(800) 853-2651
SHOP NOW

Guns

F

farmer boy

Well-known Member
Why is everyone on here so obsessed with guns. I don't own any guns. Do you have them for hunting or just for the heck of owning a gun or for personal protection. It seems to be more the americans than anyone else. I may get bashed for this but why anyone needs 5-10 guns is beyond me.
 
Because our constitution gaurantees us the right to keep and bear arms and the abundant wackos would like to disarm usso they can do what they want to in this country just as Hitler did in Germany in the 1930"s.As for me they will get my guns when they pry my cold dead fingers from around them.Otherwise they will get"em 1 round at a time!If we are not careful history will repeat itself and that is what will happen if the liberals succeed in disarming the people.
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!You hear idiots talk about"common sense gun control"There is no such thing.All that is is a foot in the door to a gun registry and that would lead to the confiscation of all guns such as hunting rifles,shotguns and hand guns.the only "gun control"needed is to be able to hit what you aim at!
 
So if I want to take my oozi into church that is Ok just a question or let my five year old take an m-16 or other hand gun to school to school that is Ok
 
Ok make it a 16 year old. But what if he thinks it is ok and some other authorities says it is not that is gun control.Just some questions
 
I forgot to add I was driving tractors alone at 6 years old.probobly not the best idea but I did it and the only person that could possibly get hurt out in the middle of the field was me not to be a smarta$$ it was a 4020
 
It's kind of a cultural thing. In some parts of the country and that is just what people do.

Own'n 10 guns is not being obsessed. That is just a good start. Some people around here own 10 guns of their own before they get out of high school.

The reasons for own'n guns is about like old tractors. Some people have them to use to put food on the table, colecting, or as an investment. I feel the curent rush on AR type guns now is out of fear and those wanting to make a quick buck. When the assault (or anything looking mean) weapon ban was in place bre-ban AR were selling for over twice what post bans were going for on the used market. While $1100+ seems like a high price to pay for a gun, if the new powers that be put a new, permanat ban in place they will be worth a whole lot more that what they were a few years ago. While if the goverment tries to take away firearms, they will be priceless to have.

Hope this helps you figure the deal out some.

Have a nice day.

Dave
 
I slightly disagree with amarillo as we already have good restrictions. Like convicted felons are not allowed to own guns thats a good one. But then there are some nonsense to like when clinton outlawed "assault rifles" which was based on on cosmetics. Nothing to do with function not that is a case of someone in control of which they know nothing about. Also more than 10 round mags that was stupid too just get more mags you can drop a mag and slide home another in a matter of a second. But their so called common sense gun laws are anything but common sense because the only ones you are taking the guns away from are law abiding citizens not the criminals thats why they are criminals they dont care how many laws you pass they pay no attention and so what does that so called common sense gun laws leave you with, unarmed defenseless law abiding citzens ripe for the picking. Don"t sound like any common sense involved in their process to me.
 
First they have to be old enought to handle the gun given them and taught safety and how to use them which comes from their guardian don't blame a kid for improper training. I have been handling guns since I was 7 and with no nonsense and no accidents. Also for your information my friend at work when he was a kid him and a friend use to take their rifles to school and during mid day break they would go to the woods behind their schools and shoot squirrels and all their principal said was don't be late boys and don't make a mess with you squirrels. No body got hurt except the squirrels. It all has to do with personal responsibility which seems to be going downhill fast.
 
Hey there;
Personally I think we have enough "laws"!! All
"they" NEED to do is enforce them. WHY should the decent citizenry be deprived of his/her
"right" to own as many guns as they want??? IF
"they" take our guns away, do you THINK that the
criminal element will surrender theirs,HA HA HA HA HA!!! I've seen bumper stickers that read,
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws WILL have
them"
Bob
God Bless
 
Well lets see.
my 22's are for plinkin
My 30-30's and 12GA's are for huntin
My 38 spec and .380 are for protectin
And the 2 burried AKM's with 1000 rounds are just incase.
 
