OT: anybody been busted for trespassing

Kid next door used to play catch in the front yard, always missed the ball and it went over the fence into my yard. So, he thought absolutely nothing of climbing MY fence and helping himself to MY front yard as if it were an extention of his own yard, get what he wanted and climb back over MY fence - even if I was watching. NO RESPECT. Sheriffs Deputy set him straight for me. NO Trespassing means NO!!!

(Me) You don't have to be "tearing the ground up" to be a trespasser!

(Kurt) "The thing is I almost never ride it and on Saturday I thought I would use it for more than 10 minutes and ride across a field, I had no destruction thoughts in my mind as I rode threw, I just saw the sign and thought, Hmmmm, I guess Im trespassing."

(Me) So since you now know that you are a trespasser... Does that mean you are going to obey the law and either get permission before you ever cross the other guys ground (i.e. "NOT YOURS!") again, or are you going to be like most other trespassers, and just figure the owner surely must have been thiinking about someone else... couldn't be you... right??

(Kurt) "Keep in mind that I am 35 years old, old enough to know better I suppose."

(Me) Gee... my boys knew about having permission and respect for property owner's rights when they were 10.

(Kurt) "And meant no harm in my question and have no intentions of using my 4-wheeler for destructive or Illigal purposes."

(Me) I mean no harm or hostility in my responses to you. But you need to think about what you want ot be doing. Do you care about breaking the law? If you do then ask for permission from EVERY property owner before riding on their ground. Courtesy goes a long ways toward civility.

As you can deduce from most of the hostility on this thread toward people that trespass, there is a real problem out there and if you are the one trespassing, you may be on the receiving end of the hostility. If you cross the wrong person and they come after you legally... the fine and jail time may seem a bit "inconvenient" to you! There are many property owners that would not think twice about prosecuting you or any other trespasser to the fullest extent of the law!

"Respect"... that's what it's all about!

Let's see... *tearing a tag off a matress... Your matress, your tag... so what?!?!

*riding a motorized vehicle on someone elses private property (you didn't buy it, you didn't get permission, you don't maintain it, you don't respect the owners "RIGHTS!") that could result in you being fined $1000, plus possible jail time...

Seems that even at the old age of 35, you don't even know how to associate the difference in severity of criminal activity...!

"I dare you," to show that arrogance to the landowner where you are trespassing! I bet he would be glad to show you what the judicial system thinks about the severity of trespassing! Go ahead... show the owner your arrogance! I DARE YOU!

2200 acre fire and four families burned out because of someone who thinks just like you do.

You don't own that land. Just because nobody is watching doesn't make it right. If you look very hard you will find places where it is just fine to right your ATV. Ask the Sheriff's Office.

Sounds like a fair trade, don'tcha think?

Supposedly they are for OFFICIAL USE by people working with the event, so why are they usually driven at break-neck speed by punk kids who do not appear to be doing any offical function, while darting through people walking around to see the sights.

I think the whole *&%$ lot of ATV's should be banned, and that includes snowmobiles and jetskis.

Howcome people would not think of turning a kid loose with their 200 HP 4500 pound car, but think nothing of turning them loose with a snowmobile that weighs 1/5 as much, and has over 1/2 the horsepower? Then they cry when the kid is killed in a 110 MPH snowmobile wreck!

I would say that probably 75% of the time, ATV's of any sort are not used in a safe, legal, or usefull manner. The rest of the time, the *^&# things just exist to endanger, or at least irritate the @#$% out of the rest of us!

I had some punk cutting across my corner field in his car (trying to imitate the "Dukes of Hazard" I suppose) he was rutting my field everytime he crossed it. I put out spiked pieces of metal (not sharp enough to go through a foot or shoe, but sharp enough to go through a tire). This only helped the tire shop with business. The clown was not smart enough to associate the two things. So one day after a slight rain I was looking at the corner of the road that went around the field and noticed that water was standing there. So I went and got my 14' grader-blade and ditched the corner to drain. I realized that the slight ditch might create a bump to the vehicle when the stupid punk crossed it... so I decided to put some "radically" steep sides on the ditch and deepen it a little more... (really drain the corner... hehe :-O ). I cleaned up all traces of the ditching work and tidied the field so that there were no traces of tractor tire prints. The next morning I saw more tracks crossing the field, so I walked the field and analyzed the situation.... the guy must have not noticed the ditch, because he hit it at about 40mph with his car. I am guessing that his teeth were imprinted in the steering wheel!!! I could tell that as the front of the car crossed over the ditch that the muffler clamp had dragged the dirt and then the frontend of the car must have bounced up 2 or 3 feet in the air as the tires contacted the opposite side of the ditch.

Needless to say, that was the very last time that the @%#^$@!# idiot crossed that field! Nothing like a good "country education!" And boy, did he get educated!

I did this because a car was involved, I don't believe I will do it if an ATV is involved... I don't want to kill anyone... I just want to get their attention!

I'm for that as I find where people have come on my place to shoot and all I find are their spent cases they've left behind. I dunno who it is, but they'd better hope I don't catch 'em.

