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Allan in NE

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Filled this 686D tractor on the 24th of June.

Raked 170 acres of hay, ran the auger to fill a 2,000 bushel bin and hauled the straw off of the wheat field.

I think the old sis just might make it on one tankful this season. :>)

'Course, on the other side of the coin, those two big dogs drink like a couple of drunken sailors. :>(

Allan

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How is that possible? Raked 170 acres of hay, with that little fuel use. How big is the tank on her. My 3 cylinder 55hp Diesel Ford would never do that! I think its an 11 gallon tank.
 
"Think" the tank holds 33 gallon and the rake takes a 30' foot swath.

Even so, when she's up against the governor in heavy field work, it takes a heavy handed court order to push 2 gallon an hour thru it.

However, like I say, those big guys will go thru 30 gallon a day apiece doing hard work. :>(

Allan

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Actually, the guage doesn't work, but he won't find that out until he is as far from a fuel barrel as he can possibly get with it! (My $0.02 worth. jal-SD)
 
LOL!

Always the way it happens, doesn't it? :>)

When I was just a pup, I got caught one time 4 miles from the house on a saddle horse in a March squall. Closest I ever came to freezing to death.

Found a haystack and got up close to the leeward side, pulled that old horse in close to me to use her body heat to keep me halfway warm/alive.

Point being, ever since then I pay pretty close attention to where I'm at and what I'm doing. :>)

Allan
 
Okay..........I was (kinda) buying into what you're saying......until I got to the 30 gallon per day part; not everybody on 'here' is a yuppie, wannabee farmer or small-time gardener; this ain't our first rodeo. :>))
 
I just like diesels too. All my D17D usually gets to do is cruise around, but I don't think it's that easy on fuel. Something to be said for how it makes the shed smell though.
 
I've spent a fair amount of time on a 3150 JD, seems to be great on fuel consumption, compared to the 4440 JD both tractor and combine has the same motor, though I've run his late model 7420, can only assume it is better than the 3150.

I thought the 3 cyl. ford was pretty good, but you have those beat it seems, our 3600 ford seems to be efficient for the age of it.

Deutz, on site jobs with high water tables we used to install well points, 1000'-0" runs or so, and put a 8" pump with a air cooled Duetz engine, which would run 24/7 til the job was done, refueling was minimal, seemed quite an efficient diesel.

I ran a Fiat-Allis FD-30 dozer with a V-8 Deutz, liquid cooled, decent on fuel, but both those engines mentioned, were as loud and noisy as all get out, never understood what makes them like that either.
 
Never really paid attenion to hrs on teh combines. But,doing rough figuring at gallons per acre. I am very impressed with the 2 perkins powered machines I have ran. Figureing they run wide open under a good hard load. they are less then a gallon a acre. Ones a 354 and the other is a 372. Thet have really made me want to look into the tractors that are powered by the perkins.
Bob
 
Actually, your Ford would do that if you had the same setup as Allan...
Don't forget either that the tractor doesn't work near as hard on that billiard table as it does here in the hills... He's got big, open, long flat fields. That drives the efficiency factor VERY high. I'm guessing he's covering 20 acres an hour?

Rod
 
You must have started at Midnight.

I can get 12 hours out of mine. But the tank holds 72 gallons.

When spraying it burns about 3 gallon a hour. I spray 40 acres an hour. Planting it burns about 4 gallons a hour. I plant 16 acres a hour or more.

Now plowing or discing with a 21' disc it will burn about 6 gallon a hour.

Gary
 
Let me revise...

We fill up at lunch every day. So, I would say we average 6-8 gallons per hour. The pumps are turned up to keep up with the 1586. We pull a 21' disk and (2) 20' cultipackers behind them and they still stay on pace with the 1586.
 
I guess I don't understand what you're questioning?

I've spent all summer on both tractors (966 & 1066; both turned up). Doesn't seem to make a difference which one I'm using. Takes 30 gallon give 'er take a couple per day.

