Citgo -- Chavez

Hugo Chavez, Obammas buddy, is changing the name of Citgo to Petro Express in the USA. Citgo sales in the USA have been going down ever since Chavez took over the company. Everyone across the country needs to know that Chavez has Iranians and Russians operating his refineries -- wonder what else they are working on? Every dollar spent at either one of these stations is a dollar to be used against the people of the USA.

Hey LAA Get over it.

Citgo has been changing to Road Ranger at their truck stops for a couple of years now also.

I agree that American's should steer their business away from Citgo - Because of Chavez. It's amazing when Americans say "get over it" or something like that, they're out of the loop!!

I don't know of any Citgo stores close to me. I go out of my way not to shop at them when I am away from home.

Dave

Yes, Thanks I will not go there anymore. I know that the Citgo near me brings in Gasoline from a bulk supplier, and this bulk supplier sells gas to other stations--Not just the Citgo.

I agree that Chavez is a terrorist, similar to those Dam Arabs. (so who is worse, Chavez or the Arabs?)

You might want to check out these stories before you repeat them. This particular e-mail hoax has been going around for a couple of years. Snopes covers Citgo in detail in the link below, the bit about Petro Express is near the bottom of the page.
Snopes on Citgo and Petro Express

(quoted from post at 02:46:32 05/06/09) You might want to check out these stories before you repeat them. This particular e-mail hoax has been going around for a couple of years. Snopes covers Citgo in detail in the link below, the bit about Petro Express is near the bottom of the page.
Snopes on Citgo and Petro Express

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Hey, they read it on the Internet so it has to be true. No intelligent folks ever have to check on anything before they relay it.

GG,

Hugo Chavez is no friend of the US, but a terrorist? Hardly. You can use a lot of words to describe him--socialist, blowhard, dictator--but "terrorist" isn't one of them. As far as I know, the only significant action he's taken in the US has been to give free fuel oil to a bunch of people.

When you equate someone like Hugo Chavez with the likes of Osama bin Ladin and Abu Nidal, you weaken the meaning of the word terrorist. No doubt it's just a matter of time before MADD starts referring to drunk drivers as "terrorists".

We use oil from Saudia Arabia. It was some of
their people that caused 9/11. Why isn't
their oil boycotted?

They don't water their gas down with ethanol. Everyone I know buys gas from Citgo.
Chavez is a paper tiger. We only pick on paper tigers. Anybody capable of fighting back is not touched. North Koreans and Chinese can do anything they want.

Thanks to MarkB for the Snopes info. As for me,
given a choice, i"d rather keep my money in the
Americas, than give it to the Arabs, so i"ll
continue to buy Citgo products. And for Chavez..
Anyone who hates the "smirking Puppet" george
Bush can"t be all bad !!

Hey greygoat, I question your patriotism with that remark. I was not happy with Pres Bush either but I don't give support to Chavez, Bib Laden, Pres of Iran etc.

Chavez is a dictator.Besides that he gave heating oil to Americans last winter.I guess in Venezuala he would be the head of Citgo oil company.He is not the bad guy Bush tried to make him into.He is just competition for Bushs buddies in Saudi Arabia.Whatever else he is probably not near as bad as the corrupt news media says he is because they were doing a smear job on him when at first he refused to jack his oil prices up when the rest of the crooks did.Eventually he raised his too,but he griped about it.So at least as far as oil is concerned he is not as bad as some,but still a crook too.Also his whole countrys economy is tied to Citgo so he didnt want to loose any customers by the bad publicity.Seems like Bush is a bigger crook than Chavez.

Chavez is a dictator.Besides that he gave heating oil to Americans last winter.I guess in Venezuala he would be the head of Citgo oil company.He is not the bad guy Bush tried to make him into.He is just competition for Bushs buddies in Saudi Arabia.Whatever else he is probably not near as bad as the corrupt news media says he is because they were doing a smear job on him when at first he refused to jack his oil prices up when the rest of the crooks did.Eventually he raised his too,but he griped about it.So at least as far as oil is concerned he is not as bad as some,but still a crook too.Also his whole countrys economy is tied to Citgo so he didnt want to loose any customers by the bad publicity.Seems like Bush is a bigger crook than Chavez.

