Energy Machine

Time to check out the Joe Newman website again. I don't know how to provide a link, maybe some else can. Just google The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman.

How are Americans who are supposed to be educated. Not able to understand the most basic laws of physics?
It"s as simple as this. Can you take a barrel of water. Remove two gallons of water, add one gallon of water, remove two gallons of water etc. And never have the barrel go dry?
Same goes for these perpetual motion machines. Who are these dopes that think they can exist?
The only gains these perpetual motion machines generate. Is cash from foolish investors.

"Americans that are supposed to be educated"? When was the last time you checked out the public schools? There's a good reason that we're tail-end Charlie in science and math. Teachers of those subjects have to demonstrate understanding of teaching methods, but not of the subjects they teach.

Hey . . . Canadians are Americans too. There are gullible people everywhere.

That being said, Joe Newman's "inventions" have been debunked many times. It's all crap. He also seems to get very angry when asked specific questions.

The conventional "laws of physics" are being disproven, almost on a daily basis. That because there is so much that is unknown - including huge amounts of what is being called "dark energy" that nothing in conventional science has been able to explain. "Conservation of Energy" has been partially disproven, just as Newtonian Gravity was - years ago when the study of Quantum Physics became popular.

None of this has anything to do, however, with Mr. Newman's scams.

Americans are educated!
Math, science, engineering, all take too long, too hard and don't make enough money. Business and management degrees are a quicker way to get a great paying job and fast advancement!! Just look at AIG, Lehman, WaMu, and the Big 3

I've always been proud to be a diesel mechanic, and when my son got his B.S. in engineering, I was astonished at the amount of degrees were handed out for business administration (nearly 3 to one to all other disciplines)

What about the DUMB folks spending $400.00 for a "magic heater" that puts out the same 3.41 BTU's per Watt as a $9.95 special from WaldoWorld?

If they worked as claimed, they too would defy the laws of physics.

DUMB DUMB DUMB!


(Of course, they don't "burn" the air in the room, as the commercials say!)

Lotsa poor folks with business degrees though. Like my engineering prof told me, you can always earn a good living as an engineer, but you won't get rich. You can get rich with a business degree, but you won't always be able to earn a living.

You know I hate it when everyone just automatically blames the schools for all the poor students. Most of you haven't been in the school of today. I will be the first to admit that many teachers cant teach. That said, most of us can. The attitude when most of us were in school was that the kids needed to do good in school so they can do better than their parents. Today the attitude is that school is a waste of time. I'm lucky to get one third of my kids to do their work. To get them to take notes is next to impossible. If I write them up their parents or the principal will chew me out for being too hard on them. We had a new teacher not get their contract renewed because he refused to regrade a child of an "important" member of the community in order to get their grade from a B to an A. Believe me, most of us try as hard as we can. BUt we get no support from parents, administration or community if we try to hold the kids to the standards we had years ago.

Ok done venting. Thanks for reading my opinion.

I'm sure some teachers are inspired and intelligent. I am also, very sure, many are not. When I was in grad-school, I sat along side many already-working teachers who had to attend night classes to get their mandatory MA degrees.
Many were clueless dumb-bells who could not make it in any other profession. And, to add insult-to-injury, I was told by several professors that they were required, by school policy, to hand out Bs at minimum to all working teachers attending classes.

I'll also add that one doesn't need to attend school of today to know what's going on. I've got four kids all run through the public school system and I had many a run-in with idiot teachers. Our "new" kid, now five, is getting home schooled.

One more thing. I don't blame all the failings of public schools on just the teachers and overpaid administration. Many parents can be blamed as well, since many regard the school more as a day-care center than a place to learn.

My daughter got as far as getting her Master's in education, and had a couple years of substituting at a local school, but when it came to deciding on a profession, she realized she couldn't handle the crap that teachers have to put up with from schools, especially the "no child left behind" mandates. She now teaches, but in an industrial/commercial setting. I'm not blaming the teachers alone, I think the whole public education system is broken, and I believe it started when Carter established the unprecedented federal government involvement in the schools.

I'm pretty hard on schools & public education.

Teachers are not the problem. Like any profession there are good & bad, but all the materials & effort are there.

The problem is not the teachers.

It is society, and using the school as a daycare, not concerned about any education happening.

Politicians dream up ideas, administrations get busy pushing paperwork & goals, special interest groups push their narrow and costly agenda, parents just want 7 hours of free day care, and that leaves nothing for the teachers to work with.

--->Paul

Politicians schools do a fair job- notice they are private schools and don't have to follow some of the politicians laws for 'public' schools. Amusing that Carter sent Amy to public school while external_link is sending his kids to Quacker school- Sidwell friends, same one Chelsea Clinton was sent to. Teachers unions have difficult time organizing religious schools- headman in say Catholic schools answer to 'highest power'. RN

If you look carefully at some of his videos it becomes obvious how the machines work, and none of them produce more energy than is put into them. The only thing this guy is good at is convincing gullible people that he know's what he's doing.

Notice that he never provides any hard data regarding the energy in versus energy out relationship of his machines. If he can't get more energy out than he puts in, then his machines obvously don't do what he claims.

If they work so well, lets see him produce a practial application where he can compare how much energy it takes to run his machine against how much energy it takes to run a conventional machine doing the same work. Until he can do that, he's just blowing smoke.

It just irritates me to see how little common sense people have nowdays.

