OT: poor economy? Seniors and people in casino's sure foo...

Dave from MN · Dec 26, 2008

Spent a night at a Casino suite that we had won in a raffle, spent a short(very short) time in the casino area. It was packed, packed, packed. No high rollers that I seen, just hundreds of seniors and what looked like middle to lower income people spending hundreds if not a thousand dollars an hour on electronic slots. They looked like young kids hooked on nintendo. I watched on person put $1000 in a machine in less than an hour. I would say MN has a serious problem with gambling addiction. I also think the stock market has had less of an impact on SOME people's retirement than what they have squandered while there. It was humerous to see people get all excited to win a $100 after putting in a few hundred, and then watch them dump that winning $100 into another machine. Sorry, had to vent and share my thoughts, I now see how some people that I know having default mortgage issues, yet have high incomes, that also visit the casino regularily, are in the pickle they ar ein. Just foolishI say, but that is my opinion, if you do it, it's your business, just dont complain to friends about your money woes.

M Nut · Dec 26, 2008

Guessing it was the casino across the lake from me? I spent .75 there one time when I went there 1 time to eat at the buffet with some friends. They got my .75 in the slots, but I did a fair amount of damage to the supply of items in the buffet lines!
Like you say though, it is just like the slot players are in a trance. My neighbor who used to work there said she saw some people who would sit there so long they actually pass out and fall off the stools.

Spook · Dec 26, 2008

My wife has a Pet grooming shop. Her best customers are the retired ones. They have pensions, social security, investments, and health care. I think our generation, without pensions and employer paid health care, are gonna be hard pressed to match our parents retirements.

Jason1Pa. · Dec 26, 2008

There is no question that time/money at the casinos is a BIG problem. Has been for years and its only getting worse. Its the people who can not afford it that go the most. That never seems to make any sence to me. However there is a big push for casinos in here Western Pa. They seem to think that building more of them will help the economy/make jobs. That is not the answer!! It will only make things worse. Think about the Romen Empire for a secound. Here are a few reasons why if fell apart. Gambling,Ladies of the evening,Drinking,Sports.. What do we have now? And they say history repeats it's self..

Eric SEI · Dec 26, 2008

I went to Argosy Casino in our county seat with our department at work, company paid for the buffet. I lost $2 on quarter slots and $1 on nickel slots. I thought "this is rather boring" and haven't been back.

I was prepared to play Blackjack, but the cheapest table was $10 and that was too high for me.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 26, 2008

In my county, the casino boat has just passed its 10th anniversary here. In that 10 years, I've been on their property 4 times, but I've never set foot on the boat. I've always heard you should only gamble what you can afford to lose,and I never felt like I could afford much more than the meals I bought there. But I've seen Creedence Clearwater Revisited, and two local bands there [one twice], so I don't feel like I've lost anything.

But there's a local golf course that closed after somebody there allegedly absconded with the golf course's cash and lost it at the casino. So it's not always their own money these folks are spending; while other crimes in the region may actually be down, I believe that embezzlement may be up.

msb · Dec 26, 2008

Never could figure why anyone would gamble their good money away considering the stacked odds are always in favor of the house.

NEKS · Dec 26, 2008

I am fairly close to 4 of them and said years a go they would be hay sheds by know. I guess I miss judge people a lot.

Dave from MN · Dec 26, 2008

The food WAS awesome, we had a $50 voucher for a meal so we went to that steak place in the casino, oh my goodness, I had a THICK 2" sirloin that was a tender as angel food cake, apparently all but their tenderloins are aged 6 months or something like that. No seasoning just a great tender steak, wish I could find a meat locker to let me try aging one, no one ever wants to hold longer than20 days.

Goose · Dec 26, 2008

Some fifteen years ago, I went to a weeklong automotive paint school in Reno, Nevada.

When I went, I set $50 aside as my gambling money with the intentions of saying to heck with it when the $50 was gone. I came home with $30 of it. After the second day, I simply got bored with the whole schtick and started looking for something else to do.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 26, 2008

you'd be surprised what folks get addicted to......... I've seen people wipe out entire paychecks on nickle and quarter slots.

Dave

Prez B O · Dec 26, 2008

Sucker and his/her money are soon parted

John B. · Dec 26, 2008

Years ago gambling was illegal because so many people were going broke and losing everything.

Seems like a repeat if you ask me!