You believe what sources you choose to believe and I will do the same. Like Snopes is a shining beacon of truth -- leftwing, America hating drivel.

Believe what you want. I can tell by your reply you believe Uncle Obammas and Aunt Pelosi's fairy tales.

Yeah, and you read your claptrap on the internet also.

T-40 -- The Venezuelan State oil company wholly owns Citgo. That was Obamma bowing down to the King last week -- not Bush. That was also Obamma who called Chavez ''Amigo'' last month. Obamma was ring kissing with America haters so much that he barely had time to bad mouth the USA in Europe.

Chevron has a refinery set up to refine Hugo oil.

Citgo is not the only outlet that sells hugo petro products.

FYI...Here"s a link to a Rueters article @ Citgo stopping their US heating oil program.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE50442O20090105

I believe what I can verify. Snopes provides sources for everything they post. You have provided exactly zero sources for your material, so that makes Snopes infinitely more credible than you. Now, if you can provide sources for your material, I'll be happy to check them out. If I find those sources to be credible I will retract what I said earlier. Of course, an email forwarded by your Cousin Elmer doesn't qualify as a credible source.

It's clear to me that you're no conservative. A true conservative would never slander a legitimate American company (namely Petro Express) based on a flimsy rumor. Since you've demonstrated that you're no friend of capitalism, it sounds to me to be more likely that you're really an [i:654c4848f0]agent provocateur[/i:654c4848f0] for Global Marxism.

I also read where external_link didnt bow.Saw the picture and so it looks like he did,but so what?Old Bush has a video somewhere that if he didnt kiss him he almost did.Almost like they locked arms and skipped off together singing"were off to see the wizard"who was Cheney behind the curtain pulling Bushs strings.Then old Cheney got in a helicopter that couldnt barely pick itsself up off the ground because it had all the china and cookware and pallets of money on it and flew out of Washington DC and people were singing "ding dong the witch is dead,goodbye and good riddance" or something.What any of them politicians do doesnt surprise me any more.

Nancy P, Harry R and BO. They're the 3 Stooges for sure!! I wonder who is really Moe in the trio?

Well I can tell you for a fact that part of that is totally false. Anyone who has travelled thru the north end of Indiana and Illinois has seen that gas stations and truck stops still have signage that says Citgo and Petro express. There is no seperation of the companys like snopes is suggesting. And if they got that fact wrong, how much of the rest of it is just leftist propaganda.

That mans enemy is my friend, only reason you are on to him is because he is akin to a commo, he did promise better standard for the peasants but ten years on he has not delivered. Does America trade with China or Russia?? so what is wrong trading with him, he does have the oil, would that be an Ace?.Bring Cuba into the fold also, don't make enemies everywhere you tread.!

T-40, what's your source of info on Chavez giving heating oil to Americans? I find that very hard to believe. Bush's Saudi buddies? What are you smoking? external_link was the one bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, not Bush.
In the Des Moines Ia area the Citgo stations all changed their name to "Star".

If Bush is a bigger crook than Chavez, external_link has to be the biggest crook who ever lived. Half of his appointments have/had tax evasion problems. He appointed a known tax cheat to head up the Federal Reserve. Timothy Geighner was given a check to pay off his back taxes. He even signed a statement acknowledging what he was supposed to do with the the check. He still didn't pay up until external_link appointed him.

Amigos, cut from the same cloth.

I'm really getting sick of people like you that bring up Bush every time Obammy screws up (which seems like every 5 minutes). Bush isn't in office anymore. I'm not concerned about what you think Bush did, I'm concerned about what the current moron is doing, and it's got nothing to do with Bush. And I'm also sick of hearing Obammy say he inherited this economy. He didn't inherit it- he helped CREATE it, VOTED for it, and wanted more of the same when he was in the nnalert controlled senate, then quadrupled the national debt in his first 90 days! Obammy says "Bush screwed up the economy, so I'm going to screw it up even worse"! Makes perfect sense to me...

