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Dave from MN

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I have a low PH feild (5.4), that I am gonna throw lime on after the oats crop is off, this feild really need to be built up. I am debating if I should seed rye in it for the next crop, or seed rye in it for a grren manure. If I do should I plant it earlier this fall so there will be thicker at discing in time in the spring, or am I better off just leaving the rye in for a crop and give the lime some time to work. I really need to add humes to that soil if I can. I recieved $6.75 for my rye yesterday, not bad. How much does green manure help a sandy soil, which crop is the best for green manure?
 
get your lime on as soon as you can. seed your rye this fall, frost seed sweet clover in mid march, cut rye for silage or grain, plow under clover. best of both worlds.

Todd
 
(quoted from post at 05:28:43 08/06/08) I have a low PH feild (5.4), that I am gonna throw lime on after the oats crop is off, this feild really need to be built up. I am debating if I should seed rye in it for the next crop, or seed rye in it for a grren manure. If I do should I plant it earlier this fall so there will be thicker at discing in time in the spring, or am I better off just leaving the rye in for a crop and give the lime some time to work. I really need to add humes to that soil if I can. I recieved $6.75 for my rye yesterday, not bad. How much does green manure help a sandy soil, which crop is the best for green manure?
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And if I want corn on it should i plow this fall or spring.
 
TK sounds like good advice.

Spring plowing & planting corn here in MN is not the best thing to do - it can work, but not every year. You get lumpy dry ground & not enough spring to work that into good seedbed....

May I ask who buys rye around here any more? We used to, but there was a rye mill in my town (burned down) and a big rye buyer that got semis from the Dakotas (sold off to a local coop). Not sure where I could sell it any more in southern MN. Oats & wheat is enough of a hardship to most of the local elevators.

--->Paul
 
Where Dave lives, east of St. Cloud, primary tillage in the spring is pretty common on that lighter soil. Clay is hard to find. Other poster's idea about frost seeding in mid-March would have to be delayed, or done with a helo, going over the snowdrifts. lol.
 
Clear Lake Farmers Elevator. They take alot of it, even contract it.

Clear Lake Farmers Elevator
113 State St SE Clear Lake, MN 55319
320) 743-2265
 
Good idea , This is What I didHERE ,Last fall we took 240 bales of corn stalks off 40 acres ,, Broadcast 1 an 1/2 bu wheat with 100 lbs of 9-23-30-,to acre, Thats aLL I COULD GET , Lime was real good ,, friends and neighbors fussed when ever I ran this wheat down when planting Beans .. but it really was too thin , weather was ideal for good wheat, and I wondered what was best to do ,
The wheat kept the weeds way down until mid july, When I finnally hit the beans with 1st RATE and Round-up ,, That was the only time they were sprayed and They look GREAT ! , I did run some POTASH on this field right after planting bean
 
I plant barley every Fall and plow it under in the spring. I had to mow it off this spring before plowing since it was very tall. You can plant legumes for building up your soil. I plow down a lot of grass clippings since I use them for mulch. This on my garden. Produces well every year. Take a look at my tomatoes under Tomato Canning a few posts above your's. Hal
 
All I have is clay.... ;) Dug the well & it was 130 feet of clay before we got to anything else. I have one sand knoll right behind the house - with tight yellow clay 10-20 feet below it. And a couple pockets of peat ground - with clay under it.

I planted oats in March one year. So, it could happen. Mid April is more likely tho, for sure!

Yea, I see the shriveled corn in those light areas north of Hutch, up to St. Cloud. Hard to see that.

--->Paul
 
With the cost of putting anything in the ground today I'd think you'd want a crop for your work rather than a plowdown...
Can you chop the rye straw back onto the field if you combine the rye? That would give you lots of material to break down.
We've had lots of 'new' land with PH's like that too. Generally start with about 5 tonne of lime in a couple of passes, working it in as we go and then blast 30+ tonne of manure (per acre) if we can. That'll get it built up quick...

Rod
 
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