Off topic but on season

Paul Janke · Dec 14, 2008

With it about 15 below outside I was thinking about how we are told we should buy LED Christmas (Holiday if you are PC concerned) lights. We are told they are much more energy efficient. For lights in the house, the inefficiency means the "wasted" energy gets turned into heat instead of light. This is winter. We aren't using air conditioning. Just how is this wasted energy supposed to be getting wasted? I better get off my soapbox now.

Walt Davies · Dec 14, 2008

We call that an Oxymoron??????
Walt

This is what i woke up to.

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bjb in NE · Dec 14, 2008

Individually one person switching doesn't save much energy at all, but this is a problem of scale. If EVERYONE switched there would be a measurable difference. Plus switching to LED's have other benefits. They last 1000 time longer than incandescents, which could mean less dead string and less waste at the end of the life cycle. Every bit of energy savings helps

Larry D. · Dec 14, 2008

Hey WALT.... What manufacturer did that Garage/Shed for Ya', I'm doing some Figuring On One, to be Built soon something 24x24, Two Roll-up Doors walkin and Two Windows. Larry KF4LKU

JDemaris · Dec 14, 2008

I guess the argument is - those lights are, in essence, little coal-burners since that's where most of the electricity comes from in the US.
The heat certainly isn't being wasted if inside - just not using the coal-fired generators as carefully as a CFL or LED light.

The outdoors could stand some wasted heat here to get rid of the ice. 8 degrees F this morning, but supposed to warm up a lot. Just took these photos an hour ago. Took my dog for a romp up in fields and it's like walking on broken glass. Many trees bent over and touching the ground. I was suprised to see the one sunflower still standing.

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Steven f/AZ · Dec 14, 2008

I believe the problem with light bulbs and the heat they put out is this: a light bulb does [b:37e2184465]not[/b:37e2184465] provide [b:37e2184465]efficient[/b:37e2184465] heat. A furnace is designed to produce heat, and thus does it more efficiently than a light bulb.

I changed our most used lights over to the CFL bulbs and tinted the windows and noticed a difference on the electric bill the next month.

rrlund · Dec 14, 2008

Just my 2 cents worth here,for what it's worth. If you're gonna build one,I'd go 24x36. Put a car or pickup in that 24x24 and you barely have room to get around in front and behind it. It'll matter if for some reason you want to jack up the front and rear to do a brake job or something. Yes,you'll do one end at a time,but you'll have to move it ahead or back to do the other end.

Jeff B. · Dec 14, 2008

My shop is 24 ft deep and I hate it. If it was 30 I could park a truck in it and actually be able to walk around it.

Walt Davies · Dec 14, 2008

What shed I don't have one. OH! you mean my neighbors pole barn. Yea! that is nice.
Walt

ArleninOr · Dec 14, 2008

Walt, still snowing down your way? East of Portland and still coming down hard and fast. Three 4x4 trucks and they are all out as the kids had to go to work. Leave dad with 2 wd to go to work. Good thing I don't have any more kids. Keep warm.

Keith-OR · Dec 14, 2008

Hey Walt, I have a picture of almost the same view from your house, except in mine everything is green...lol

I was suppose to be in your neck of woods today, but they cancelled our training. Because of the weather across to whole state.

Sheana still brings up the subject on your better-half"s doll collection..

Keith & Shawn

buickanddeere · Dec 15, 2008

The heat emitted from an incandescent lamp is ever bit as efficient as an electric baseboard heater.
For all intents and purposes. A 100W lamp gives off 100 watts of heat at 100% efficiency.
So heat from fridges, freezers, stoves, water heaters, appliances, lights etc. Is only a waste during air conditioning season.
Given the price of electricty vs. fosil fuels in most states and provinces. Purchasing flourescent and led lamps will never ever pay for themselves outside of the airconditioning season.

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