Fertilizer in no-till

NY 986 · Jan 29, 2009

The neighbor and I were talking about putting down potash and phosphate. A lot of no-tillers put down at least potash via broadcast method.
We know there are tools made that can incorporate nutrients (via slicer disc) without tillage. Anybody had any experience with these implements? Did you save money on fertilizer?

Jon Hagen · Jan 29, 2009

We no till all crops and use JD 750/752 single disc opener no till drills with the seperate placement fertilizer option to place all fertilizer and seed in one pass.

In wheat, we place 11-52 with the seed and mid row band urea for nitrogen between the seed rows. For salt sensitive crops like flax, we place no fertilizer with the seed and mid row band a blend of nitrogen and phosphate
(11-52 and urea.) For pulse crops like field pea and soybean that fix their own nitrogen, we mid row band 11-52 only.
Wheat, flax and peas are planted in 7.5 inch rows, with soybeans in 15 inch rows.

The claim is that your crops get better use of banded fertilizer than broadcast. They say that narrow bands of fertilizer make it less avalible to the weeds and soil bugs between the rows and no loss from laying on the surface.

Have used this setup for 15 years in the central ND clay loam soil.

rrlund · Jan 29, 2009

I band dry fertilizer with the no til corn planter. Doesn't get much simpler than that.

NY 986 · Jan 29, 2009

Jon, I was wondering if your drill is the split single box or double box configuration? I just was looking at some old 750 literature and was thinking about your comment.

msb · Jan 29, 2009

Potash is very mobile in the soil and most corn roots feed in the top two inches in the soil. Broadcast the Potash and band the Phos. with your planter. That is the way I have been doing it for right at 20 years.

Jon Hagen · Jan 29, 2009

Actually it is both, it has the split grain/starter fertilizer box and dual metering system and an additional full size box in front of the grain/starter box with fertilizer metering system for the mid row band setup. For years I have tried to get an answer as to what the 752 designation means, compared to the later ones which were labled 750 with or without the optinal front seperate placement fertilizer box.
The mid row band(seperate fertilizer) attachment used to be avalible as a kit to convert a single box drill into a double box drill.
One dealer told me that a 750 that was factory built with both starter fertilizer and the mid row band setup was labled 752, with the two meaning it could place two types of fertilizer.
It sounds reasonable, but I have no hard print telling me that that is what 752 means.
Interesting that the 752's serial# tag says 750 while the painted number on the drill is 752.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 29, 2009

I think with a broadcaster a larger quantity has to be put down compared to a combine which places it where the seeds are and not everywhere else.

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