while living in the west for almost 20 years I have drank many a cup of coffee with friends wearing a side arm all trucks have at least one rifle have seen a couple of times where folks working cattle sunday afternoon had hoster and side arm in church with horse in trailer in parking lot. Local sheriff in western Montana once commented to moterest who hit deer and just broke 2 legs asked driver why didn't they shoot the amimal. He expected all vehicles to have at least one gun with them.However last time I went through new jersey on 95 right besite tne big apple (in my opinion thr big apple has already been ran through the horse) sone iodit shot the windshield of the peterbuilt. slug stopped in the windshield right in front of my face. I enptied my side arm .I know I got the rear window as it shattered. Didn't see any blood buy the car shore took off in a hurry
 
Fair enough question. Yes, I suppose it is a cultural thing. I grew up on the high plains, where guns were ubiquitous. The image of a rifle in the back window wasn't a stereotype, it was simply commonplace. Most of our dads had been in the service and pretty much everyone owned at least a couple of guns. We did a bit of hunting and plinking.

Anyway, I've picked up a number of guns over the years. I don't hunt anymore, but I do enjoy taking them out and shooting at targets from time to time. I also enjoy the connection with history; my favorite guns are those that are historically significant. I have no interest in the "black" (AR-15 style) guns that everyone seems infatuated with these days, however.

I have three stepsons. One is a self-described gun nut, one has some interest and the third has no interest in guns whatsoever.
 
There are 6 guns you should own, as a minimum.

1. Shot gun---pump 12 gage, short barrel for home defence.

2. Shot gun--12 gage auto loader.

3. Solid deer gun---bolt action .30-06

4. Lever action---.30-30--another deer rifle

5. AR rifle---.223 caliber----Get a good one
like Armalite, Bushmaster, Remington.

6. AR rifle----7.62 caliber---Same names as
above.

And if you have the money and storage space buy up what you want, like handguns, extra rifles of all calibers, buy lots and lots of ammo too in case the gun ban crowd taxes the 3rap out of it.
 
We just had some old fool in Toronto get "praised" by the media and the police.
He turned in his Dad's 1916 German officer's Luger with matching serial numbers and original leather holster. In exchange for a digital camera "worth" $100 suggest retail price.
Police praised the man for "getting a dangerous weapon "off the street"?
A few years back some fool old women in Newfoundland who had been listening to the women's TV brainwashing shows. She turned in an officers pistol from the Titanic.
Both these mistaken and other fools thought the guns were going to be either re-sold through legitimate channels. Or donated to museums.
Not so, there historical antiques were cut up and scrapped.
 
Hunting and varmint control is what they are for. They all serve a different purpose just like owning 5-10 tractors. You don't use a big 4wd to pull a garden cart and you always have one when you need one.
 
Americans may seem to collect more than people in other countries, because we can. Guns are relatively affordably and the government hasn’t regulated them out of reach.

Sure 2 or 3 guns might cover all possible need, just like 1 or 2 tractors might be enough. I think it’s pretty easy to understand how people may end up with dozens of guns. It’s a hoarding instinct. The same reasons anyone consciously acquires more of anything than they actually need. It’s not a bad thing and is actually an integral part of our economy. If everyone only bought exactly what they needed, our economy would essentially stop.
 
Farmer boy, you were just asking to get bashed by the way you phrased the question.

1st mistake: You don't accuse others of being "obsessed" just because they choose to own something that you have no interest in. By your standards, owning a bowling ball shows "obsession" if you are not a bowler.

2nd mistake: You don't assume that everyone is else is wrong in their judgement if your judgement tells you their actions are "beyond me".

Or maybe I just missed the announcement that God had put you in charge of thinking for everyone else on this earth. Warning - Arrogance will usually get you bashed up pretty good. You might consider getting you a gun for self-protection. Then at least one of the purposes for owning a gun will no longer be "beyond you".
 
It's not about 'need'; it's about rights. It's not about duck hunting; it's about rights. It's not about self-protection; it's about rights. I guess we automatically assume you're a citizen of the USA, 'though many of those who frequent these forums regularly are not. If indeed you are, are you at all familiar with the Constitution? Most folks are initially drawn to this board because of some interst in tractors/agricultural implements........of some type. Some of us live in a city, some in the wide open country; some are children, some semi-senile old codgers; some male, some female, some indeterminate; most of us think a self-styled "farmer boy" would already know the answer to the questions posited.
 
