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Rob Ratch

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I tried to air up the drive wheels today on the Case 480 I just bought, and have water coming out of the valves on both tires. The valves are on the top of the wheel right now, so I'm thinking this means the whole tire was full of water.

I know calcium chloride is used sometimes, but I've never heard of water, and can't imagine it's good for the rim. I added air to the tire, so if there was only water before, now there's air and water.

Is water in the tires unusual or normal?
 
Calcium Chloride is WORSE than plain water on the rims... but, how sure are you that this isn't Calcium?

You put air in the tire with the valve stem straight up.. a full weighted tire has water just up to the valve stem in the 12 o'clock position.

If you are CERTAIN there is water in the tires, then you might want to drain them if your weather goes below 32 in the winter.
 
First off where do you live. If your where it does not get below freezing much it could be water but remember your tires also have tubes in them so water will only get to the rim it the tube leaks. Also water does not compress so they have to have some air in them or it would ride like it had steel wheels on it. If they are leaking I'll bet its not just water but CACL and you need to replace the valve cores about once every other year. @ bit part and is easy to replace with a one Buck tool
Hobby farm
 
Wouldn't be more than 8 months or so where I live. ;) You muist be in a warm climate, or there really is some CC in there - it's only salt water.

Water or CC isn't bad for the rim, it's only if oxygen gets to it that it starts rusting - either way.

Freezing would be the bad part of water.

Typically tires are filled to the valve stem. Sometimes a tiny bit more. There should be 20-25% air space, you should _not_ have an all liquid tire, that is very hard on the tire.

--->Paul
 
Actually most dealers now use a 30% mixture of methanol. I think c.c. is about a thing of the past. You may be seeing what you think is wate. Tak a small sampel and put in the freezer see what happens. The one fellow is right you should not have the tire completly full shoul be about level with valve stem whn turned on top..
 
do the tires have tubes in them? you can drain a little of the fluid out in a cup and take a look at it. if its cloudy white and kind of oily and smells like salt water , its chloride. if its just water and you live where it doesnt freeze, you should be ok. personally, i run chloride in a number of my working tractors, especially if the tractor has a loader. 5 lbs of calcium per gallon, loaded heavy. keeps the tractor stable, and gives a lot better traction, less tire slippage.
 
Oh, I thought CC was white... This was pretty clear, but it could be CC, I didn't check it more than as it was flowing.

I'm thinking this is a tubeless wheel. It has a steel valve stem fixed on the rim.

How much stability does it add? The machine has a backhoe, I could probably fill that bucket with some ballast if needed.

I want it to be lighter for easier transport. I would guess a 16x24" tire full of calcium chloride would weigh a lot...

Thanks for the info.
 
You could try draining some of the fluid into cup, then put it in the freezer to see if it is CC or water. Figure 500 lbs per tire on a 16.9x24 tire.

The CC is still pretty common around here. It's cheap and all the service shops know how to work with it. I'll be having a pair of my tires reloaded with CC next week. I had them pumped down to change the rubber and they are just going to put the same fluid back into the new tires. I figure the only problem with CC is when a valve stem is allowed to leak... for years... Since the rims lasted the first 40 years with CC, they will probably last another 40 years without trouble.
 
Valve stem rotted right out of the tube without warning on the 2355 last week, 17 years.
I can"t see the sense of inviting the enemy (CC) in then always having to keep an eye on it.
Beet Juice/RimGuard or windshield washer fluid avoids the corrosion problems.
 
Be sure to follow the manual on your tire pressure. Where I worked, a (novice) tire man was airing up what I assume was his first tractor tire and seeing that it was as big as a tractor-trailer tire, he put 90 psi in it. It actually held for about a half hour and fortunately no one was close enough to be injured when it let go but it did leave our ears ringing for awhile. Many rear tractor tires call for somewhere between 14 and 18 psi.
 
Up here in the tundra, can't afford any of the light-weight alcohols, and they are toxic anyhow, sure wouldn't want to use them.

If you have a fresh cut or scrape on your hand, just run a little liquid on it - you'll know if it's CC. :) All it is is salt water - real heavy saltwater.

--->Paul
 
CC is whatever color the water is. If you get a little on you hand, just touch it with your tounge. If it's CC you'll know. Kinda hard to describe the taste, but it's pretty nasty.

As far as the tube issue goes, 99% chance there's a tube in there. The valve stem's are like that on all rear tractor tires, and that way the stem can be replaced if it starts to leak. And if they do start to leak, change the stems as soon as possible or you'll have to replace the rim sooner than later.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
(quoted from post at 03:46:52 08/27/08) CC is whatever color the water is. If you get a little on you hand, just touch it with your tounge. If it's CC you'll know. Kinda hard to describe the taste, but it's pretty nasty.

As far as the tube issue goes, 99% chance there's a tube in there. The valve stem's are like that on all rear tractor tires, and that way the stem can be replaced if it starts to leak. And if they do start to leak, change the stems as soon as possible or you'll have to replace the rim sooner than later.

Donovan from Wisconsin
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The right side is leaking now, and it must be CC, it was some bitter crap when I tasted it...
I guess I'll replace the valve core today...
 
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