Anonymous-0
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Is there any danger in putting my fence charger in the basement of my house? It is closer to the field I want to fence than the barn. Thanks.
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Not really, be aware that they have an internal spark gap that could be an ignition source for flamible gas if you got a leak. also you might have electronic noise in radios or TV with the fencer being so close.
The old 'weed burner" units will start a fire if they arc to dry flamible material.
The old 'weed burner" units will start a fire if they arc to dry flamible material.
Lincoln IA
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Might cause interference with your TV. This might of changed with the digital thing, and probably don't effect cable or satelite. I'm not a physicist so I don't know why, but when ever the tv won't come in clear I know the ground is weak on my fencer.
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It will cause interference on AM radio. But otherwise, no problem that I know of.
Greg_Ky your comment struck home with me. (pun intended ;-)
I had lightning hit a large tree beside a 3 mile pasture fence. The lightning followed the tree and jumped to the west side of the electric fence.
It followed the wire around to the east side of the fence and exploded a half dozen split cedar posts to kindling. It continued around to the south side of the fence until it reached a little country school building I use for storage, the electric wire was mounted on porcelin insulators all along the back side of this building.
The white paint over every siding nail head within a foot of the fence wire was burned black.
The fence ended at my gasoline and diesel storage shed, had electric power in there and was right by the fence, so seemed like a good place for the fencer. (Darwin award applicant ?? ;-( )
Lighting followed the wire connecting the fence charger to the fence and proceded to baloon the fencer case as though a cherry bomb had exploded inside. The fencer power module was blown across the room. The fencer power plug, the type with two little cartridge fuses inside, was blown into a hundred pieces with only the prongs still sticking in the socket.
God protects fools, so I had no fire in either of the buildings.
I retract my earlier post stating that putting the fencer in the house might be OK.
I had lightning hit a large tree beside a 3 mile pasture fence. The lightning followed the tree and jumped to the west side of the electric fence.
It followed the wire around to the east side of the fence and exploded a half dozen split cedar posts to kindling. It continued around to the south side of the fence until it reached a little country school building I use for storage, the electric wire was mounted on porcelin insulators all along the back side of this building.
The white paint over every siding nail head within a foot of the fence wire was burned black.
The fence ended at my gasoline and diesel storage shed, had electric power in there and was right by the fence, so seemed like a good place for the fencer. (Darwin award applicant ?? ;-( )
Lighting followed the wire connecting the fence charger to the fence and proceded to baloon the fencer case as though a cherry bomb had exploded inside. The fencer power module was blown across the room. The fencer power plug, the type with two little cartridge fuses inside, was blown into a hundred pieces with only the prongs still sticking in the socket.
God protects fools, so I had no fire in either of the buildings.
I retract my earlier post stating that putting the fencer in the house might be OK.
Anonymous-0
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Jon,I'm not laughing at your misfortune,but that is a funny story.
Anonymous-0
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A fence charger can get into the phone line and interfere with dialup on your computer.I would not have a fence charger in the house.Fence chargers are lightning magnets.
Don't think your insurance agent will like that. Mine threw a royal fit when mine was mounted outside of my barn to the wall. Said I had no coverage for fire as long as that fencer was attached to the building. I moved it 15ft away on a post and put a roof over the fencer so my insurance wouldn't be discontinued.
Anonymous-0
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I have to ask: how did the insurance agent know you had the charger there? Did they come for an inspection? Or were you worried about it, and asked the agent what he thought?
We had our fence charger in our barn all the time I was growing up and never had any problems from it. We did not charge the fence during dry months, since it wouldn't have worked very good anyway, as dry as it gets here.
To my knowledge, my insurance agent, or anyone else from the insurance company has never come out to my property. If they have, they never told me and certainly could not have seen inside the buildings. No claims either, though.
We had our fence charger in our barn all the time I was growing up and never had any problems from it. We did not charge the fence during dry months, since it wouldn't have worked very good anyway, as dry as it gets here.
To my knowledge, my insurance agent, or anyone else from the insurance company has never come out to my property. If they have, they never told me and certainly could not have seen inside the buildings. No claims either, though.
