I need to get myself, another tractor. What I want in a tractor, is as follows--20 to 30 hp. old enough to be cheap, live pto, live hydraulics, hopefully with down pressure, narrow front end, adjustable rears, and the ability to slow down to a crawl, while keeping the revs up for the pto. also I want to be able to stand up for a while when I need to, like on a H,or A JD, or a oliver 77. Now you see why I am asking for help! I just dated myself, and my experience with tractors, stops at 1960, and they were new at the time, which means I didn't get to use the new 730 JD, and was stuck with a JD 70. I want something that I can get mounted cultivators for. I love my B AC, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Also my WD45, is a powerhouse, but PTO and hydraulics suck! I also have a 335 MM, and DON'T intend to ever buy another MM. Please give me some suggestions, as I am not familiar with what was made from 1960 till now. Thanks!
- Thread starter RalphWD45
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just another old geezer
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A little big, but able to slow to a craul with rpm's up id pica a good used 656 gas hydro
550Doug
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- Southern Ontario
The Cockshutt 30 had the creeper gear as well as Live PTO, but they were only made to about 1956 and had about 30 hp. The cockshutt 540's were made till 1962 but had no creper.
Good luck
Good luck
olgentdc
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neighbor had a cockshutt , his grandson still has it .., neighbors just a memory , but cockshutt LIVES ... take a look at 300,400
and 430-630 CASE .. THEY HAVE EVERTHING YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
and 430-630 CASE .. THEY HAVE EVERTHING YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
Anonymous-0
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Deere 520 and 530's are excellent tractors but a little expensive.
pat sublett
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If you can find one an F40 Ferguson or a Massey Harris 50 are the only ones that I know That meets all of those requirements. 1956 & 57 models.
Factory equipped with live PTO and 3 point. some had power steering and some had narrow and some had single wheel. 38 hp, I think. I got a wide front. They had a quick change front end. You could change the front end in less than half an hour.
Factory equipped with live PTO and 3 point. some had power steering and some had narrow and some had single wheel. 38 hp, I think. I got a wide front. They had a quick change front end. You could change the front end in less than half an hour.
Anonymous-0
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F40/MH50's are the same thing as a Massey Ferguson 50, only earlier. They were 32hp (gas) and later MF50's with Perkins diesels were 37 hp. (still 32 hp gas)
The F40/MH50/MF50 shared the same drive train/pto/hydraulics as the TO35/MF35.
Any of those tractors have a seat that can be shifted back to allow standing.
NF/single front wheel versions are relatively rare on F40/MH50's. They're still around, but good luck finding them when you want one.
The F40/MH50/MF50 shared the same drive train/pto/hydraulics as the TO35/MF35.
Any of those tractors have a seat that can be shifted back to allow standing.
NF/single front wheel versions are relatively rare on F40/MH50's. They're still around, but good luck finding them when you want one.
Anonymous-0
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should have been posted below Pat Sublett's post (below)
Fordfarmer
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Of those, only the 900 meets his critereia. There's also the 700 but since it was only available as a 4-speed, no live PTO and too fast in 1st. If you go a series or two newer, there are the 701 and 901 and 4-cylinder 2000/4000 row crops. With the Select-O-Speed, you can move very slowly in 1st at high RPM. (The SOS's are NOT as bad as many people would have you believe)
old
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- Camdenton Missouri
Oliver 77 is a little bigger then what your looking for at 38HP but it does have live PTO and hyds. No 3 point and 1st gear is still not all that slow but power they have a good bit. Yep I own one and it is a very good tractor for what I use it for.
Hobby farm
Hobby farm
Anonymous-0
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There is a Massey 50 single front wheel listed on ebay now.
730 virgil
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- IL Wis state line near Monroe Wi
cockshutt 30 or john deere 530
The Dukester
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300 gas Farmall with flip-over seat. Cheap, parts easy to find, nice handling good looking tractor with 10 speeds forward. TA's last forever in these tractors if used right and you'll love it.
Mark Peters
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I agree with The Dukester.The Farmall 300 would fit the bill and there are some to be found, around here at least. Another one I thought of is a Farmall 340. It`s a little newer,smaller, being made from `58 to `63, and around 32 HP.Also has 10 speeds forward with the TA.Has the fast hitch with down pressure, if you need 3 pt, there is a 2pt to 3pt conversion available.I have one and it`s a handy little tractor, the only thing that doesn`t fit your needs would be the ability to stand while operating. I don`t think it would be too much fun driving it while standing for a long time, though I`ve stood while driving it for short periods.I see them for sale around here every so often in the $2500- $3000 range.
Here`s a picture of mine with a widefront. Narrow front are more common.
Here`s a picture of mine with a widefront. Narrow front are more common.
buickanddeere
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Caution around a IH/Farmal with a T/A. Some folk say T/A stands for Trouble Ahead. Others say a T/A is either "out" or "going out".
A T/A does take some time and money to replace.
As with any used purchase. The older and higher the hours. The chances of more repairs and higher priced repairs exists.
A T/A does take some time and money to replace.
As with any used purchase. The older and higher the hours. The chances of more repairs and higher priced repairs exists.
Mark Peters
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I will agree you have to do your due diligence when buying a TA equipped tractor ,but that goes for any older tractor. I also will repeat what Dukester said above-that if used as intended and NOT as a braking system, the TA was a good system for it`s time.The above quotes were said mostly by owners not fond of Farmall`s , I suspect!!
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