Both me dad and my brother hunt. So we have many guns.
2 410 shotguns from when me an brother first started and teacing others
3 12 gauge shotguns for us to hunt now
2 muzzleloaders for muzzleloader gun season
3 22s for varmint
looking a a high power rifle for nuisance deer and there are 3 or 4 guns that are family heirlooms.
 
I have guns for many reasons.I have 3 military rifles because of the history behind them.I have 3 guns that my wife gave me as presents.I have 2 that my uncle gave me because he wanted be sure I got them.He gave a 20 ga double to my son for the same reason.I have a Winchester 94 I hunt with.I was with a friend when he bought his in the mid 50s.Every time I pick it up old memories of a friend who has past on come back strong.I have a Savage 22 lr over 20 ga.Jim had a 22 over 410 that we went squirrel and partridge hunting with in the 50s.I have a 357 revolver that made a burgler drop a short handled sledge hammer when he saw the gun.I carried a Charter Arms 38 revolver during my Constable days.I admire the workmanship in firearms .I carry an S&W 38 when traveling.At 71 I need an edge.One day you will need a gun to protect yourself or family,it wont be there because of your ignorance.
 
I've got a couple "scatter guns" , A Brit 308 , a 22-410 , A Springfield 22 , A Mauser ..No hand guns..I feel better having them around..You just never know when you need an equalizer..Beside , I bought them right..Couldn't resist the price..
 
I have guns for trap shooting, certain guns which are better for upland game and some which are designed to handle large loads for geese. I have 2 guns which were my grandfathers and will recieve 3 more, all of which will be handed down to my grandchildren, sons and probably a son in law. I have a slug gun for my area of deer and a rifle for rifle area. I have 22's of all sort because each is unique and has a different purpose. Some day the guns I have may just save your life or your freedom, or may be borrowed to you to save your family from a socialist government. Guns in my and neighbors families are like family heirlooms.
 
I guess most of the responders presume everyone knows,so why say it, the reason the second amendment is important enough to be in the constitution. It is, or at least in the past, was, impossible to impose a tyrannical government on well armed citizens. The first thing would be tyrants do is disarm citizens. The rest is easy. I seriously doubt that there are many people in the USA today who could define tyranny, let alone revolt against it.
I think we may have passed the tipping point and a majority of the people believe the purpose of government is to take care of them.
 
This "obsessed" gun owner uses the shotgun to keep the dirty, messy pigeons out of the buildings and the rifle to take care of the possibly rabid coons, possums and skunks. Living in the country puts us in the same arena with animals that play by some pretty gory rules and sometimes we have to follow their rules to protect our health and property. How do we control those four legged weeds we call deer (you know, those 'cute bambies' that kill and injure thousands of people each year) if we don't have guns? Jim
 
They think the world is coming to an end...........

I personally have 3. All I need? I reckon!A shotgun for birds, a 22 for squirells and such, and one 30-30.I dont deer hunt anymore, so I may end up selling it.
 

I'm from Canada and I don't have a need for a gun. To say it's all about rights is kind of wierd. Do you use every last right you have?
 
Americans take great pride in their rights and freedoms. That is what America is all about.Our founding fathers laid this out pretty clear and our veterans have fought for them for decades. When someone trys to take them away that is when we get bent out of shape. If you don't exercise your rights, they have a tendency to slip away.
 
