tlak

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Never owned an explorer but read they couldn't keep a trans in them and bad mpg.
Had a Dodge minivan, poor mileage and the trans went.


The Top Ten Cash for Clunkers Trade-Ins:
1. 1998 Ford Explorer

2. 1997 Ford Explorer

3. 1996 Ford Explorer

4. 1999 Ford Explorer

5. Jeep Grand Cherokee

6. Jeep Cherokee

7. 1995 Ford Explorer

8. 1994 Ford Explorer

9. 1997 Ford Windstar

10. 1999 Dodge Caravan

The Top Ten Cash for Clunkers New Cars:
1. Ford Focus

2. Honda Civic

3. Toyota Corolla

4. Toyota Prius

5. Ford Escape

6. Toyota Camry

7. Dodge Caliber

8. Hyundai Elantra

9. Honda Fit

10. Chevy Cobalt
 
I drive a 2000 Focus with 256,000 miles. Have replaced one alternator and a bunch of tires. That"s it. Would buy another one tomorrow without looking anywhere else.
 
I have an 01 Focus Wagon with just over 50 thousand original miles, and yes I bought it brand new. One set of tires, one alternator (what a pita changing that out), both front calipers and it now has a coolant leak that I can't find. Both rear side windows fall down because the regulators quit. I traded in an Escort wagon for this one, but I certainly would have to think twice about buying another Ford product although I bleed blue. I love my old (mid 60's) Fords, but this newer stuff just ain't what it's cracked up to be.
 
I saw a video today of a nice looking Volvo that has been traded as a "clunker" having it's engine seized. What an insane way to spend tax dollars!
 
I'm thrilled that my 83 Chevy PU with 6.2L diesel, 260,000 mi, rusted and flapping, with its own little ozone hole following it, doesn't qualify! Its one year too old! And once again the truly poor and needy who probably are struggling with a $500 clunker, can't use the program because they can't afford a car payment. They should have allowed the purchase of a used car also from dealers so the poor could upgrade too. I see a lot of nice cars headed for the crusher that a hard up person would love to buy. More proof that socialsim doesn't work.
 
owned an '01 Explorer & put many thousands of miles on it... still in great shape when traded in for a larger (more gas guzzling) F-150... one of the NICEST vehicles I've ever owned!!! (no probs with the trans either!) ...d
 
just re-read your post... about the poor gas mileage... routinely got 23 mpg on the hiway with the explorer. saw an ad for the new volkswagen (can't recall the model, was a new release a couple years ago... a yuppie mobile) and briefly considered buying one for better mileage... til I found out it got a whopping 25 mpg hiway. no thanks, I'll keep my 4 bye. On a recent road trip, we got 22 mpg hiway from our gas guzzling F-150. makes me wonder about some of these "economy cars" ...d
 
(quoted from post at 00:17:10 08/05/09) Never owned an explorer but read they couldn't keep a trans in them and bad mpg.
Had a Dodge minivan, poor mileage and the trans went.


The Top Ten Cash for Clunkers Trade-Ins:
1. 1998 Ford Explorer

2. 1997 Ford Explorer

3. 1996 Ford Explorer

4. 1999 Ford Explorer

5. Jeep Grand Cherokee

6. Jeep Cherokee

7. 1995 Ford Explorer

8. 1994 Ford Explorer

9. 1997 Ford Windstar

10. 1999 Dodge Caravan

The Top Ten Cash for Clunkers New Cars:
1. Ford Focus

2. Honda Civic

3. Toyota Corolla

4. Toyota Prius

5. Ford Escape

6. Toyota Camry

7. Dodge Caliber

8. Hyundai Elantra

9. Honda Fit

10. Chevy Cobalt

Ford exploder,,, a tad better than a chevy S-10 blazer,,, both fall apart around 100K

Jeep G/C what can one say,,, folks luv'em,,, some very good some bad.

Chrysler van,,, I luv'em,,, no one else has made one that can compare,,, I am a mechanic by trade,,, they are EZ to work on,,, perform well,,, on my second one,,, 1990 got 300K out of it and it still was going ,,, sold it and got a 2000 model in 2004 with 100K on it for 4K (paid for no payments no high dollar insurance) now has 200K,,, 24 MPG at 80MPH,,, yes i have had to replace steering rack the cam belt, lifters and flywheel,,, bout as EZ as it gets,,, errrrr could use new head lights,,, the lends were cloudy the day I got it

Folks are trading for what has been known to give good service

What grips my arse is from what i have seen and the folks that I know that have traded in their clunker is they don't maintain their cars

They are being rewarded,,, for what I dunno,,, I spec next these folks will burn their house down the help the construction market.