Keith

"Same goes for these perpetual motion machines. Who are these dopes that think they can exist?"
Ever read about an Atmos Clock. No energy or mechanical power put in and self powering, and more taken out to run the clock. Appears that it could run indefinitely, other than parts wearing out.

Is it only in America? Here in OZ,A politician has just written a letter to the Education Authority suggesting the marking of papers in RED is harmful to the child and causing health problems and should be discontinued.
If it wasn't laughable ,it would be funny.

I like Henry Ford's accounting practices. Put all the money that comes in a paper sack. Put all your bills in another sack. Take the money from sack #1 and pay the bills in sack #2. The rest goes to the bank. What more business training do you need.? This is a fairly true story. It still works. I had 7 years of technical training, but this I knew from 12 years old. They told us then in radio school, most businesses fail because of money practices, not lack of technical expertise. Course the Lord has got to help you too, or you don't have much hope.

Here's what Wikipedia says about an Atmos Clock.

"Atmos is the brand name of a mechanical clock manufactured by Jaeger LeCoultre in Switzerland which doesn't need to be wound. It gets the energy it needs to run from small temperature changes in the environment, and can run for years without human intervention. ts power source is a hermetically sealed capsule containing a mixture of gas and liquid ethyl chloride, which expands into an expansion chamber as the temperature rises, compressing a spiral spring; with a fall in temperature the gas condenses and the spring slackens. This motion constantly winds the mainspring. A variation in temperature of only one degree in the range between 15 and 30 degrees Celsius is sufficient for two days' operation."

It certainly does take in energy, in this case from the heat that causes temperature changes in the surrounding air. If it were held at a perfectly constant temperature, it would eventually stop running.

I have a watch that never needs to be wound, either. It gets the necessary energy from a small solar cell embedded in the face.

Once again, the idea of perpetual motion is shown to be nonsense.

Keith

By Wiki's explanation of perpetual motion, it appears like this clock is one based on the first principle of producing free energy to run something and they go on to mention clocks in particular. So by their definition some things are some form of perpetual motion machine, while their third kind to date is impossible to produce. I think we're there but haven't conquered the common perception of a perpetual motion machine, like generating free energy for cars or homes.

WIKI also says;
Basic principles
Main article: Thermodynamics
Perpetual motion violates either the first law of thermodynamics, the second law of thermodynamics, or both.[citation needed] The first law of thermodynamics is essentially a statement of conservation of energy. The second law can be phrased in several different ways, the most intuitive of which is that heat flows spontaneously from hotter to colder places; the most well known statement is that entropy tends to increase, or at the least stay the same; another statement is that no heat engine (an engine which produces work while moving heat between two places) can be more efficient than a Carnot heat engine. As a special case of this, any machine operating in a closed cycle cannot only transform thermal energy to work in a region of constant temperature.

Machines which are claimed not to violate either of the two laws of thermodynamics but rather are claimed to generate energy from unconventional sources are sometimes referred to as perpetual motion machines, although they are generally reported as not meeting the standard criteria for the name. By way of example, it is quite possible to design a clock or other low-power machine to run on the differences in barometric pressure or temperature between night and day.[2] Such a machine has a source of energy, albeit one from which it is quite impractical to produce power in quantity.


[edit] Classification
It is customary to classify perpetual motion machines according to which law of thermodynamics it attempts to violate:

A perpetual motion machine of the first kind produces energy from nothing, giving the user unlimited 'free' energy. It thus violates the law of conservation of energy.
A perpetual motion machine of the second kind is a machine which spontaneously converts thermal energy into mechanical work. This need not violate the law of conservation of energy, since the thermal energy may be equivalent to the work done; however it does violate the more subtle second law of thermodynamics (see also entropy). Note that such a machine is different from real heat engines (such as car engines), which always involve a transfer of heat from a hotter reservoir to a colder one, the latter being warmed up in the process. The signature of a perpetual motion machine of the second kind is that there is only one single heat reservoir involved, which is being spontaneously cooled without involving a transfer of heat to a cooler reservoir. This conversion of heat into useful work, without any side effect, is impossible by the second law of thermodynamics. What may prove more useful is to explain the existence of hot reservoirs to begin with. A hot reservoir inside an internal combustion engine is created by a spark igniting fumes which contain stores of chemical energy. The temperature of the fumes increases above that of the surroundings. This is not a perpetual motion machine since the ability to raise the temperature above that of the surroundings depends on finite chemical reactions always less than the total heat energy and mass-energy contained within the system. Since there are far more states in which heat distribution is closer to thermodynamic equilibrium than states in which heat is concentrated in small regions, heat will tend to smooth out over time to lower power densities of increasingly unusable forms.
A more obscure category is a perpetual motion machine of the third kind, usually (but not always)[3] defined as one that completely eliminates friction and other dissipative forces, to maintain motion forever. Third in this case refers solely to place in the above classification scheme, not the third law of thermodynamics. Although it is impossible to make such a machine,[4][5] as dissipation can never be 100% eliminated in a mechanical system, it is nevertheless possible to get very close to this ideal (for example, flywheels that can spin for hours). Moreover, in certain quantum-mechanical systems (such as superfluidity and superconductivity), dissipation-free "motion" is possible. In any case, even if such a machine could be built, it would not serve as an endless source of energy, since any energy-extracting mechanism would also serve as a dissipative force.