I used to hunt I understand the fever but the majority of the guys I hunted with seemed to think getting drunk and going out and shooting anything that moved even Bambi you know the spotted ones.Some guys would be so hung over they could hardly walk but managed to get up in a deer stand is this a safe practice ? hunters let me know what you think.
 
mine are used for several purposes, hunting, personal protection,the .22s are for target plinking, cheaper to shoot them than a larger protection gun, i have several just for this purpose couple in the house, 1 in each truck 1 in the car, [saves on carring back and forth] when we travel i put 1 in the suitcase so we can have one with us in the motel without being seen to have it,[ we always drive to where we are going, no airplanes these days] i havent had to use one to defend myself since 1982, and hope i dont have to again, but i also will not allow me or my family to be harmed by some of these criminals that are out there just looking for a score either, i will always keep my guns i dont care what some eastern dude gets passed into law, as far as the 2nd amendment it is clear and it is not to be changed
 
those are not hunters, those are drunks, out for a hoot,we have them during hunting season here, they get on area ranches and shoot at everything they see water tanks, tractors cattle horses signs, anything will do,several of my friends that own ranches have a new rule for these people if your on their land without their permission your going to jail they dont care why, there just tired of getting the place shot up, its their private land and yes they can do that, even if its thousands of acres of woodlands, now a 'hunter' is the fella or several who, come the opening of the season has spent several months of his free time studying the movements of deer, elk or whatever critter he has in mind to get, he knows where they travel, he knows where they water, he knows where their bedding areas are, in the area he can hunt, on opening day he is in the woods the nite before sober as a nun on sunday morning finds his animal takes it and is home with it by 2 pm so he can dress it out
 
Sounds like you got everything in the right order.I gave up on hunting for the reason for fear of my life when a drunk or druggy gets mad with a gun anything can happen. Well sir happy hunting and bag a big one.
 
They aren't tractors . They are dangerous weapons that you don't need 10 of. Just my opinion. I never said you were wrong I just don't understand.
 
Do I use every last right I have??? Every single one!! I'm minutes away from leaving to go to church; but I can choose whether or not to go. I choose to assemble....either here or on a street corner. I voted a couple of weeks ago......for the least offensive (to me)candidate. The list goes on......... Lots of folks have trouble telling 'rights' from 'privledges'; does one have a 'right' to drive an automobile? Been sitting reading the Sunday paper......about Zimbabwe; citizens (subjects, really) are eating temites to keep from starving to death. A couple of decades ago, they were exporting food; not sure what 'rights' they once had, but evidently 'the right to keep and bear arms' wasn't one of them. Maybe I talked 'down' to you in my earlier post; some topics are interesting from a philosophical point of view. Some things are interesting/important because they affect who we are, how we live and how future generations will live........
 
Is everything in your own life based only on absolute need only? I doubt it. You could certainly survive without a computer or keyboard, yet you seem to be using one.

I've got over 50 guns, and I'd have 1000 if I had the money. I like shooting, I like looking at them, I use a few of them when needed, etc.
 
To collect Them =D. Dad Sold An M-60 in the 80's to pay off the house but should have kept it... Worth around $25,000 last i checked.
 
Old guns are sort of like old tractors. Why do we own them well we like and enjoy them. I collect guns when I can and would own a good many more if I had the $$ to do so. I enjoy hunting and shooting them just as I enjoy working on old tractors and using them.
 
that is the stupidest statment I've herd this month. oh and we have somany guns because for Christmas we're invading Canada. The plan is to kill your men rape your women enslave your children destory the cities and loot everything we can. Maybe we could be more like canuckland we'll start threatening preachers for reading the wrong passages out of the bible or newspaper columunist because the facts in the articles upset certian groups of people.
 
Here is how I should have phrased the question.


Why do you need more than 2-3 guns? Do you have them for hunting, personal protection, or just for the heck of owning them. I personally don't have any guns because I don't have any need for one.

This does not make me girly to not own 10 guns. Reading all the replies you seem to own them for hunting, for the heck of owning them or you collect them.
 
I've came to the realisation that I have got a bunch of guns now. It's not that I am obsessed with guns at all, its just I ended up with all of grandpa's guns now that he has passed away. I was thinking the other day I should probably sell some of my grandfather's guns because I don't have any use for them, and I sadly can't see a need for them anytime soon in the future. I don't have kids yet, and don't want to any time soon, my sister has got kids and one of them has expressed an interest in hunting and is getting bigger now, but everytime he mentions it, my sister is very quick to discourage it. My sister is as anti-gun as they come and views hunting as some sort of sick mental illness, so he will never be allowed to go.
 
