OT- hows the ford diesel pickups now?

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Ray

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• Jul 2, 2009

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Thinking of getting a new truck to haul my old tractors around.I have a 2001 duramax 1 ton dually extended cab 4x4 with 58000 miles and a 2005 1/2 ton 4x4 gas truck with 82000 miles.I thought i might trade to just one truck.A ford dealer near me has a new super duty 350 1 ton 4x4 entended cab single wheel diesl on the lot.I haven't heard if they had solved the problems they had with the new engine,or should i look at another chevy. GM doesn't have any truck discounts now,they tell me trucks are selling fine and they don't need to.

 

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kyhayman

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• Jul 2, 2009

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I'd be inclined to keep the ones you have. While its true you have two to license and insure the worst of the depreciation is behind you on them. No use taking the big hit on value with two good low mileage trucks just to have to take another big depreciation hit.

 

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Adrian Billheimer

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• Jul 2, 2009

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Just had my "04 F-250 w/6.0 Powerstroke in for oil change and inspection, was talkin to tech, the new line of 6.4 are getting worse fuel milage than my truck ( I"m getting about 15mpg back & forth to work, about 20 mi. round trip with a mountain to climb, and about 17 - 19 mpg hwy. runnin empty, and this is a 7k lb. truck)
IMO if I was lookin for a Ford now I would look at the late 6.0s. I think it was "07 they started the 6.4s.
Hope this helps.

Adrian

 

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Mike (WA)

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• Jul 2, 2009

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Guess I don't see why you've got two- I'd just sell of the gas rig, and keep the Duramax- its barely broken in, should last you forever. Use the money from selling the one to buy more tractors to haul around!

 

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NCWayne

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• Jul 2, 2009

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I haven't heard alot of good or bad about the new engines but a buddy of mine has a new F350 and it has sequential turbos...that is to say one turbo feeding another....I know CAT is using this design on their engines now for emission compliance, supposidly with good results, but we all know that the OEM's never claim to have any problems and the "good" only lasts so long. With the type of usage a pickup gets, and I could be wrong here, but I see really expensive problems before too long with two turbos instead of just one. Think about it, when one turbo goes the pieces floating around in the intake are almost certainly going to take the other or, barring that scenario, the problem that took out the one (no spool/cool down time when shutting of the engine, low oil pressure, etc) is probably going to take both.

Personally I'd keep the older, less technologically advanced trucks as they'll probably last alot longer than the newer ones. In the end I think you'll be better off but that's just my opinion.

 

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Anonymous-0

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• Jul 2, 2009

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You'd be crazy to trade your Duramax for a Ford. I have driven both a lot of miles for work with big trailers and there is no comparison. Our Powerstroke has left us high and dry twice with wire harness chafe issues shutting it down once 300mi from home and once 1200mi from home.

 

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Dalton S.

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• Jul 2, 2009

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Is is a 2008 or 2009 model? If its a 2008 it may have some problems, but if its a 2009, most of the issues are resolved and you should have little if any problems at all. They dont get very good mileage, but thats becasuse of all the emissions crap they need on there, like the dpf and egr. The DPf is a thing in the exhaust before the muffler that catches a lot of soot, but then in order for it to be cleaned, the engine sends extra fuel to the dpf to burn up all the soot, so it is self cleaning. If you get rid of this and the egr, ehaust gas resirculation, your mileage would go up to around 20 mpg. Even though it is illiegal to get rid of the dpf, I dont know about the egr, its what I'd do if I ever got a new truck. I have never had to get a vehicle inspected anyways, so I wouldnt even worry about getting caught.

 

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sbin

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• Jul 2, 2009

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I have read that changing some sensor and other maintainance requires the cab to be removed.My 93 IDI diesel F350 has 230,000 and I hope to drive it many more years.My vote would be to keep the Duramax and if you realy want a new truck buy a dodge with the Cummins.Time will tell but that is one of the best trucks ever built.

