Diesel fuel, any preference,

barn E · Mar 13, 2009

Any top tier diesel, like gasoline. Or brand that is proven to keep engine cleaner or longer life. Just asking. Dave

john in la · Mar 13, 2009

Diesel does not have a brand additive so there is no way of knowing who's diesel you are buying even if the station is branded.

With gas the only differance between stations is the brand additive.

Doug in Illinois · Mar 13, 2009

The diesel from batch to batch at our local station is never the same exact color. One time it is more towards yellow, next time might be green or almost blue. It is indeed all about the additives that are put in it, as long as it doesn't have RED DYE in it all is OK for highway use. My diesel pickup is out of commission currently, so farm use diesel not an issue. I have always paid the taxes on even the diesel I use in the tractors, the steep fines for farm diesel in a highway vehicle aren't worth the possibility of residue left in the fuel cans ending up in the truck. DOUG

Don-Wi · Mar 13, 2009

I really doubt that a little residue left in a can would be enough to dye an entire tank in your truck red. Better yet, just go to the station and fill up when it's empty.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Sid · Mar 13, 2009

When I was hauling fuel,I could go to any rack and load unbranded diesel. When I picked up a branded fuel I could only load at certain racks. I was told to be sure to put only the branded fuel in the branded tank. I could finish dumping a load of branded fuel in the unbranded tanks,but was to never put unbranded fuel in the branded tank. This was for diesel as well as gasoline. If the branded diesel did not have certain additives why the precautions. Also Why did a rep from the branded company stop and take a sample from the pumps and check it for their additives. Based on my experience I have to question that diesel does not have branded additives put in it.

Sid · Mar 13, 2009

When I was hauling fuel,I could go to any rack and load unbranded diesel. When I picked up a branded fuel I could only load at certain racks. I was told to be sure to put only the branded fuel in the branded tank. I could finish dumping a load of branded fuel in the unbranded tanks,but was to never put unbranded fuel in the branded tank. This was for diesel as well as gasoline. If the branded diesel did not have certain additives why the precautions. Also Why did a rep from the branded company stop and take a sample from the pumps and check it for their additives. Based on my experience I have to question that diesel does not have branded additives put in it.

NCWayne · Mar 14, 2009

It doesn't matter whether the "entire tank" is dyed or not. I'm not sure exactly how minute of a quantity of dye they can detect but I do know it's down into the parts-per-million, and on say a 30 gallon tank even one PPM of dye can go a long way. Basically the presence of even a trace of dye establishes guilt, so if there is enough for them to detect your getting fined, and they don't really care if you've run 1 gallon of untaxed fuel or 1000 gallons.

john in la · Mar 14, 2009

Well I will not speak for every area but here we do not have branded diesel.

At our Motiva rack that use to be Shell we can load Shell; Texaco; Mobil; Exxon; Chevron; and no name diesel. The only difference in any of the above is the account you pull it off of.
When I use to work for a common carrier I have gone to the Motiva rack and loaded 3 compartments of Chevron branded gas and you can hear the additive clicker working as it adds the additive; card out and back in and load no name diesel in the 4th compartment (because it was cheaper than the Chevron price) and dump the whole load in a Chevron station.
The only reason a Chevron station can not load Shell; Exxon; etc is because they do not have a account under those names.

I worked most of my fuel hauling career for a private carrier so I did all of the hauling for just a few stations. When I first started with them one of our stations was branded Shell. While all of our gas had to be loaded at a rack that supplied Shell branded gas we could load diesel anywhere. In fact even if we did load it at the shell refinery we most times loaded on our company no name account because it was cheaper than the Shell price.

RodinNS · Mar 14, 2009

Yeah. Keep the filters clean and changed regularly...