Guns can be a good investment. Buy quality and take care of them and many (most) appreciate in value over time. Many of us hunt. We hunt different things. Hunting different animals sometimes requires different types of weapons. Like so many things, I buy the best I can afford. Maybe later I can afford something even better. But I don't usually sell the FIRST gun I bought to make room for #2. I keep handguns around for personal protection. (Both myself and my wife have C&C permit) Depending on where we're at or where we're going, we might carry a small revolver or a bigger auto. Nice to have options.

Gun ownership is a constitutional right and a priviledge. In some ways it's entertainment and in other ways they're part of a lifestyle. At times some folks don't understand why a person would own 27 tractors. Some folks don't understand why anyone would have a case full of guns. Either way, it's a personal choice that I don't need anyone elses blessings or understanding.

I don't expect to change anyones opinion. I don't expect anyone else will change mine. But don't come knocking on my door trying to TAKE my guns or you're definately going to have a problem on YOUR hands.
 
To me, having a variety of guns is like having a good set of wrenches when an adjustable wrench 'will work'. While its true it will work, most of them time, it rarely works as well as having the correct wrench for the job.

For me, the guns and their purpose:

.22 general varmit shooting when I dont want to blast brain and innards all over me (rifle and pistol). I got the pistol when I was a kid to carry with me on the tractor.
.223 coyote, dog, and groundhogs as a rifle to carry with me around the farm. High capacity mag for long range coyote hunting (every 3rd round a tracer). This isnt a want, this is an essential. My cows pay my bills and dogs and coyotes run, kill, and molest my calves.
.270 deer hunting
.50 black powder, deer hunting in b.p. season
20 ga trap and skeet shooting, general small game hunting
12 ga antique, inherited, family heirloom
.32 LR antique, inherited, family heirloom
9mm pistol got for personal protection, gave to my mom for same purpose
.45 personal protection around house, car, vehicle. got before I got a c.c. permit
.32 personal protection concealed carry. I spend a lot of time in very bad urban areas with a lot of high dollar camera equipment and multiple female models. I take my safety and theirs serious.
 
The reason I am so protective of our rights as gauranteed by the constitution is that I have relatives and close friends and neighbors that have fought for those rights and are very protective of those rights.One of them helped liberate a little place in Germany in WWII called Bergen-Belsen concentration camp.He had nightmares about what he saw there till the day he died.Another was at alittle island in the pacific called Tarawa.I grew up listening to their stories and they always told me protect our rights and freedoms or we could end up under a tyrant like Gremany or Japan did.
 
If you think about it there are many things that can be considered dangerous weapons. As to how each item is classified boils down to is use. Since it is close to lunch time when I am typing this post, take for instance say kitchen knives. The only thing separating them from any other dangerous weapon is use. I can either use them to aid in food preparation, or use them to cause damage to people or property. Whether or not an item is a dangerous wepon depends upon what the intended user choses to do with it.
 
Was listening to a talk show a couple month ago, the host was interviewing the Gov. of Montanta, the host asked the Gov how many guns he had, his reply was "More than I need and less than I want" this sentiment would be voiced by most in the community where I live.
 
let me rephrase this comment too since some people don't understand it.

I am from Canada so I am not familiar with the Constitution. Once agian I don't have a need for a gun so why have one. Do you use every last right you have?
 
I look at it like this. Guns dont kill people, people kill people. Its just how its portrayed and what you want to be afraid of.

Examples:

A man walks into a restuarant pulls out a gun and starts shooting. Headlines the next day, Crazed Gunman kills several innocent patrons. Then we listen to proposals of more gun laws, banning guns ect becasue the gun killed those people. Then we want to blame the gun dealer, manufacturers etc.

Now take this scenario: Man walks into restuarant grabs a steak knife out of a patrons hands, and starts stabbing people at will killing several innocent people. Headlines the next day. Deranged mentaly unstable person kills several innocent people. Then we listen to how society should have helped this person. I bet you a dime to a dollar there wouldnt be a word mentioned about banning steak knifes at restuarants.
 
