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Rick(MN) 11-03-2009 06:47:23 97.116.150.248 812429 Report to Moderator	1700 hrs on a Kohler isnt a over early death. I hear rumors of them going 2500 to 3000 hrs but usualy from the same guys that are getting 25 mpg from their 3/4 ton gas pickups. To run any engine out (or nearly out) of oil and then call it junk simply isnt fair. Small engines have made great strides in dependability from 30 years ago. I agree with you to the extent that it"s difficult to see plastics in an engine, but I would submit the vastly improved oil technology we have today more than compensates for it. Sorry, but without keeping it full of clean and fresh oil, you cant really judge it"s quality. [Reply]   [Send Email]
JayinNY 11-03-2009 09:08:01 67.72.98.45 812463 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Rant need to vent in reply to Rick(MN), 11-03-2009 06:47:23   Yes, we had a vertical crank 20hp kohler that had 2700hours,(and used no oil), on it when I sold it. As far as I know its still running. The horizontal crank engines have no bearings in them.   [Reply]   [No Email]
JayinNY 11-03-2009 09:03:36 67.72.98.45 812462 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Rant need to vent in reply to Rick(MN), 11-03-2009 06:47:23   Well first off, the briggs we ran low on oil is still running. I say we cooked it because, after filling it with oil it smoked like @ell, and Im not saying any engine is junk if its run low on oil do to our mistake, Im saying the quality and how they are made is junk. My Kohler 27hp is a horizantal crank engine, there is no bearings to support the crank, just the aluminum block. The crank gear is pressed on with no keyway. The cam also runs on Aluminum. For a $2100 engine I expect better. However, we have had the best luck with the Kawasakis. And thats all we will buy now. We have also learned to pay extra for the Donaldson air filter system.j   [Reply]   [No Email]