I wrote an essay in highschool 34 years ago and said that farming was actually a form of gambling. You put the seed in the ground and gamble that you get a crop to sell and when you sell you hope to get back more than you put into it.

Crem · Dec 26, 2008

Yeah, those gambling boxes in the bars also gobble up a lot of money. I saw a guy stick $80 in one in not too long of a time.

GeneMO · Dec 26, 2008

Self imposed tax.

Gene

rodgernbama · Dec 26, 2008

It's looking more and more like that to me to Spook. I've been working for 36 years and 28 of them at the same place. The whole time I've seen benefits such as health care decrease and Social Security benefits decrease. If this trend continues younger workers won't have much to look foward to in retirement.
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Jack a · Dec 27, 2008

You forgot heavy imigration, hired high paid professional army, army being spread out throughout the then known world.

Gun guru · Dec 27, 2008

I also think that casinos are a very evil thing. I used to work with a gal whose parents went to the casino alot, they always won money, she never told me how much they lost though.
I wish I could shut down all the casinos with the stroke of a pen.

Fawteen · Dec 27, 2008

Always amazes me that the "state" can have organized gambling giving thousands, if not millions, of people the opportunity to p!$$ away money they can't afford to lose because they use the income from it to "benefit the people."

WTF?

Just let the local Barneys find out I've got a nickle-dime-quarter poker game going in the kitchen and they'll be all over me like a cheap suit.

Sigh.

MarkB_MI · Dec 27, 2008

Ten years ago Michigan voted in casinos in Detroit. The idea was that it would help out the miserable economy in Detroit. Windsor, Ontario to the south of Detroit already had a casino, so people figured it couldn't hurt.

Well ten years later, guess what: Other than rampant gambling addiction, very little has changed in Detroit. One of the casinos is in Chapter 11. Detroit is, by all accounts, one of the worst cities in America. Crime and unemployment remain high, while the city continues to struggle to remain solvent. To be sure, the auto industries problems haven't helped, but casinos certainly haven't saved the city.

tlak · Dec 27, 2008

I knew a kid in the 70s that worked as a dish washer and made maybe $50 a week. As soon as he got his paycheck, he would sit at a pinball machine till it was all gone.

BOBM25 · Dec 27, 2008

You might as well keep the casinos. Its my experience that people are going to gamble if they really want to. Legallay or illegally. Its human nature. Who wouldn't want to turn a buck into a thousand? I follow football pretty close. Every once in awhile someone brings one of those boards to me for a big game and wants me to buy a square. $1 or $5 a square? Sure I'll get in on that. Then you got the a**hole that wants 50 or 100 bucks a square! No thanks. Its just like everything else. Some people drive responsibly, others don't. Some people eat responsibly, others don't. Some people drink responsibly, others don't. Some people gamble responsibly, others don't. Alot of elderly people enjoy the occasional bus trip to the casino. They get to socialize with people their own age. It gets them out of the house and keeps them active, which is healthy. I enjoy a day at the stadium with my buddies one or two times a year. $60 dollar ticket, 10 for my share of gas, 30 for food and beer. My grandma would have way more fun at the casino with her friends for that same 100 bucks. End of the day, we're both out the money.

tlak · Dec 27, 2008

Gambling, lotto, sweeps, and others are a theoretical way for the poor to get out of their poverty. More people will probably gamble as the economy gets worse. I don't fault poor people, what are their other choices, gamble in the stock market, get two McDonald's jobs?

Michael Soldan · Dec 27, 2008

Actually it is the way that governments get back all the welfare money, mother's allowance and social assistance money. I read a bumper sticker that said"Lotteries are for people who were bad at Math"

Paul from MI · Dec 27, 2008

Last casino I was in was in Lawrenceburg, IN 2 years ago. Went there with some friends while our wives were at a convention. Rest of the guys gambled all afternoon. I spent $15 on beer and sat outside watching boat traffic on the Ohio river. Very pleasant afternoon!! My job has had enough gambles and taking chances in it to last me a lifetime, I don't get a thrill out of looking for more. Real gamble is planting seed in the ground and hoping to make money at the end. Just my opinion.
Paul

lucas boy · Dec 27, 2008

went to casino in indiana to see what its like. they send me book every month to stay free in motel there.. now i go and stay/eat there,but dont gamble. its pretty nice.. i saw alot of money go into slots while i was there. a guy told me in vegas casino has to pay back certain percentage to winners, in other states they dont have this law...

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