Explanation noted and accepted. (Probably a language usage difference, but obsessed is a VERY negative word over here.)

The love (obsession) for firearms in the rural area of the US goes back to the days when they truly were considered a basic tool for providing food and protection. You have to remember that ours is a very young country by world standards and our very existence was dependent on the willingness of the regular citizen to be willing to use firearms and use them well.

The protection factor has now become more of an individual's family rather than the country. The rural areas have, in recent years, seen a dramatic escalation of the manufacture and usage of Meth. If you have never seen an individual under the influence of this drug, you are awaiting a major education. I have - and I decided then that a large caliber gun was not just a luxury.

I will admit that more than one or two guns is usually more of a hobby than a necessity - and that hobby does contain a increased danger with it. But life is full of danger brought on by the activities we choose to engage in. Fast cars, fast women, alcohol, smoking, etc. The list goes on and on, but part of freedom is making my own choices of danger and the level of risk. Otherwise, we all end up in a padded room with the door locked for our own good.

My 14 yr old granddaughter made an astute observation about the school rules. She noted that practically all of the most restrictive rules were written to try and control about five percent of the worst individuals. She says that the administration just doesn't have the courage to crack down on that five percent, thus the 95 percent have to tolerate a prison control mentality due to that lack of courage. I maintain that our society is headed in that same direction.

I guess in the end, you and I will just have to agree to disagree on our opinions - in a free society, that is not a bad thing.
 
its like this people collect things, women collect cook books do they need what they collect my wife has a few hundred i have tractors five of them i have guns to maybe 9 or 10 point is its not how many guns you have and its not that they kill its the crazy nut who goes postal that is the problem hell if you want to kill someone you dont have to use a gun lot of murders with knives,poison,heck even a pillow can be used to kill someone so if they ever try to take my guns they can %%$& #%%
 
why have more than 3 pair of underwear? you don't wear 'em all at once. Why have more than one child?
Let's face it...the real reason we have STUFF is because we WANT to.
 
I don't totally agree with not letting felons own guns either. What I mean is the guy with the armed robbery charge yes bar him as he is dangerous,now the guy doing joy riding or embezzelment don't make him dangerous just a thief. There are lots of issues where the guy is not necessarily dangerous. And no I'm not a felon or anything of the sort. Just curious what rain this will bring.
 
I agree. It does come down to personal responsibility. My oldest son got his first bb gun at five, his first deer rifle at 8 and shot his first deer last year at the age of 9. He said, "mom, I brought meat home for the table". It was a very proud moment for me.

That said, we take personal responsibility and gun safety VERY seriously in our household. He never target shoots with his rifle without my husband (parrothead) present. His friends are not allowed to come over and shoot his gun, etc. All guns remain locked and or stored away, just as you would with any investment property. He is always strictly supervised. Although, in all actuality, he probably doesn't need to be. He is extremely responsible and very safe.

We have two big deer in our freezer. One my husband shot and the one from my son. Boy, a big ol' pot of venison chili sure does sound good right now! MMMMMM......

On another note - don't think that I believe EVERY child is ready to own a bb gun at 5 and a rifle at 8. My middle son will be 8 next month. He won't be getting a rifle yet.... he's not ready. My youngest son turned 5 this summer and he doesn't own a bb gun yet. He's not ready.

The overwhelming majority of hunters and gun collectors are not irresponsible with them. But, criminals are. They are who we must fear. Not the gun owners. And, if they come near me, or my husband, or my children, they better be ready for a fight.

If guns are "dangerous weapons", then so are tractors. I'm sure if you ran over someone with one of your tractors, you'd kill them, right? It's all about the personal responsibility.

And ----- just to show you how open-minded I am -- I will tell you that I don't think you are "girly" or wear women's underwear or "nnalert" just because you don't own guns.

I understand your perspective, I just don't agree with it.