Rod

showcrop · Mar 14, 2009

A logger friend tells me that all of the guys out of Quebec who haul his logs away tell him that they buy only Irving and they never add PS or other additives.

showcrop · Mar 14, 2009

A friend that had a household fuel Co. got fined $3,000 because he did not adequately flush his line before filling his truck.

showcrop · Mar 14, 2009

A friend that had a household fuel Co. got fined $3,000 because he did not adequately flush his line before filling his truck.

showcrop · Mar 14, 2009

I just read in yesterdays paper that our state police and DOT have just finished their federally funded fuel enforcement training and are about to go out and start checking fuel again after many years of almost no enforcement.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 14, 2009

IT"S ABOUT TIME!!!!! I heard that a local trucker turned in a farmer that was hauling grain for someone else, using OFF-ROAD fuel, and was told by the State people that there were only 6 people in the whole state of South Dakota that could check for dyed fuel!! I would worry the entire time I had that dyed fuel in my road vehicle. I just not lucky enough to get away with it.

M w J · Mar 14, 2009

There are different grades or brands of fuel. No.2 comes up the pipeline as no.2 then it is injected with brand name additives . I have bought no.2 no brand fuel dyed. In a 4620 I could burn 12 gal per hour . The next tanker load was cenex fieldmaster and it would only burn 9 gal we have used cenex every since then . we use between 2&3 loads per year. I have seen fuel samples of different brand names of fuel some looks good some is brown and some almost turns black some grows alge and some don't. I know what I am going to use but whatever anyone else uses is up to them.

Mark · Mar 14, 2009

I think farmers should be able to run untaxed fuel in their trucks....hay trucks, grain trucks, muck trucks, pickup trucks...even their cars.

The state and Feds don"t seem to mind that I pay road taxes on the diesel I run in my tractor...as long as it"s going their way, all is well. Turn it around and you"re screwed.

Sid · Mar 14, 2009

John thanks for the reply. Interesting how things differ from one part of the country to another. I assumed that since I could only load the branded at a certain rack that it was getting additives. Could be the way computers were set up. Some one mentioned Cenex brand. Around here it, used to be anyway. considered non branded fuel.

waltdavies · Mar 14, 2009

Out here we can get High sulfur for farm use at a much lower price but its not good on the newer vehicles. I paid $1.59 last month. Some of the local stations sell off road fuel that comes out of the same tank and pump as the on road stuff then deduct the taxes. It not died so my buddy gets a 100 gals and uses it in his truck. Its more expensive than the high sulfur stuff that runs real good in the older tractors
Walt

Jerry/MT · Mar 14, 2009

The fuel is made to the appropriate ASTM and/or API spec and requires cetain LHV, lubricity, etc. I think it will be hard to find anything but ULSD. I use "off road" diesel in my tractor but it's just "on road" diesel with red dye and no highway tax on it. AS far a a brand, i don't believesome may have different additive packages but whether they are proven to improve the fuel or are merely a marketing ploy remains to be seen. Diesel is like gasoline; it's pretty much a generic commodity product.

IA Leo · Mar 14, 2009

Just who is supposed to pay for road upkeep? A 34,000 pound (ballasted) 4-wheel drive tractor with a light psi foot print on the road will shurley stress a bridge more than a 100 thousand Corollas. The problem is fairness and how do we measure it. We have bigger road funding problems ahead with the advent of electric or fuel sipping vehicles. Leo

IA Leo · Mar 14, 2009

Just who is supposed to pay for road upkeep? A 34,000 pound (ballasted) 4-wheel drive tractor with a light psi foot print on the road will shurley stress a bridge more than a 100 thousand Corollas. The problem is fairness and how do we measure it. We have bigger road funding problems ahead with the advent of electric or fuel sipping vehicles. Leo

Mark · Mar 15, 2009

Leo,

The answer of course is State Socialism. Just hand over everything to the Government from the get go....in turn, they'll take care of everything. No need in the citizens desiring to keep anything they work for, for themselves. Trust Big Government, they always have our best interests at heart. Just ask any Russian how well the collective system worked under the Soviets. They will tell you how 'we' must insure the Government always gets their share. I also expect that over the next few years of the current administration, we will get first hand experience of how it works.

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