plow hp

Anonymous-0 · Feb 20, 2009

looking at getting a 60 hp tractor 4wd how many bottom plow can i pull how many does everyone else pull i live in pa

Anonymous-0 · Feb 20, 2009

Three fourteens should be plenty.

Whitetrash · Feb 20, 2009

I have a 100 h.p 4x4 and pull 4x18 semi mounted plow. I only have 2-175 pound weights a side and no fluid in the tire. Plowing grass land it will spin. If you are going to plow gardens I'd get a 2 or 3 bottom fully mounted.

RodinNS · Feb 20, 2009

3-4 16's depending on the soil... and how fast you want to go. With MFWD and a lot of ballast you can slog a big plow around if you have an older or heavier series tractor. You just won't pull it fast with 60 horse.
As long as conditions warrant it, I'd go with a larger plow and drive slower rather than a smaller plow and drive fast... though it is good to have a plow that's reduceable if you do get in a tough situation.

Rod

paul · Feb 20, 2009

Tires & weight of the tractor play a role too?

Sounds like you might be getting a small utility tractor or a large compact tractor, which are not typically set up for heavy tillage?????

3-14 would be the most I would try with what I am envisioning.

--->Paul

sammydwm · Feb 21, 2009

Depends on your soils, if you're plowing sod or stubble, weight of your tractor, a variety of factors.

Have pulled 5x14s semi-mount with an Allis D-17 sloooow though
3x16s trailer with a JD 720
4x14s trailer with a JD 730
4x14s semi-mount with a farmall 460

Wouldn't bat an eyelash at 4x14s or 3x16s if the tractor was weighted right.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 21, 2009

So many variables. Weight of tractor, size of tractor, tire size, and most important, soil. I have 1983 67 PTO HP MF-690 8000 lbs 2WD 18.4X30 rears 500 lbs front weights. Have pulled 4 x 16 inch, have pulled 4 X 14 inch, have pulled 3 X 14 inch. Soils very variable. Seem to pull 4 X 14 about right, but can plow about as much ground with the 3 X 14 because can increase ground speed, less wheel slip, etc. I would figure about 20 PTO HP per 14 to 16 inch bottom, little better with your 4WD. Tom

OliverGuy · Feb 21, 2009

I remember several years ago needing to disc a smaller field quickly, so I used our 53hp 4WD Kubota. I thought it would be quicker than my old Farmall M. Boy things were going slow, so I hooked that M on and it outpulled that "53hp" tractor like it was nothing. Then I learned for sure it"s not all about hp, but torgue, gearing, weight, etc. It sure depends on what tractor your talking about, but the guys here will help out that"s for sure. Can"t beat an M and 3 bottom for the $$$.

Doug Cotton · Feb 21, 2009

I have a neighbor who pulls 4-14"s with 730 diesel. I pull 10 bottom with 8520T usually around 18 inches wide, but plowing 12-14 inches deep at around 4.5 - 5 mph.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 21, 2009

Tell me Tom, Is it George Bush's fault that a 60HP 4wd tractor can only pull 3X14"'s in your world? Everything else is by your account

RAW in IA · Feb 21, 2009

3-14's with a 60 hp tractor? We pulled 3-16's witha Farmall 350 or an M. Very seldomhad any problems with the 350 pulling it, unless the ground got real hard and dry.

Bob seND · Feb 21, 2009

That was a stupid comment.
20hp per 14" bottom is about right in our soil
Bob seND

Mark · Feb 21, 2009

10 18" bottoms, over a foot deep at 4-5 mph...I"d like to see that. I ain"t calling you a liar, but that just can"t be so....unless you"re in pure sand.

rrlund · Feb 21, 2009

That's what I'm thinking too. That 60hp is no doubt engine hp,not PTO and especially not drawbar.

Mark · Feb 21, 2009

If this man is buying a new 60 horse tractor...2-16"s will be plenty, 3-14"s on a perfect day.

