crappy newer trucks

Roy Suomi

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My'05 Silverado with 33,000 miles needs all the brake lines replaced....What the heck happened to 7 or 8 years down the road ???? Must be that nice calcium/brine water that's being used on the roads nowadays in the winter....
 
Sure is tha salt, and the cheap steel too. I had a 02 silverado 26,000 miles the calipers rusted so bad they locked up. My 84 and 89 chevys have only had 2 pairs of calipars from then to now. The 02 silverado was a lease, dealer wouldent cover it, Tail gate wires both rotted threw in less than 2 years. I beat the hell of that crap truck and turned in, instead of buying it. Glad I did.lol
 
Would seem they ought to last longer than that. Just replaced the rear brake & fuel lines on a friends '98 Chevy plow truck.

If you are going to bend up your own, go to Summit Racing and get their coils of stainless tubing. 20 ft is around $35 for 3/16 & 1/4". It's pretty tough stuff to flare, but it's the last lines you'll ever have to put on. It's the only stuff I'll use on anything I plan on keeping.
 
I agree there is something wrong there. I got a 01 chevy 2500HD, snow plow truck with bed mounted salt spreader, it has over 150,000 miles on it and the brake lines are all still original and show very little to no rust. It has been a plow truck its whole life. Jeff has got it down, stainless lines are the only way to go.
 
Well, since the only thing they have in common, is that all the replies concern GM, you might contact the National Highway Safety Administration, and report it. Then hopefully, if enough others report this problem, they can order a recall.
ANYTHING to help push GM, and their crappy products, over the edge, is a good thing.
 
Being as we have GM haters on here!!! My brother bought a new FORD in 94. He always had it services by dealer. At about 60 thousand he took in for service told them to check brakes because they didn't feel quite right. They were wore out and corroded they had ti replace most everuthing. That pickup was not driven in salt. I have 94 chev (cheapest one made) just turned over 90,000 and never been touched and brakes are still good. So I don't think you can blame it on just one manufacturer.
 
There is not one good pick up out there don't care who made it. They ain't pick up's anymore . They are oversizes cars with a utility bed where the trunk should be . The only thing that i ever thought was a nice option was A/C as for the rest of the junk to keep yuppyville happy is a waste . Myself i do not need heated leather seats or power winders or a C D player carpeting or a half dozen cup holders or shift on the fly fourwheel drive . I can get out and get either mud or snow on my boots BEFORE i get into trouble . Now ah days ya can not open up both doors and turn the garden hose loose on the inside to wash out the mud and cow shut or to settle the dust on the dash board . Ya have to buy a one ton to do what and old 3/4 ton would do . Ya can't work on them and even the dealer can't fix them . And the new ones fall apart faster then the old ones. Think that the last good truck i had was my 73 Ford F250 4X4 . But it even had weak points. The biggest being the Dana 44 ft. end . and oh the old 360 and the ten MPG. But with the on farm engine replacement with a SCJ 428 that solved the problems of low power and low gas mileage . After the 73 it was down hill from there.
 
I never could figure out why they mandate all the other safety stuff but the most important thing like a solid brake line they don't care about.

Check out the underneath of Toyotas they used to use a better lasting coated lines on them. They still might.
Sister had a 1985 and the lines were still good and the parking brake still worked too. Had 175,000 miles and had been driven in the Ohio salt too.

I saw a company on the internet that sells lines made from some alloy not to rust but easy to work with. They had it bent up like a pretzel shape in the ad. I think Volvo and Mercedes used them from the factory.
 
Every new model, representatives from the big 3 sit down at a board meeting. Moderator says okay, this year Ford you have the bad trans. program. Chrysler this time you get to do the bad brakes. GM your trucks are going to have noisy lifters. OK rock and roll. See you in a year for other assignments. Dave
 
Tractor vet your about right. Myself I'll stick with the older rigs, I'am still running 1976 pickup[GM], 1983 ford [bronco],1984 van{GM}, 1971 1800 loadstar[international] and more , yes I'am a car nut I guess. But you will not see anything newer than a 1990 here.I can at least do my own work on them, no matter what it is. And yes I have sold some and mabey sell some more but not to get any thing newer.
 
Just found out that I can have a full size 4x4 (size/weight compasison) for 1500 +/- a little bucks. Seriously thinking about having my brother get me a pre 1980 Ford and send it to me. He's still driving his 79. It had almost 400k miles on it about 20 years ago when he replaced the original motor (300 6).


Dave
 
I have heard that a lot lately, with GM and Chryco. The same with brake rotors. I think today"s steel is not as good.
 
Government will soon mandate the replacement of vehicles more than 5 years old in order to clean up the air quality, and improve fuel effeciency much like the Japanese do. Of course that will also "Stimulate vehicle sales, improve sales tax receipts, improve secretary of state receipts, decrease unemployment and reduce scrap prices" as a side benefit. The new vehicles will be produced in countries without any EPA in order to keep our environment clean. Get ready for the "Change".
 
Has anyone ever tried just painting the new lines with some Rustoleum after install? I have been meaning to try it the next time I put lines on. I would think it would prevent the salt damage quite a bit. I suppose it's kind of the weakest-link thing though, it only takes one rust hole.
 
I have had good luck coating the ones on my truck with a spray grease called Endura. Anything like that should help keep ahead of it.
 
my brake lines just corroded thru on my 2000 Silverado.Just back of the front wheels, along the top of the frame where it drops down to go under the cab. There are holders that hold the brake lines, that trap dirt & salt & form the perfect rust-making contraption. This is behind the plastic inner fender so hose can't wash it out. Then behind that the lines have wire coiled all around them making another corrosion trap. Working on one line & broke the one next to it! All those lines need replaced but you can't run them where they were because they put the lines on, then dropped the cab & bed on at the factory.
 

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