 

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toolz

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• Jul 2, 2009

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I bought a new 2008 Ford 350 4x4 dually about 1 1/2 years ago, and have been extremely happy with it. It's smooth, powerful, and quiet. The problems were worked out very early in the production run, and they have been very reliable since, a big improvement over the 6.0. I was happy with the 2000 I traded for it, but there is a night-and-day difference between the two, mostly in ride quality, noise, and power. I've got 20K on it now, and pull 10-12 tons with it about every weekend. Milage is no worse than the 2000, and if I drive it right, it will get 18-19 empty. Not bad for an 8500lb truck. I have nothing against the Cummins in the Dodges, but I just don't like the rest of the truck. I'm definately not a fan of the GM's- aluminum heads don't belong on a diesel, and I wouldn't buy anything from a company run by the government, especially Obammy. I've done some reading on the new (non IH) 6.7 Scorpian diesel coming out in the 2010 Fords, and it sounds like a beast. Might be worth waiting for, although the 6.4 has worked out well. Go drive the Ford and see what you think. Mine's a loaded Lariet, and I'd rather drive it than the wife's '08 Charger. It's definately the most comfortable truck I've ever driven.

 

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arm bar

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• Jul 2, 2009

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On these newer trucks the Ford V10 is by far the best engine available, try one out you might be suprised.

 

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630rich

Member

• Jul 2, 2009

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Oh, keep the d-max. our 01 has 109,000 and no problems yet! Pull my tractors all the time!

 

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ncdiesel48

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• Jul 2, 2009

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I wouldn't buy ANY of the new diesels, the emissions crap is killing the mileage and I don't care what anyone says they ALL are having problems. A friend of mine has a new dodge with the 6.7 it was riddled with problems directly relating to the emissions stuff. He purchased an aftermarket dpf delete kit(which voided the warranty). Since then he has put 60 thousand miles on the truck with zero problrms. His mileage increaced almost 5 miles per gallon. This emissions crap is a scam. I have an 04 3400 ram. It is one of the last ones without a resonator or cat, I just rolled 120,000 and the truck has yet to be in the shop. I would say keep what you have the duramax is a stout engine, the aluminum heads are just fine. Also if you read the owners manuals for the "new" diesels you aren't supposed to drive them on short trips because it messes up the regen cycles and will eventually fill the crankcase with fuel.

 

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Anonymous-0

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• Jul 2, 2009

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I would advise not to buy one. They get terrible fuel mileage. Ford is dumping that motor and coming out with a new one in 2010, it is a 6.7 liter V8. I would stick with either a Dodge or Chevy for now. Ford really screwed up when they let the 7.3 go.

 

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MN Scott

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• Jul 2, 2009

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Keep the DURAMAX you have. I have a 2008 DURAMAX. It has a lot of power but the emmissions crap makes it suck a lot of fuel. Kinda wish I still had my 2003 DURAMAX.

 

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Allan in NE

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• Jul 2, 2009

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I find it amusing that all the negative advice you are getting are from folks that don't own one. :>)

Allan

 

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Ntix

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• Jul 3, 2009

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Well I guess I have to speak up here 2004 f350 6.0 dually 4dr 4wd Currently has 236,648 after replacing the fuel injector wiring harness under warranty all injector problems stopped. Factory turbo, Emission system has never been touched. Had head gaskets replaced just because we thought we should (warranty) It has only been back to have one reflash of the computer done since new and will not have any done either. Oil changes every 5000 mile has always had Motorcraft oil. Truck does not have a spot of rust anywhere. If this engine ever fails I will get a Ford drop in assembly and start again.

 

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JD70D

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• Jul 3, 2009

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I have a 05 Duramax & 07 Duramax, mileage almost the same, 07 slightly better. 07 has much more power.

 

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Negligence

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• Jul 3, 2009

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I have an 08 F-350 Diesel, 4x4, Offroad, Crew Cab, etc.. I average about 16mpg (this is doing highway back and forth to work 5 days a week, then some city/country driving outside of that).

No real complaints with the truck. Drives nice, rides smoother and quieter than my half-ton (07 Ram). Diesel is not loud either. It was a good buy for me. I have the extended warranty package so I'm not concerned with any problems the truck might have.

The only downside is with it being a lot heavier is that I've gotten stuck several times this year in my fields. 4wd doesn't help much and I've got pretty aggressive tires, too. Had to get my other truck to pull it out

 

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dieseldoc

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• Jul 3, 2009

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I tried to buy one without a motor and trans. I like the fords but I hate v-8 diesels. They would not sell it that way.

 

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ncdiesel48

Member

• Jul 3, 2009

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Actualll i've owned all three and have more experience with them than you'll ever know. I wish this gentleman all the well but I am a realistic person and don't sugarcoat things.