Brian,

The fact that Chavez gave away heating oil to Americans has been well publicized. DPG provided a link the story in his post, which I've copied here. According to Reuters, the program "...distributed about $100 million worth of Venezuelan oil for each of the past three years."

Without a doubt, Chavez did this only to aggravate the Bush administration, given that his own citizens could have used that oil as much as the recipients in the US. But the fact remains that he did give away 300 million dollars worth of heating oil to poor families in the US.
Chavez ends free heating oil Reuters

T40, what is it with you? Chavez is a Communist!! He seized the oil companies in Ven. and pretty much everything else. Does personal property mean nothing to you? Is it alright is the US Gov'r seizes your property and possessions? This is real simple. And if you answer the question you'll define yourself forever.

Whoa,Bush screwed up the economy.Now you can say not by himself,but external_link did not screw up the economy.external_link did not vote for screwing up the economy since congress was nnalert controlled.It was all Bush/Cheney and the nnalert thugs who are still blackmailing people in congress,look it up yourself. external_link did not quadruple the debt,but Bush more than doubled the debt and we got nothing for it.4 TO 6 Trillion more debt under Bush,and none of it spent on Americans unless they were some rich jerk that owned a defense manufacturing plant or some other crooked scam.
external_link is not a saint,but you have to blame him for what he does wrong,not what you think he did wrong.In 4 years if things are worse I might even agree with you,but I dont think so.You might change your mind if things get better,but I doubt it.Too bad you really get sick of people like me,but you are going to admit it was Bushs fault and not external_links.external_link has nearly 4 years to go,Bush spent 8 screwing things up.Get mad,sick,whatever but thats where it stands.

I have to say it doesnt look good for sure.That also makes me skeptical of them fixing anything,but they have a chance and we will see.It does kind of show that all of them are a bunch of crooks.Its also like this,if you are accused of killing sombody and go to court,do you want a lawyer that is a nice guy to defend you?Somebody that wont go out of their way to present your case,somebody who is most likely to follow every law to the letter,and sure to loose your case,or do you want a crook,that has gotten hit men off his whole life?If you look at it like that,this guy has been on the other side and maybe knows what he is doing.Hes a crook,but what do you expect?A little blatant of a crook since he doesnt even pay taxes,but maybe he can figure out how to fix the mess.I kind of doubt it,but who knows.If he doesnt fix it we should hang him and a bunch more.Where are you going to find somebody to do this job he has?The wheels know if they put some crusader in there he will make them all mad and things will get worse.One of their kind is probably a good choice as long as it works.

MarkB -- On the subject of verification, your own credibility would be enhanced if you used words or phrases that you actually knew the meaning of, ie; ""Agent Provocateur"". As for guessing where your political sympathies lie, I can"t tell if you have been brainwashed by the collectivists philosophy or simply bought off by goverment handouts.

To be honest with you all I looked at was Citgo not Chavez.I dont know if he is a communist or not but I know he is a dictator and thats not good.Seizing companys I agree is not good.Not what you want your government to do,but I thought that we got along with him,at least until Bush was President.Say whatever you want,but Bush was mad at him for not jacking up his oil prices.Before that about 6 months I remember that Chavez called Bush the Devil.Thats why I rate Chavez right up there with the guy that threw his shoes at Bush.Didnt really think of him as a communist.

How short your selective memory is. We had a very stout economy for the first 6-7 years of the Bush administration, despite 9-11 and a war in progress. Nothing short of amazing, considering what the country went through. Proof that low taxes and low interest will boost an economy. Always has, always will. But we were in an unpopular (although necessary) war, and people wanted "change", so they voted in a nnalert congress in '96, and the decline started. EVERY policy, law, program, and budget originates in the House, then on to the Senate, then to the President. The president cannot originate any of these. The last year of Bush, fueled by the nnalert playground of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, went into the toilet, under nnalert rule. Obamma DID vote for the mess (when he happend to show up) and congress was controlled by a nnalert majority. Thinking people said "the nnalert will screw things up so badly the last 2 years of Bush, that they will get thrown out in '08". The nnalert did just that, but with the media's help, blamed it all on Bush. Impressive scheme, I must say, and they even convinced you. Bush was not the best president this country ever had, but his heart was in the right place. Something we do not have now. His decisions and intentions were for the betterment of the country, to the best of his ability. Now we have a president that is there for personal gain and glory. Socilaism is the goal, it's happening faster than anyone could imagine, and it will destroy our way of life weather we are nnalert or nnalert. I saw two bumper stickers on the same car today- one said "Obamma/nnalert", the other said "I'm a Constitutional voter". What could be farther apart? Unfortunately, THAT's where it stands.