We had one in the barn that became defective - the case became charged with high voltage due to an errant wire. Electricity ran through the L hook on the wooden board against the wall fencer was mounted on... Down thru a concrete wall, up through the metal stantions, and water cups. Cows stopped drinking, were very hesitant to touch stall divider pipes, or any other metal things. Stantions had a wooden insert in the piece that closed over the neck, so cows could be latched in without getting a shock. Reach over the cement manger to clean out the water cups, you"d get a shock. Lean up against the stall divider, and reach up and touch a cows udder, and you were likely to get a shock, and kicked! Stantions and water cups mounted on them were grounded thru the water pipes, and still there were stray voltages on things. Want that in your house????
It will definitely interfere with radio. AM for sure and I think FM too. We used to have one monted outside the house and that would cause the interference.
We have the other energizer mounted in the barn.
Insurance never says anything about it. Either at the house or in the barn, and YES, they do a full electrical inspection every single year.
It's why they have low rates and premium rebates... it's called loss prevention.
Rod
We have the other energizer mounted in the barn.
Insurance never says anything about it. Either at the house or in the barn, and YES, they do a full electrical inspection every single year.
It's why they have low rates and premium rebates... it's called loss prevention.
Rod
I have one in a little shack that I use to strip tobacco in. Don't know if I would want on in the house or not. My little one in the shack (Gallagher M80) will make a radio pop and it will bugger with a cell phone some times.
If you are going to go this route, a lighting diverter is $20 very well spent. Check it once a week or so and make sure it's set right and PUT IT OUT SIDE THE BUILDING!! They will save a a high doller fencer but not if the barn/shack/home burns down around it. My big fence has been hit twice the last 3 years. I have only been out a bucket of insulators.
Good luck.
Dave
barn and high dollar charger saver.
If you are going to go this route, a lighting diverter is $20 very well spent. Check it once a week or so and make sure it's set right and PUT IT OUT SIDE THE BUILDING!! They will save a a high doller fencer but not if the barn/shack/home burns down around it. My big fence has been hit twice the last 3 years. I have only been out a bucket of insulators.
Good luck.
Dave
barn and high dollar charger saver.
Dave Sherburne NY
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Google "Electric Fences" lots of info there Check out this one It seems the most important part is the ground
Electric fence
Electric fence
olgentdc
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I KNOW,,U .R RIGHT..Serveral years back this time of year , on this place, Dry cardboard box with aluminum scraps blowed over hill and up against fence line ,Didn't think too much of it ., TOO beautiful warm day to collect garbage again , had work to do ,, It was kinda breezy , then i smelled smoke and I had minor feild Fire to put out ,. Electric fence arced on scrap inDry BOX = FIRE !
Ole Shovel
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Lightning and stray currents but that can be dangerous by your barn too. Having the outlet wired right and a good ground away from the buildings a ways with several ground rods and lightning arrester.
Anonymous-0
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When in doubt, keer it out...
How's that for a ryme???
Seriously though, you'll have to make a hole and run a wire inside anyway, so why not make the hole and run a wire out? In the worst case, set you a post 10 to 20 ft from the house with a plug on it and put your charger there with a good ground rod. Only extra work would be setting the post, and a little expense for the electric wire and receptical.
I'm no inspecter, but I think you'd have trouble making a claim if your house burned because of a fence charger.
Good Luck,
Dave
How's that for a ryme???
Seriously though, you'll have to make a hole and run a wire inside anyway, so why not make the hole and run a wire out? In the worst case, set you a post 10 to 20 ft from the house with a plug on it and put your charger there with a good ground rod. Only extra work would be setting the post, and a little expense for the electric wire and receptical.
I'm no inspecter, but I think you'd have trouble making a claim if your house burned because of a fence charger.
Good Luck,
Dave
Anonymous-0
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How much fence are you talking about? A solar charger or one that uses a car battery would be the safest bet and no running extra wires.
Dave
randallinMo
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I wouldn't put an electric fencer in my basement. I had a similar situation. I put my electric fencer inside of a plastic five gallon bucket with a lid and hung it from a post. Has worked good for 2 years now.
Anonymous-0
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That is the heighth of Neckiness........... You just inspired me. I'll be doing the same thing to make my pstures look a little neater.
Thanks, Dave
Anonymous-0
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The old weed burner fence chargers could start fires.They could burn through small live trees and soggy cedar fence posts.The weed burner fence chargers never had UL approval.They can start grass fires.If your charger has a plug in pulser on it get rid of it.
Anonymous-0
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Ever gave a thought to what would happen if the fence got hit by a bolt of lightning,?
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