Chisel plow HP requirments

Dave from MN · Oct 15, 2009

Ok, going to look at a 180 Kiwanni Chisel Plow 11 shank with new shovels for $450 in a half hour. I have lighter soils and wont be pulling it to deep. Is this too much plow for a 1750 oliver deisel. The tractor keeps up with an 1850 so I know I am putting out more than the stock HP. The chisel will only be used for fall tillage of corn stalks. What do you think?

Bill(Wis) · Oct 15, 2009

Go for it!

Mark-Mi · Oct 15, 2009

It will pull it down the road!

heavy hauler too · Oct 15, 2009

You can all was take some shovels off.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 15, 2009

it takes roughly 10hp per shank, depends how deep soil type ect., we pulled the same 10' chisel with an 1800B Oliver, 970 case and 1850 Oliver in med. to heavy soils and got by ok

scot in pa · Oct 15, 2009

I once pulled a 15 foot Case conser-til soil finisher with a 786.

high 2 down the hill and low 2 up it.

We pulled a 9 shank with the 786 or 756 when the ground at the headlands was too hard to moldboard, but it took the 1066 to get anything done.

bradk · Oct 15, 2009

We used to pull an 11 shank with a White 2-155(150 horse)and it was a good match.We have heavier soils here.Might be OK in lighter soils.

As someone mentioned,you can take off shanks if needed.

Leroy · Oct 15, 2009

If I am understanding you corectly it is just a plain chisel plow (could be either a 3 point hitch or trail type) and they have a 12" shank spacing and unloss you have your cornstalks chopped off you will never get thru them. And 11 shanks would be 11' wide. Now if you are talking about a disk chisel that is something entirely different, they are set with a 15" shank spacing and a 11 shank would be 15' and that is what is used all the time in cornstalks as besides the blades to cut thru the stalks they have twice as much clearance as a chisel plow. For a plain chisel the minumem HP per shank was called for of 10 HP but that was at only about 7" deep and slow, double that and you would be about right, now on a disk chisel double that again to get what you need, a 7 shank disk chisel will make a 150 HP tractor bark and they cut about 9'. I had a 7 shank 3 point hitch Ford on a Ford 5000 and it would barley handle it, 5 on it was a lot better. But it would only work in non trash fields, if I had kept it I would have mounted a plow coulter in front of each shank to cut minor trash like in a bean field, no way it would have ever gone thru corn stalks.

AB · Oct 15, 2009

We pulled a fully mounted 3pt Kewanee 13ft with our Oliver 2255 after chopping and/or discing heavy stalks. Sounds just like your set up. You might have to take some shanks off as the 2255 is quite a bit more tractor. You'll want to pull it fairly deep to cover the stalks if that is your intention.

Don-Wi · Oct 15, 2009

Like they said, you can always take shanks off until you can pull it. We can pull a 7 shank disc chisel with our 1855.

A 5 shank would probably be a much better match, as with the 7 shank we can't go too deep and it can be slow going if I can't get any traction.

Basically around these parts, it's ~15 HP/ shank on a chisel or disc chisel. ~25 HP per 16" bottom on a moldboard plow. 20 works on the plow, just slower depending on the tractor.

Donovan from Wisconsin

kyplowboy · Oct 15, 2009

Don't know your ground or your tractor but I can say that the only thing I chisel every year is my 4 acres of ground for tobacco with a 7 shank and a ford 6700 turned up just a little and loaded tires is real tired when I get done.

Dave

Bob Bancroft · Oct 15, 2009

My first chisel plow was a 7 shank/three point hitch unit. !2" spacing, narrow teeth. I had it on an old 4020, but that was kind of a joke. Then I got a Glencoe 11 shank soil saver. Discs in front, 15" spacing, 4" twisted shovels. And I got an old Steiger to pull it! It was a beast to run, but I could cover some ground! Then along came Bt corn, and even after chopping stalks, the Glencoe would plug. I now have an Unverferth 9 shank-15" spacing,4" twisted shovel and pull it with a Magnum 7240 FW assist, 20.8x42 duals weighted. It makes a nice team and a pleasure to run, but I use everything that Magnum can put out.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 15, 2009

your 1750 may pull with an 1850 but the engine won't stand up as good so run it accordingly, 11 shanks on a plain old chisel will be plenty, make sure it is high clearance

kyhayman · Oct 15, 2009

10 hp per shank shallow, 15 hp to really chisel. I pull 9 shanks with a 7710 Ford, 86 hp, with 38 inch rears and lots of fluid and CaCl. Uphill on any grade or any tight spots and I can pull it.

F-350 · Oct 15, 2009

I have fairly easy pulling soil so 10 horsepower per shank works for me. An 11 shank would be plenty for a 1750 Oliver.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 15, 2009

As everyone has already said a lot depends on depth. I used most of what a 180 hp tractor offered with spikes on eleven shanks and going 9 inches deep. Ran seven but really should have run five with the same plow and similar conditions with a JD 830 set up to 90+ hp. Three or four inch wide twists will pull harder. Unless you have sandy soil or intend to just skim the ground I wouldn't do it.

Mn Dave · Oct 16, 2009

(quoted from post at 15:05:15 10/15/09) Ok, going to look at a 180 Kiwanni Chisel Plow 11 shank with new shovels for $450 in a half hour. I have lighter soils and wont be pulling it to deep. Is this too much plow for a 1750 oliver deisel. The tractor keeps up with an 1850 so I know I am putting out more than the stock HP. The chisel will only be used for fall tillage of corn stalks. What do you think?

My first chisel plow was a Kewanee 13 ft. with straight points and with our heavy soil here it did everything but stay in the ground. It did the hola, polka, jumping, lurching from side to side, everything but stay in the ground when you really wanted it to. A few years ago I bought an old DMI straight chiesel plow with straight points also, and this thing don't come out of the ground, it pulls straight and gives good fracturing of the soil. I only use it on bean ground.

Vernon in Ks · Oct 16, 2009

Dave, I"ll throw my 2 cents in. 9 shanks are going to be better than the 11. My guess is you will run out of traction before power. And I doubt you will be pulling 5 mph if you are below your compacted area. I pull an 11 shank Krause 9" deep with a 100hp Agco FWA in med-heavy soils around 3-3.5 mph and get along OK. Just out there a long time.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 16, 2009

Rule-of-Thumb here is 10hp per shank.

a.rothermel · Oct 16, 2009

i ran a 5 shank chisel plow with a farmall 806 this spring.(this ground was tough and hilly) I was going at a good speed. It sounds like your really going to be maxing out your tractor and then some.

Chisel plow HP requirments

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Member

Member

Well-known Member

Member

Similar threads