Chavez gave heating oil to certain cities and groups of people. It was no more than a political bribe to get support for him from US citizens and to irritate the White House. I don't know about the rest of the people here but I remember communism and the USSR and the Cold War very well. I have NO use for communism of any sort. Mans natural state is to be as free as he can. Supporting any dictator is wrong in my book.

Well now I see why you are saying all of this.You have been listening to or reading the biased conservative propaganda.nnalert took the House of Representatives in 2006,nnalert still held on to the Senate because it takes 60 votes in the Senate.The economy went downhill every year Bush was President for all of the businesses I dealt with in my work,which were trucking companys,meat plants,freezers,people that sell fuel,oil,parts,tires,agriculture.I realize that there are some things that did well,but as the whole American economy is concerned,big companys did good,small companys were devastated.The economy for things I work with was way better under Clinton,small business grew,and Clinton raised taxes.Just like every other nnalert President Bush was obviously there to stifle small business and get rid of the competition for big business.nnalert are anti opportunity,sort of an American version of Communism,or communism lite.They give every advantage and corporate welfare to big companys,then instead of the state owning things like in Communism the big company still owns it,but dictates the laws that get passed to further stifle small business until they have it all,then they jack up prices.The Wal-Mart model of communism or whatever it really is,but its unAmerican.Also they were trying real hard to bring foreign truck drivers in here to undercut every driver in the USA.nnalert from where I see them are terrorists.This is after they ruined it for small farmers and everything else in the 1980s.George Bush is the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century.He replaces Reagan and his Daddy for worst president of the last 100 years,there is nothing good about him.He is a puppet anyway,Cheney is the uh brain,if you can call it that.
Now as for the rest of what you said,it still remains to be seen what external_link is going to do.You might try listening the next time he gives a speech and see if you agree or not.I caught a couple on the news and he seems to be trying to fix some stuff.The economy always does better under nnalert,just read history.Its ironic because the stuff that caused the economy to have the opportunity to be better under nnalert was Teddy Roosevelt a nnalert.Until somebody breaks these corporations up to where they arent so powerful,things probably wont change much.The time to fix this was to not elect Reagan in the first place.Thats all over now,so there is not much left of the United States.What you say about Bush is completely wrong.Bush was selected by rich people to run the country,crook from the beginning.
As for nnalert,well they dont impress me as a bunch of people that are going to change a lot.Too many of them are playing nnalert politics while calling themselves nnalert,which has something to do with their state as some states are completely corrupt like Louisiana.Also the ones in there now have been dealing with nnalert so long they are lots more like a nnalert than a nnalert.Then you have the just plain stupidity of the "leaders"so called of the nnalert like Reid,Pelosi,Schumer,Fiengold.What a bunch.I dont like these either.Its starting to look like a bunch of foreigners running our government.They dont stand for much any of us considers American.Im all for running these people out of politics myself.If they want your gun they are no good,and there are nnalert that are for gun control.All that crap was from Clintons administration and even Clinton admits these idiots lost congress in 1994 because of their gun grabbing lunacy.Anyway there are good Americans on the nnalert side that want to fix things.nnalert dont care and lie all the time.Politics is complicated,but to say what you did about Bush means you are completely unaware of the truth.nnalert drag the economy down,stifle opportunity and this time helped run jobs out of the country.

Actually that growth was a very bad thing. In 2001 the US was in a recession which the Fed and previous administration decided they didn't want to participate in and created the housing bubble which when the prices collapsed nearly brought down the entire finacial system.

T40, just stop responding to my posts. It's very clear you have a mental issue. Get some help.