Pulling a no-till drill

slouderb

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I am just curious if anyone out there knows if a JD 5410 with MFWD could pull a 15' no-till drill loaded with beans and do a good job without tearing up the tractor.
 
3 pointed or pull type? Hills or flat ground? We have a 15' 3 point mounted Case IH that if you load it will bring the front end of the JD 4430 up everytime you lift it.
 
If you are talking a JD 750 or equivalent you are about 50 hp and 5000 pounds too light. We used to pull a 15 foot,750 with 4450 MFWD and at times it was a mouthful for it depending on soil conditions, and hilly ground.You might be able to pull a 10 footer on flat reasonably solid ground with a 5410.
 
neighboor pulls a 15' notill 750 w/ a 4320 Deere, or two 750's in tandem w/ a 4640 no problem. Depending on soil conditions, i bet that 5410 Could pull that drill, but it would be hard on it....
 
Way too small. Neighbour pulls his 15 ft'er with a 4wd Ford TW-20 and still gets into trouble sometimes.

They tried their NH 8160 on it once just for fun. Even with the powershift they couldn't make decent time.
 
How come a Deere drill pulls so hard? The soil conservation district had a Vermeer no til that they rented out. I don't remember the width,but that thing didn't seem to pull like you had anything back there. Maybe I just had enough power on it so as not to notice?
 
I thought that it would be too small for a 15' drill. But just thought I would ask around and see what people would think.
 
Number one,you didn't say what drill.They all pull about the same except JD with the dolly wheels which will not stand wet cond.at all.Weight is your biggest problem.For close to 20 yrs.I pulled 15 and 20 ft.750s,1560s and1590s and once for grins two 15 ft.750s with a JD 4030 ballested right at 5 to 5 1/2 MPH,but I have also buried a 200++ 8000 Deere in wet water ways pulling 1 15Ft..I don't think much of the 5000 Series but IF you have DRY conds. and not alot of acres and put a little wt.on it then go for it.
 
I pull a11 row KINZE with the rotary hitch no-till with a JD730D with duals and two weights on each wheel.I only plant at 4mph as to get more accurate seed placment.I have planted 1000s of acxres that way poor peaple gots poor ways
 
I don't know what power a 5410 makes. I have pulled a 12 foot Great Plains no-till drill with a Oliver 1855 (100 horse) and a Oliver 2255 (about 160 horse). This drill is all the 1855 wants, up a very slight slope with a full box will almost stop her. The 2255 pull it just fine. I suspect about 140 horse tractor will handle a 15 foot no-till on level ground.
 
Nope. We pull a 15' Sunflower with a 7510 and that's about as low as I'd go on it. Got a neighbour who tried pulling a 15' 750 with a 2955, as soon as he started going across a sidehill the downhill rear axle on the tractor snapped.
 
I can tell you I used to pull a Great Plains 15' then a 20' no-till with a Case 1070. Had enough power to pull it 6 mph. Had to drop a gear on the bigger hills and once in a while in the clay when it got wet. Only problem was with the GP's you take a lot of weight off the rear of the tractor. Must have lots of weight on the rear axle or fully loaded tires and duals. I think you could pull 15' with 80 horse but I assume the tractor is kinda small. Those ole Case's have two things most tractors of their age and newer tractors their size don't have. First is lots of iron and second is tons of torque. As far as tearing up your 5410... probably not the best idea for hundreds of acres but a few it would be alright, if it were a Case, no problem but a Deere... ehhh! Had to get that in there!
 
If you are not on hills and have enough weight on the tractor it will probably work alright but I wouldn't transport it on the road with a light tractor, especially full of beans. We use a neighbor's 15' 750 and this year I hooked it to my Case 600. It handled it fine on the level. On the one hillside strip it wanted to push you around while turning for some point rows. Last year we did the last two fields using our Case 400. The hydraulics were a little slow on these old tractors though. The guys who own the drill use their 2wd 7720 JD w/duals. the 7720 has much more hp than needed but the duals and the extra weight really help on the hillsides. Another neighbor that uses the drill puts his 8520 JD on it, now that is just overkill.

The 600 weighs a little under 10k lbs @ about 80hp another ton on the tractor wouldn't hurt. The 400 is under 60hp and about the same weight.
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