-- Mrs. Parrothead
 
Long time ago, I had quite a few guns. Just multiplied like rabbits. Friend who was a psychology major came over looked at them and said "who you planning to shoot". This was my free analysis. Don't plan to shoot nobody but if I had to, guess I would. Since then fired few shots in air and over heads, but never AT another human being. Thank God, it could happen. Got rid of lots of them. Always keep a couple. Some were for rabbit, some bird hunting, deer.
 
I've wondered about the overkill also. I own the 4 rifles that were my grandfather's and my dad's But have never seen the need for autos or handguns. My buddy's a Nam vet, and has about 10,000 rounds for his M16, AK, his Glock and carries all the time. He says he's ready, I say he's paranoid. I believe an eye for an eye
 
He will come of age and make his own decision about hunting.Some kids take to hunting some dont.In any case he will decide wether or not he will hunt.I like to see boys and girls trained in firearm saftey early on.
 

Being from Canada you wouldn't understand... I mean you still give honor to and hold ties with the Redcoats. 232 years ago we told them to pack sand and they had a temper tantrum so we kicked their asses...

We in the United States hold as a fundamental belief, as stated in the Declaration of Independence, that every man and woman is, by birthright, endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. Among those are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The US Constitution, specifically the Bill of Rights, places restrictions upon the Government of this country. It spells out pre-existing rights of which the Government is not allowed to interfere (but they do anyway). Among these rights is the 2nd Amendment. Which states...

[i:504729764f]
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."[/i:504729764f]

The fundamental reason for the 2nd Amendment to exist is to ensure that the citizens of this country have the means to defend themselves and to abolish the Government should such a time arise. A time when the Government no longer listens to those who provide it's charter. A time when Government usurps fundamental human rights. It was well spoken of by the creators of our founding documents that citizens of this country have a right and a duty to abolish the Government when grievous atrocities are placed upon the citizen.

It's for this reason that we should and "need" to own acceptable weapons. Unfortunately the right has been eroded to such a point that the Government's police force (US Military, Police, Federal Agencies, etc) has superior firepower compared to the people. The Government has equipped itself with the lastest and greatest in small arms while passing legislation to keep the ordinary citizen from possessing equal arms. The closest "most" of us can get is a semi automatic version of a military weapon. Unless you have a lot of money, time to waste and are willing to put yourself thru Government scrutiny you will not legally possess a fully automatic weapon or destructive device in this country....

Clear it up any?
 
Just about everything has been said. Because of the right to have them, memories/heirlooms, admiration, protection, collectibility (there are guns worth tens and I bet even hundreds of thousands of dollars), because one can have them (goes back to the right to have them). I don't own any myself but don't mind other people owning them when they can do it safely (I don't like the idea of murderers or drunks having them). We have a few folks from the local game club that come out and hunt so we're not against them at all really.
 
Why do you need all those tools or clothes or the freedom to speak your mind or peacefully assemble or travel or anything else? It's a basic right. You don't HAVE to own a gun, but you can if want. It's also none of your business if someone has no gun or 150 guns.
 
(quoted from post at 02:20:14 11/23/08) ... writes the know it all, 2 bit, white trash piece of human garbage.
Click to expand...
at least he didn't go by 'Guest' . if you got some thing to say don't hide from it
 
(quoted from post at 19:56:18 11/28/08)
(quoted from post at 02:20:14 11/23/08) ... writes the know it all, 2 bit, white trash piece of human garbage.
Click to expand...
at least he didn't go by 'Guest' . if you got some thing to say don't hide from it
Click to expand...
A-MEN BROTHER !! OOPS I THINK I USED ANOTHER RIGHT!!!
DUSTIN IL.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

O
Looking for another idea.
2 3
Replies
42
Views
2K
rustred
rustred
W
Massey Ferguson 4253 again
Replies
4
Views
222
WAYNE-N-TEXAS
W
T
Woods 121 Twin Cadet get out of time
Replies
13
Views
483
Troop4Christ
T
T
Ford 3000 Stalling
Replies
12
Views
379
Mike(NEOhio)
M
D
1972 F750 Truck - starter questions
Replies
18
Views
703
Destroked 450
Destroked 450
Tractor Parts Tractor Manuals

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.

Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters
Website Accessibility Policy

Back
Top