The one that burns me the most is the 13 to 15 year olds from town driving expensive quads.Mom and Dad buy Jr a toy he has no place to ride, what do they tell the Kid go where ya want?? They need a kick in the rear as well as Jr.

The last one I caught, got the fear put to him after he did donuts in my newly planted winter wheat..Then I asked him if it was OK for me to go ride in his yard with my 7120 and duals.

What's your connection?????

--->Paul

Private property rights are very close to me. We have had a lot of problems over the years with trespassers.

In Oregon you don't have to have the land posted. It is the responsibility of the individual to know where they are and whose property they are on.

If ATV's weren't such useful tools for farmers and other businesses (people that actually have a legitimate use for them) then they should be outlawed.

These idiots that think since they have a good job and can afford an expensive toy they can go where they want and do what they want when they get there.

This has got to be the most idiotic post I have seen anywhere.

If it ain't your property and you haven't acquired permission to be there... "YOU ARE TRESPASSING, PUNK!!!!" Posted or not, if it ain't yours... stay the heck off of it!!! I have fought to stop 4-wheelers (and snowmobilers) from running all over property that I am farming. Some punk idiot drove his 4W'er right through a 1/4 mile of standing corn about 3 weeks before harvest. Flattened the corn about 5' wide and 1/4 mile long, and there was no way to pick it up with the combine! {GRRRRR RR!!!!!} If I could have caught the sucker, I'm afraid there would have been almost nothing left to prosecute! I have had people do donuts in freshly planted soybean fields, tear down no trespassing signs to use for campfire fuel at their beer parties (and leave all the trash for me to pick up), chop initials into trees, run over crops with all sorts of vehicles. I got cussed at from mushroom hunters that thought they should be able to hunt mushrooms in my backyard. I've had snowmobilers run all over my property... I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT!!! I sat right in the Sheriff's office and asked him what I could do to stop the antics that these morons were doing to my fields. He said that I could legally hold them till the deputies arrived (if I could catch them), by any means necessary. I asked, "does that include slashing all the tires of the 4W'ers with my hunting knife so that they can't drive off?" He said "whatever it takes!"

Here in rural southern Illinois many folks carry guns in their vehicles, and you are as likely to get shot at... as a way of informing you that you are trespassing!

One incident I had many years ago... I spent 2 days trying to re-ditch a field near my house to get it to drain properly. The next day a nice half inch of rain fell and while my brother and I were admiring the ditch from my front porch... some punka$$ kid came up the road in his 4WD P/U, stopped (he did not see us on the porch) and shifted into 4-Low, and then proceeded to see how well his truck would do in my fresh, muddy field ditch... {GRRRRR!} I ran to my 3/4 ton P/U and chased them down (I found out that it will do 95mph) I finally passed them and forced them to stop (he had tried to outrun me when he saw me flyin' out of the driveway, with gravel flyin'). I walked up to the truck spittin'-n-cussin' and informed the "twit" just what I thought of him... and his parentage!!!! And I screamed at him that if I ever saw him driving down the road by my house again... I would chase him down and do some rather unspeakable things to him!

You ignoramous, thoughtless, punka$$, arrogant, moronic, stupid, @#%!^&*#%@ get caught on my property and I WILL PROSECUTE YA'!!! It is a $1000 fine and a trip to the iron-bar hotel (and I would probably make sure that the vehicle stayed where it was at till the sheriff arrived, by whatever means necessary)! If you want to ride those things, then spend some of that money and pay $2000 per acre (plus annual property taxes) for the dang ground! Otherwise... stay off!!!

It doesn't matter if the farmer is 3 miles away (as you so smugly put it)... And the owner is out of state... SO WHAT!!! You are still a criminal... and it still ISN"T YOUR PROPERTY!!!!! ! Don't go crying around this forum if the farmer ever does find out your name and prosecutes you.... you will win not an ounce of sympathy here! I hope you and all the other crooks get caught AND PROSECUTED to the full extent of the law!

GRRRRR RRRRR RRRRR RRRRR RRRRR!!!!! !

I considered just driving around in his pasture until he caught me and asked me what I was doing, to which I would have responded, "Same thing as you, just being nosey." At any rate, I decided against it.

I opted for another method of getting even instead. I just happened to have an out of town real estate sign that was left after a property sale of a home.

I placed the sign by the guys house, in a kind of porch offset so that he wouldn't see it.

The talk was all over town--speculation as to why they might be leaving, and where they might be moving to, and even how much they would want for their home.

Several days after I had posted the faux "For Sale" sign, they finally found out themselves. It was only when someone called to find out their asking price for their home.

Some 20 years have passed since then, and the guy still doesn't know I did it. Do two wrongs make a right? No, and I wouldn't do it again. It did provide some harmless fun at the time though.

Those two individuals trespassed on your property and apparently in one case comitted theft. You have every right to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

I don't see why you made a point of the fact that they were farmers. It seems to me that you are trying to justify the actions of one group by saying another group acts in the same irresponsible manner.

We are talking individuals here not groups of people.

Last year I finally had to put up a fence to keep the "no rules hunting club" 4 wheelers next door out of my hay field. Made it look like those alien crop whatchamacallits.