I bought a new John Damned 4WD, advertised as 55 pto horse (5320) and my 3-14" Ford 101 plow made it's tongue hang out. I eventually had the pump turned up..dynoing 82 pto horses now....and just barely an adequate 3 plow tractor. Oh sure.....I should have went and traded it back in and ate $8,000 depreciation and bought a REAL tractor...no thanks. John Damned should have put some weight and innards in these new gutless wonders they build. But in all fairness.....all the new junk is made that way. No iron in the a$$ and they turbo a small cubic inch engine way up for Horsepower...but there is no torque to go with it.

That last good utility JD made was the 55 series ie., 2355. That is essentially what you get in a 6000 series now...along with a $50,000 price tag.

I've been around several D17 Allis'.....a fine tractor in it's day...but I have yet to see one that could handle 4 plows around here. I do have a neighbor with a D19 that would handle 4 plows and even at that....the black smoke rolled out the stack. The first 5 plow tractor I ever seen around here, was circa 1964-65. It was an 806, dualed on the land side and knowing the owners....I suspect the injector pump was dialed in for the Moon.

buickddeere · Feb 21, 2009

1 to 12 bottoms depending. 3 to 5 will be ideal without knowing more info.

thurlow · Feb 21, 2009

IT ALL DEPENDS; this comes up almost weekly, "How big a disc can I pull?" IT ALL DEPENDS........2 ways to find out; hook it up to a 2 or 3 or 4 bottom plow and try it; ask your nearest FARMER neighbor what he thinks. I can pull one or two bottoms MORE in my hills/creek bottoms than folks 20 miles West of me can pull in the Mississippi River Delta gumbo.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 21, 2009

That WASN'T a "stupid comment" if you know Tom.0043's history. What makes for a "stupid comment" is when you jump in on something that you know NOTHING about, such as YOUR comment there Sparky!

RayP(MI) · Feb 21, 2009

2 Wd MF 180 just plays with 4 16" semi mounted in my soils. Thicker clays at FIL'S made it work.

Paul from MI · Feb 21, 2009

I pull 3-16's with my JD D, pretty stock tractor around 42 hp & 6500# weight. I pull 2-14's with my JD B around 22 hp & 3500# weight. Either tractor handles it's load very well in our medium soils. It's as much a matter of weight and balance and hitching the plow correctly as it is horsepower. Hitching the plow correctly makes a huge difference at the end of the day. No fun fighting side draft all day!!
Paul

MGTPa · Feb 21, 2009

Didn"t know so many folks were still plowing fields. Around here, in southern Pennsylvania other than the Amish, no-till farming or no-till planting has been going on for years. Soil erosion has been dramatically reduced. Big savings in fuel, and wear & tear on equipment. I"ve been to farm auctions where primary tillage equipment goes cheap and off to the scrap yard. Probably depends on regional farming practices.

BOBM25 · Feb 21, 2009

I'll agree with that. Maybe 6-8 inches deep. 14 inches is pretty deep.

Stovepipe · Feb 21, 2009

I imagine that should pull 3 or 4 16's. Stay on the safe side and you'll pull it easily. Go too big and you won't be pleased.

Doug Cotton · Feb 21, 2009

I AM in pure sand. I have to go that deep to get the soil as loose as possible for growing potatoes. The looser the ground, the better the final product. The plow I have (KVERNELAND) pulls much easier than the WHITE plow I used to use. The bottoms roll the dirt much easier. I didn't believe it either until I tried it. I all but called the salesman a liar also when he told me that I could pull this 10 bottom plow easier than I could pull my 8 bottom 20 inch WHITE plow. I can pull it easier plus on this plow, I also pull a BRILLION crow foot cultipacker. If you want pictures, emial me at [email protected].

Anonymous-0 · Feb 22, 2009

im doing veg stuff. just was talking to a guy going to do strip planting. hes going to let computer do hes driving. what works for grain guys doesnt work for everybody.

630rich · Feb 22, 2009

pull 4-16 trailer plow with my 630 in 3rd gear.

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