If I were 24 again I would buy a house 8500,,, replace the AC 1800 and trade in my clunker 4500.

Who needs a job,,, well the folks that have upgraded to these fuel efficiant cars mite,,, they are high maintance cars
 
I'm hanging on to my old F-150. 215,000 miles paid cash for it and doesn't owe me a nickle. 13 whole MPG. Just think of the gas I can buy with the $30,000 it would cost to replace it. Maybe once everyone sobers up from this drunken chirade, and the repossessions kick in, I can get a real good deal on a newer one. Of course we'll be a heck of a lot worse off after we bailout all the banks and finance companies that wrote all the bad car and truck loans!
 
Well I like my 1996 Explorer that I bought used nine years ago. It has nice alloy wheels. It sits up high so the visibility is good. (The wife also likes that)It is a four door and is handy as heck for everything. When loading small items in the back, the top window opens easily or the whole door swings up for the large items. I have towed it close to 10,000 miles behind my motor home and it works out excellent. I can get 80,000 miles plus out of a set of tires. It goes in and out of 4WD easily to get out of our driveway in the winter. The most expensive repair has been brakes which I did myself. A couple of other pluses are low insurance costs and no payments
 
This was a cut and paste list of the most popular trade in and bought vehicles.
I'm against destroying the engines because people would use those as a better replacement engine to replace a more polluting engine and the tradeed car would still be off the road.
 
My wife inherited her Mothers 1995 Crown Vic, that big great handleing comfortable RIDE averaged 27 miles to the gallon going to Canada this summer loaded to the gills with stuff for the grandbabies ,3 adults all our luggage, and I didnt feel like I was beat up when we got there, and it has STEEL in it, not a peice of plastic.
 
BIL just got a Honda FIT. He took me for a ride and I was cringing at every crack in the pavement. I would not want to be in a wreck from any direction or drive it when having a backache or headache. He likes it.
 
Certain government officials want to decide which car you will drive. They will and to some extent already are deciding what type of home you will live in. Government people, both D & R's think you are not smart enough to decide for yourself. The problem is once the rights are given up it takes a revolution to get them back.
 
Don't understand where you are coming from when you say a S-10 is only good for 100,000 miles. I have 265,000 on mine with original 4.3 and original auto transmission. This vehicle has been used pretty hard most of its life and is getting some rust but still makes 20.5 mpg going 75-80 on the interstate or 19 in everyday driving. My other favorite is Buick or Olds with a 3800 engine in them. The plastic plenum was the only bad thing I could see with them
 
Today's news at the link below says that 160,000 clunkers have been traded. If each one received $4500, that would total $720,000. But the $Billion is gone. So what happened to the other $280,000?
Clunkers
 
Administration fees. The government employees don't work for free. I suppose the sodium solution they put in the engines to destroy them isn't cheap either.
Another high dollar program was the digital/analog TV converter boxes. They give you a $40 coupon, but it cost hundreds of dollars each when you figure in the whole cost of the program.
 
I did not say they were worthless,,, around 100K they do make for a nice big fat repair order,,, pattern failures are nice to repair,,, it just goes to show folks do not look after their chit and are getting rewarded for it,,, that’s what the clunker deal is about,,, reward those who are waist full and penalize those who are not. Nuttin is free someone had/has to work for it.

I have a 93 Honda Accord 235K,, another 93 Honda Accord 210K,,, a 96 Honda Accord 150K,,, a 92 Toyota cilica 275K (my favorite) drive it like ya stole it 30MPG, take it EZ better than 35 MPG and a fun car to drive,,, a 81 Toyota P/U 4X4 180K (my baby tho a gas hog) a 94 GMC 4X4 P/U 180K (gas hog),,, a Plymouth voyager 200K,,, a 77 Ford F350 130K,,, support yer local insurance agent J,,, no payments and not skeered to drive any of them any were
 
Wouldin you know it 60% of the replacements are foreign flag owned. Now your tax dollars are still going over seas. 30000 dollars divided by 2.50 dollars comes to about 12,000 gallons of gas at 13 MPG that will take you through about 5 vehicles of that type. Chicken little story book comes to mind.
 
Amazing. I have two on the list. First is a 1998 Explorer 4x4 with 83,000 miles. Good solid ride. Second is a 1999 Grand Caravan with 185,000 miles. The Caravan has been pretty solid with only a transmission replacement at 61,000 miles that I paid for. Also had another transmission 10,000 miles later replaced under warranty. I will agree that the Explorer is a gas hog around town. However, the Caravan gives pretty good mileage.

slim
 

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