How about I come cut some donuts in your backyard some night or maybe tomorrow afternoon while you are taking a nap!
see ya!

Now, in answer to your question, I finally caught the grandson of one of those tresspassers fishing on my hidden little lake, and he had to tresspass to get his boat on the lake. The DNR officer was called and ticketed him. He got a $60 fine and a lot of inconvenience dealing with the authorities.

ATVs and snowmobiles are just another thing to use to annoy your neighbors. Wonder why they're a little cranky when you encounter them?

Dad had the property WELL posted about No hunting/trespassing etc. Well, to make a long story short. One day while playing army with a few of our friends. Me and my brother and a friend were shot at by a couple of hunters who THOUGHT they were shooting something else. We were of course wearing drab colors and blended in with the woods pretty well. None of us got hurt in the incident, but the sound of buckshot flying overhead and bouncing off trees was scary enough. We yelled at the direction of the shot. My brother took off running toward the barns about 1/2 mile away to get dad. A few minutes later, these two guys come walking up with shotguns.. Oh, they were apologetic. Me and my friend proceeded to berate them about how stupid they were that they could have killed one of us. They acted like we were the ones at fault, hiding in the weeds/woods like we were. I told them they should not be on this property anyway. Their comment was they were hunting along the river bank and they were free to do so.

It was then that Dad came driving up on the tractor with my brother. He asked them for their names and where they lived. (Both city folk.) As well as what they were doing. Hunting muskrats.. He then informed the two gentlemen that they were on private property and asked them who gave them permission to be there. They repeated the statement they made to me and my friend about the river bed, etc. Dad informed them that, no that was not the case. They then started to stammer about the neighbor farmer giving them permission. Dad pulled out his cell phone and said, "let's call and see". Boy did these two guys start to back pedal. Dad then asked them to vacate the property immediately. One of them gave dad some lip as he turned to walk away. Dad said nothing.. As soon as they were heading back the direction they had come. Dad called the sheriff's dispatcher on his phone and had them send a cruiser over to where he thought these two had probably parked. We all then got up on the tractor and went back toward the barn all talking about how lucky we had been.

Dad then went and got into his unmarked sheriff's car and went looking for these two. In the meantime. A deputy had located a pick-up parked up on the side of the road by the bridge about 2 miles away. Dad meet him there. They looked over the vehicle through the windows and noticed a few things out of the ordinary. One was an open container of beer, a no no here in this state. The other was what appeared to be drug paraphenalia. When the two guys finally came out of the woods. They recognized dad and he said their jaws just dropped. They also saw his partner there as well. Needless to say, there were many more questions asked and in the end, two people ended up going to jail.

Not for trespassing, but for illegal drugs...lol. I think they both got a year in the slammer. It could have been worse, for everyone.

The moral of the story here is.. Stay off private property.. You do not know who you are dealing with.. Secondly, its posted for a reason. Kids playing, etc.

I put up barbed wire fencing around my cornfields & run cows in them. Perhaps no-tresspassing signs are for _your_ saftey, not a stupid old mean land owner you don't like? Or do you want your head cut off with the wire?

Maybe your ATV scares my cattle?

Maybe my insurance company requires it, because of the unreasonable liability laws we have in this country - if you get hurt in any way, you can sue the landowner & rake in 100,s of thousands of bucks - doesn't really matter what you were doing there.

Maybe with everyone so far away, they've had trouble with vandalism and are just sick of the way they are treated by 'the public'?

Maybe they have some special wildlife or crop situations where these ATV's riding all over their property is ruining something of value to them. Strip or zone tillage and cover crops have become very specialized, you could be costing them 10 bu an acre corn by wrecking their fall work. A few ruts from an ATV trail can start quite a whashout, or compact the soil so crops don't grow, or make a jolt on every round with the tractor.

And even if that valuable is 'only' peace & quiet & peace of mind. It has value to them, and you should be respectful of their rights. If you want to race your ATV around, buy yourself a 100 acres and put up 'no planting' signs and have your fun. No one will mind.

Guess I have a little trouble with the exact wording of your question. Don't know how you meant it, but sounds like you feel you are a god & should have the right to ride your butt anywhere you want, no one should be able to stop you?

There has been a wave of vandals, meth dealers, and theives, not to mention the beer parties & general littering and fence cutting by people the past decade. The problem has multiplied several fold. One of the contributing factors is ATV's and the go-anywhere access it has given bad people who do these things. How is a landowner supposed to select the good from the bad? Gotta keep everyone out, to protect what is yours these days. And NO, it's not just bare cropland. It's liability, it's seedbed protection, it's the enviornmental requirements these days.

Probably reading your message wrong, I'm having a very bad week, but just strikes me as you having the problem, not the rest of the world.

If you owned something of value, you would understand.

--->Paul

If you do any physical damage with that stupid ATV, the possibility of additional penalty is also present.

Next time, get the permission (best in writing) of the owner or you may have to learn the hard way about respecting another's property.

Rod

K-Mo

If you want to be on someone else's property, do the right thing and contact them first. If they say yes, then no problem. If they say no, then at least you know not to go there.

OK-AL