE Reveal bulbs.
Next day I went back and got enough to replace very light in the house and got rid of the curly ones.
My eyes are sensitive to UV light and flourescants bother them.
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