Wind turbines

mjbrown · Oct 14, 2023

Do any of you have wind turbines on your
farms? I mean big ones. An energy
company has signed up some farms in the
area to put up a fair number. They have
approached us. I'm apprehensive. I'd be
interested to hear what experiences others
have had.
Thanks

rustred · Oct 14, 2023

i wouldnt mind to find an old water windmill. but the turbines forget it! i have heard too many complaints and would never want one by me.

redforlife · Oct 14, 2023

If you can get one put on your property, go for it.

The alternative is, you can be as dead set against the project as you want to be, absolutely forbid one of these things being on your property, and your neighbor will put one up. And one of these things will be close to your property for you to enjoy and look at. But it will be on your neighbors property, and they will be the ones getting paid, and you'll get to look at it for free.
If they are going to be that close, and you got to look at them anyways, you might as well have one on your property and be getting paid for it.

I'm close to a wind farm. The closest turbine to me is 2 miles away as the crow flies. It looks like it is alot closer than it is. These things got to be quite aways away before they look like they are quite aways away. So if they are going to be under a mile away, they might as well be right across the road, because that is what it'll seem like. My point being, might as well be on your property versus somebody else's, if they are going to be close by anyways.

rustred · Oct 14, 2023

its not the looks of them its the noise. and cluttering up the land. just like them crazy solar panels,... taking up good farm land. then what happens when they start giving problems. and it looks totally ugly.

moresmoke · Oct 14, 2023

Im with redforlife. While I dont have one on my 5ac lot there are a bunch of them around here. The only people that complain are the ones not getting checks. My understanding is that up here in the north, it is common to get a fixed annual payment, while in some places further south it is common to be paid based on production.
From what I have been around them the noise doesnt bother me.

Leroy · Oct 14, 2023

There is probably a thousand in my area and I have never heard any complaints And I can be close to them and hear nothing.

fastfarmall · Oct 14, 2023

I heard that the landowner has the expense of removing it, including the concrete, so it isn't all profit, what the life expectancy, 30 years at the most ?

Rich'sToys · Oct 14, 2023

(quoted from post at 23:07:48 10/14/23) I heard that the landowner has the expense of removing it, including the concrete, so it isn't all profit, what the life expectancy, 30 years at the most ?

I had heard something similar--that if, for some reason, they decide not to renew your lease, they might take the turbine unit, but all the concrete, etc. is now your baby. And there's a lot of concrete under those things! Also, they usually build a road to get to them.

redforlife · Oct 15, 2023

Then you'll have the ugly to look at, but only on your neighbors property. Your still going to have to look at it if the project is going in, and your neighbor does one. Same deal, even when out of commission. Your neighbor puts one up, and it goes out of commission, and you'll have a lovely veiw of it. The neighbor may no longer be getting money out of it at that point, but did until the juice was squeezed out of it.

Might as well be in on the deal, if you are going to have to look at these things.

MSD · Oct 15, 2023

I had an agreement for one possibly on some land I owned. They paid $1000 for signing the agreement, a $1000 for the easement, and a $1000 each year to hold the easement for 5 years. They renewed it for one year after the 5 ran out for another $1000 so I got a total of $7000. Then they decided to terminate the agreement and I never heard anymore about it till a couple years ago. Some other company decide to go ahead with the project. From my first deal, they would pay $5000 per year for each turbine. If they decided to not put one on my ground they retained the right to cross it with an underground power line. That only paid like $300 or 600 back then. They were responsible for removal and restoring site back to original if they decided to terminate the project. Ii haven't heard what the guys are getting with this new project as I sold my land after the first deal was canceled.

This post was edited by MSD on 10/14/2023 at 10:57 pm.

Chester5731 · Oct 15, 2023

Get a copy of the lease and have a lawyer read it over. The one presented to me had a lot of crap buried in the fine print. Including giving the turbine company permission to take out a lean on your property. I saw run fast and far. Let someone else have the headaches.

john in la · Oct 15, 2023

[b:654c4848f0]The only people that complain are the ones not getting checks[/b:654c4848f0]

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Bruce from Can. · Oct 15, 2023

And that is exactly what I think too. May as well be on your property and you get paid for it, as be right next door and you just get stuck looking at it for free

Geo-TH,In · Oct 15, 2023

About 60 miles north of Terre Haute is a Huge wind farm. The wind farm runs for miles in Indiana.

Take a trip and ask the farmers who have turbines on their farm what they think.

Hundreds of wind turbines. I think the wind turbines are cool to see. Worth the trip.
Meadow Lake Wind Farm

centralilbaler · Oct 15, 2023

We did the same thing! Worse thing about it is, they never take no for an answer! Finally ended up telling them *ell no. Then they came back wanting to run lines across out ground. Same answer!!

Sprint 6 · Oct 15, 2023

I have several customers that have them, and they love them. I love them, too, because they give my customers lots of money to spend with me. While I don't have figures (not my business to ask them, but they would probably tell me), my customers have said they get a monthly stipend, then a production bonus. This is in East Central Indiana. One of my customers told me he makes more from the transmission lines crossing his property than the windmills, as several towers land on his property. You only get paid for the towers, not the overhead line, he was lucky that the towers landed where he owned. I've also got customers in solar projects.

I'll echo others, that project is going somewhere, might as well be you getting paid. My customers did tell me they all had lawyers look over contacts and make adjustments. One customer even mapped his land for them, told them where the windmills could go, and mapped the road system they could put on his property. After a few back and forth meetings, the company did 90% of his requests.

Buckhammer · Oct 15, 2023

This post isnt directed toward the author but is just my thoughts.

Here in mid michigan the going rate for a wind turbine on your property is $1000 per month. If you own enough farm land to support wind turbines and that land hasn't provided you the financial security you have been seeking in years past then I don't see the revenue from wind turbines providing going forward

I live in the country for the scenery and peace and quiet. If i wanted to look at a structure the reaches for the clouds I would move to the city. There is more to life than money.

coonie minnie · Oct 15, 2023

As others have said, if they are going to be all around you, go for it. Otherwise, you will have all the negatives of them being in the neighborhood without any of the $$. My father in law is in that situation... being stubborn just got him removed from the revenue stream, which he could have used. And of course the power company later bought the 40 next door to put a substation on...

If you do sign on, aim to get a contract that doesn't lock up your property in the event the power company doesn't ultimately move forward.

RodinNS · Oct 15, 2023

I don't. But I would ask lots of questions. How much will that effect your taxes? Will you get enough for it to pay the tax increase, the inconvenience of having roads chop up your fields and still make something? Who takes it down in 20 years? Is there a bond to cover the cleanup costs? Best advice is get a lawyer... I know I wouldn't want to be saddled with removing the monstrosity in 20 years after the thing is abandoned through someone's insolvency. Think about that.

Rod

timcasbolt · Oct 15, 2023

(quoted from post at 21:32:42 10/14/23) its not the looks of them its the noise. and cluttering up the land. just like them crazy solar panels,... [b:f159dae67b]taking up good farm land[/b:f159dae67b]. then what happens when they start giving problems. and it looks totally ugly.

f you check into this a little more carefully I believe you will find that they never use "good" farm land for windmills. There are standards that have to be met including a lack of productivity.

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