o/t horse feed

what would be better to plant for horses winter wheat or winter rye? not gonna be much just gonna plant the garden for the winter thought id let the horses clean it off in the spring thanks

Are you sure you want the horses stomping and packing down your garde? The Rye would make a fine crop to plow under in the spring to keep your soil loose and the dry matter always helps.

you best study up on feeding horses. You have to limit the amount of rye you feed horses. not over 15 % of ration.

you have to study up on feeding horses. do not feed rye at more than 15% of total ration

Neither one. Winter oats maybe but not wheat or rye. Wheat if it goes the head will kill a horse. Winter oats at least if it does go to head in the spring will not hurt the horse
Hobby farm

I agree with old, I wouldn't pasture my horses on wheat or rye. If you do, you gotta be real careful and get'em off it before it starts to head out.

(quoted from post at 18:17:32 11/05/08) what would be better to plant for horses winter wheat or winter rye? not gonna be much just gonna plant the garden for the winter thought id let the horses clean it off in the spring thanks

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What will your horses be eating through the winter? Could be a bit of a shock taking them off hay and dumping them right onto so much energy. They'll sure make a mess of the garden too (don't ask). Save yourself and the horses the stress and give them hay until the pasture is ready. My $.02. We have to be extracareful in spring. Our horses are stalled through the winter and put out in spring, if it's not a pregnant mare, we have to use grazing muzzles the first couple of days.


Dave

As to the Horse Feed, I love eating horses, espically when they are cooked just right. But that is probably not what you ment. I would not feed them wheat or rye, however you could let them graze on the young plants without concern.

(quoted from post at 23:46:07 11/05/08) As to the Horse Feed, I love eating horses, espically when they are cooked just right. But that is probably not what you ment. I would not feed them wheat or rye, however you could let them graze on the young plants without concern.

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Slaughter and eating horse is common here. Just has to be labeled and can't be cooked/served from the same stand as other meat.

When I first got here, I was at a fest and went to a stand that sold bratwurst and salami. German for a butcher is "metzger" and the word for horse is pferde. Salami is salami.
The sign read "Pferde Metzger" and underneath was Salami.

Me being the smart guy that I is thought: man, that dudes got a funny name, but his salami looks good.

Got a few sticks and a bratwurst (and of course, a beer) and was enjoying, until a buddy's girlfriend did the ole EEEEW how can you eat that??

That was my inspiration to learn the language :roll: :roll:

Dave

dave2, I spent 3 years in the army 1982-1984. 3rd Armoured Division, Gelnhausen was home, lots of time in Graf. The Army locked me and 3 other guys in large metal container they called a M60A3 main battle tank for what seemed like years. I loved Germany and the German people. Still iffy about how I feel about the US Army. Don't think I ate horse in Germany but I am sure I did in France. Horses are cheap in the US right now because we banned their slaughter. The killer market is gone. It started here in California, and I thought no way will the rest of the country go for this nutty idea, I was wrong. Now old and sick horses are being abondon. It is sad the neglect these animals are subject to. On the 40th anniversery of D Day we went to Normandy. Never saw Regan or Margie Thatcher. But President Regan did show up and place a wreath at some cemetary in Bittsburg that has SS troopers buried there. In honor of that I have been drinking Bittsburger Pils ever sence, when I can find it.

We just bought a mare in MO and will fly her over here. Cheaper and much less headache that buying the same bloodlines here. I saw a couple of horses put down by a vet and it'll never happen on our place. It's against the law to shoot them, so the only respectable and IMO humane way is a butcher.
We had our annual convention of the American Legion in Normandy during the 50th Anniversary. Never saw the President either but it was slick willy so no loss. I ran across my Drill SGT from 10 years before and traded a leather jacket I had just bought to a guy that got me on a Navy ship to see Bob Hope. Those are priceless memories.
Used to be a week long set of ceremonies we did around Veterans Day called Sacred Torch, that took us to several WWI and WWII Cemeteries and monuments in Belgium, France, and Luxemburg. Gotta love the Bitburger beer. I'm in the Infantry area (3rd ID then and 1st ID up until 2006 when they went back to Ft Riley).

As far as horse meat, that was my 1st and last time. If you go to a horse show or competition here, there is always a stand that sells salami etc. Got a German buddy that was on the soap box about how bad it tasted and he'd never eat it etc, etc, etc. I went to get us all a Bratwurst and got his from the horse guy. Everyone ate and enjoyed. He was the first one done and was smacking his lips. I laid the cash register ticket by him and thought he was going to flip. Priceless...........

Dave

Ok, I will ask. How much does it cost to fly a horse from MO to Germany ? Or do you have some buddy that is a loadmaster on a C130 ?

(quoted from post at 08:57:45 11/06/08) Ok, I will ask. How much does it cost to fly a horse from MO to Germany ? Or do you have some buddy that is a loadmaster on a C130 ?

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About $4k. She'll be trucked from MO to Houston for a 30 day quarantine then flown to Luxemburg where we will pick her up and bring her home.

Dave

Neither. Plant buckwheat or winter peas, till it in in the spring for green manure. Gardens and horses are a poor mix, anyhow. Want a super garden? Figure out how big you want your garden, and fence in the area with chicken wire. Fence in an identical area right next to it, with a common boundary. Then put a chicken house next to the boundary, with one chicken door going into each garden area. Next spring, plant your garden in one yard, let the chickens use the other for their outdoor yard. The next year, switch. You'll never have to fertilize again, bug control will be better, etc. And as a bonus, chickens are just over the fence, making it easy to throw excess garden foliage over to them.