Tire Soap

super99 · Nov 17, 2008

I've been working at changing a tire on a 18.4-34 dual. Tire is rotted away. I bought them 4 or 5 years ago, and last spring, the tire cracked and was showing about 5" of tube thru crack, so I let air out and took dual off so I wouldn't pinch the tube. I used the loader bucket and finally got the bead broke loose,got the outside over the rim and got the tube out safely, and am trying to get the inside off to replace with another used tire that I have. What mix of soap to water do you fellers use for tire soap? I mixed some up, but think I have too much water, runs off and dries right out. I know it should be foamy and stay on the bead, but what I made runs off and dries in a few minutes. Having a tell of a hime! I have changed rears before, but it's been several years, and I think I forgot everything I remembered about doing this job. Open to hints or suggestions. Chris

oldrustycars · Nov 17, 2008

I"ve used just the soap, without mixing any water. Slop it up good, and when you"re done, scoop the soap back into the pail. I also use that soap to seat beads.

Patsdeere · Nov 17, 2008

If that tire is junk, why not just cut it off?

thurlow · Nov 17, 2008

Parts house will have some of the stuff that tire places use. If you're a farmer, I'm sure you've got jugs of surfactant sitting around; that's what I've always used.......about 20 or 25% surfactant; it's cheap and works great.

Roy in georgia · Nov 17, 2008

if you have some of the tire wet stuff that shines auto tires I have used that before and it stayed slick for a while

Ed pap · Nov 17, 2008

I have a gallon jug of napa #765-1338 - Ruglyde - rubber lubricant. If I remember it was cheap less than $10. when i have to change a tire like that i call the tire guy and let him do it. I think it is well worth the money
Good luck Ed
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Drill · Nov 17, 2008

I use liquid dish soap, seems to work good.

Brian in Ohio · Nov 17, 2008

Don"t waste your money on "tire soap". Just go to WalMart and buy a couple of big bottles of plain old dish soap. Don"t dilute it in water, just put it on straight from the bottle. Does the same thing, and is much cheaper.

Iowa_tire_guy · Nov 17, 2008

Chris, another cheap alternative is to use cooking oil.

super99 · Nov 18, 2008

Thanks for the suggestions. After reading the posts, I remember having a squirt bottle of dish soap in the shop in the past, wonder where it went? Think I have a bottle of canola oil out there that I can't remember what for, but will try it also. You all have a good day. Chris

El Toro · Nov 18, 2008

I always used dish detergent undeluted as Brian suggested. Hal

Mike M · Nov 18, 2008

A 4-5 YR OLD TIRE ROTTED AWAY ALLREADY.

Boy they sure don't make them like they used to.
Kinda makes me glad I didn't waste money on new tires and scrounged up used ones.

Kentb of SWMO · Nov 18, 2008

Murphy's Oil Soap.

Kent

bruster · Nov 18, 2008

Brian, you're right about your suggestion. Some guys have said to use cooking oil, but it makes an awful mess when you go to clean everything up.

bruster · Nov 18, 2008

I've used all kinds of lube for tires, working as a commercial truck tire repairman. If you don't do this all the time, there is nothing better than cheap dish detergent found at the Dollar Store. Squirt it on, right out of the bottle and just hose it off when you're done. Cooking oil makes too much of a mess, and you'll have soap to wash your hands afterward!

Anonymous-0 · Nov 18, 2008

That ruglyde from napa was like $13 and change for a gallon, applicator was $6 and change. I actually liked it, I wanted to get the Murphy's Rimkote or similar from Gemplers but settled on what was on the shelf locally, the ruglyde, does the job, it does kind of evaporate or dry, so you keep using the applicator and coat it where you need it after the initial application, rim, tire bead etc. I've got soft water so the soap would have made a lot of suds, this ruglyde from napa does the lubricating job, without much of a mess.

PS - after one recent tractor tire dismount and re-mount for a tube and rim repair job, now I'm an expert, NOT..... but I'm glad I did it, good learning experience and a money saver.

johndeereman · Nov 18, 2008

y use a bucket loader i use a handyman jack inside put it against the 3 point arm outside might want to push against the bucket of that other tractor works slicker than hit

super99 · Nov 18, 2008

I said I bought them several years ago, I didn't say they were new. Consignment auction, $10, only bid, should have waited, might have got them for $1.
Tires were old and weatherchecked when I bought them. Used them till the sidewalls gave out. Putting another old weatherchecked tire on in it's place. No more than I use duals, it would be silly to buy a new pair. Chris

Pair-a-dice farm · Nov 18, 2008

Like otheers have said, Just use cheap dish soap. I don't know about cooking oil bit grease or motor oil will cause the tire to rot. It's possible that's what caused the old tire to break.

John M · Nov 18, 2008

Bad tire, why wates time with soap? SAWZALL!! Just pour straight dishsoap, no water.

trucker40 · Nov 18, 2008

On the tire you are taking off squirt it with WD40 if you cant find anything else.Grease gun grease,motor oil,sawzall.On the one you are putting on straight dish soap or even soap powder mixed with a little water or that stuff tire shops use.

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