And, I always work right thru noon until 6 or 6:30.

Allan
 
MF1105 and 1135 are each powered by 354 perkins, I have an 1105 and it does seem to be pretty efficient, especially compared to the JD4010 that it replaced.

I'm almost certain that there are some Olivers that have a 354 perkins in them but I do not know model numbers.
 
Couldn't put numbers to it (would be CDN gal if I could) but the most fuel efficient tractor (hp/gal) on light or heavy load I ever operated was a 2096 Case/IH with the 5.9 l. Worst was a 706. But then I never drove a 4430 JD much (worst) or a 7140 Deutz (best). Also the 2096 is the tractor I ran out of fuel the MOST times. Wasn't a big deal to get going again, just the embarassing walk that hurt.
 
No it's not. I have a 686 I.H. diesel as well and it just plain doesn't use fuel. I've had quite a few different tractors and there is something about those 686's that make them unbelievable for fuel consumption. And they got darn got horsepower and torque for their size too!
 
thats pretty good economy Allen ,, Large capacity tanks are nice til you have pay to fill em' ..LOL.... My 430 Case is a good fuel minder ,think it has about a 13 qallon tank . have to remind myself to occassionally check the fuel . got a Yanmurray that uses more fuel than the 430 and does LESSS ! and beats ya' to death .... On this farm also , got a 4020 that loves to belly up to the fuel tank every day , don't matter if its' lite work or finaly earning its keep and really working . That Deere wants more than its fair share .... on the other hand ., My 1070 Case will eat hearty when it is workin'hard chiseling deep ,.. but behaves when its piddling pulling the no til drill or making road trips pulling 16 round bales home on the tandem car trailer and wagon combination ... the only way gassers can come close to be as economical than diesels is if it is fine tuned and ran every day,,. but I still like to Make feed ,Bale ,rake , haul manure with the ol'DC and SC ,and VAC..
 
Does that 686 have the d310 german diesel or the d312 american diesel??. I have a 666 hydro and it has the d312 american. A good old horse, but the guy who traded it off knew what he was doing. It would be quieter riding in the oil pan
 
So.. you really haven't much to bellyache about.
I could carp about the 4 gph I put through my Ford 7710 when it's chopping silage... but it's also chopping 20 tonne per hour and making over 100 hp. I that context it's actually doing pretty good given I've seen some green things burn twice the fuel to chop the same silage... on the same chopper.

Rod
 
Allan, as a non farmer, I want to thank you for the continuous photos. they make the day interesting. As an IH fan and collector, Its also neat to see. The music was just the icing! (As a kid in the 60's, I remember running out near the road as the various neighbors rode by with their combines to smell if they "had a diesel").Keep it up and God bless
 
Hard to beat a Perkins for fuel economy. The Cockshutt 1850 used a 354 Perkins. The 3 cylinder Perkins held the fuel economy record for years. Many conbines used the 354 engines as well. Dave
 
Yep, they have a little beller in them don't they! I have the 312 American in my 686. But I sure do like the sound of it. I have a 4020 John Deere that I love using, but it doesn't have that same raw power sound that the 312 puts out.
 
I always like tractor stories like this. I went over to tractor data and they don't even have a 686 listed for case IH. Is this something imported from somewhere?
 
I think what Thurlow and the others are saying is you aren"t working them very hard.The norm around for a 130-140 Hp.on Plow or Chiesel or Disc is 8 to 12 GPH,10 is Normal Average.Not doubting your 30 gal.but back when they were new,some of the fellows with 14 and 1566-86s were burning 15+GPH
 
Yes Sir Allan;

You should always carry a jacket on the back of your tractor seat untill the 4th of July in case of spring rains.

And you should always carry a jacket on the back of your tractor seat after the 4th of July in case of fall squalls.


steveormary
 
Maybe because you typed in case ih .Try internation 686. I have one that i just bought they were made between 1977 and 1981 in the USA.
 
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